since he talks to you ask him why he jerks so many people around regardingive spoke to dennis last week matter of fact he is helping with something . he is damn tired of building cues and then hve resellers\lot lizards , and all the other folks buy his work and jack the price two to three times . we talked bout other means means of selling , time will tell but he is and will ,gotta remember pool cue makers arent rich by a long shot
change the way cues are bought thats from him quote/ ne might go mail order who knows , but he is tired of it
(Edit: Searing shaft arrived.)
I have one on the way and it is supposed to arrive Monday.
I will pair it up with my Murray Tucker Sneaky Pete butt.
The collars won’t match…brown butt collar with checkered ring and black shaft collar with a silver ring.
Both makers are in Florida.
I will call this rig a Sneaky Bastard from Florida.
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Thanks for your replyhe is not my best friend or next door neighbor , it was in general convo we spoke , its no secret he stated bout cues being treated like septres
then pool cue . the man is a purist , i mean right down to a grain of sand . i dont speak for Mr Searing or pretend to , i will tell you this every confo
ive had with the man was like liking talking to my to dad. i was treated as well as you on phone , talked a bit then it was over. like i said everytime ive spoke to him its the same man , no big head, no he dont think he is god , etc . he just makes a cue that market pushed to the the top . it sucks half the people on that list wont see one , that list in the high 20ties . im 53 if i got list now and was 100 healthy ,id be around 83 . people who even get on lists need to set down and go thru priorties with their families and think real.
you can find searing cues right now sale . maybe not made to youe exact tolerences. what do you want ? 30 years on list die at 29 year never see cue
buy from someone who sells them now and play that mfer . 30 years ?? please if i met anyone who said they were on a 30 year list for anything . id ask my wife to scoot down 4 chairs .\
think asbout 30 year you go thru school 1 to 12 graduate
1 to 12 graduate
6 more quit . lol / imagine how long school would be roflamao
This is exactly what happened to me.Thanks for your reply
i agree speaking to dennis he seems like a great guy/passionate about what he does
then poof……no communication
i dont understand it
Can I ask, if you remember, what was the cue going to cost you?This is exactly what happened to me.
Almost 20 years ago he and we had a wonderful conversation and I mentioned I wanted a cue made from camatillo which he said was one of his favorite woods to build with. We spoke about the tonal qualities of camatillo and other things. One of those was his loss of his list which had been on a computer that was lost during a hurricane which caused severe flooding. He told me going forward he was going to keep a handwritten list as well as a computer list so this would never happen again. I had been on the list before this incident and when he asked for specifics on my cue I mentioned using camatillo and he remembered me instantly and told me he would reenter me on his list accordingly.
Fast forward many years and I sent him an email asking where I might be on his list. No reply. So I mailed him an envelope with a stamped return addressed envelope with another request for my place on his list. Once again, no reply.. I never contacted him again after that point which has to be ten years ago or so now... I don't think I did anything wrong or insulting to him, like the member said in post #247, POOF, and that was that. At least I had a nice chat with him!!!
We never discussed price. Dennis also said he would not accept a deposit as it was unnecessary. He told me he could sell any cue he ever makes and they all come with a full money back guarantee that you would be happy with it. He said one gal wanted her money back solely because she did not like the look of her cue. He told me he built her another cue and sold the one she returned. So that was his reasoning for not accepting deposits and the money back guarantee..Can I ask, if you remember, what was the cue going to cost you?
He has no list…. He had me fill out a paper with information and a design in 2002 or 3…. lol you see the people who get his cues….. it’s the same people he repeatedly says “ he won’t sell to”. One of the best playing cues on the planet but He’s full of shit
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Potential ?still no excuse for how he treats most potential customers
That's your opinion or opinions .From a cue collector’s perspective, fine. Whatever. Wait 10 years, 30 years, or an indefinite period of time as seems to be the case here, Whatever floats your boat.
From a player’s perspective, anyone who says waiting 20 years for one of his cues is worth it because they are the “best playing cues” available is kidding themselves.
1. What makes the biggest difference to how a cue feels when you hit the cue ball? The tip. Of course, every butt and shaft combination from every maker has a different base set of characteristics, but changing brand of tip and then hardness within a particular series of tip will change the feel of the hit more than any difference in shaft/butt combination.
2. What changes how a cue feels when it rests in your hand? The weight and balance point. This is not a super secret magical formula, and the most popular mass production cues have systems in-built to customize this yourself; weight bolts, butt extensions, joint inserts, in the case of Mezz, joint rings.
3. Low deflection vs traditional: This is purely personal preference, and some people can adjust quickly between the two, others not so much. For me, 20 minutes with a cue is basically enough for me to adjust, not perfectly, but well enough. For others, people who have only ever played with LD for example, switching to a traditional shaft that throws might be impossible. I don’t even know if Searing makes his shafts LD or not (I suspect not, as is the case with any SW cue I’ve used), but it doesn’t even matter.
4. Power transfer: The two biggest factors here are tip and shaft material. The harder the tip, the more power transfer, and in terms of material, carbon is the biggest game changer here. Is it needed? Maybe not. Not saying having more power transfer is better, just that there are the two biggest factors with regards to power to effort ratio in a cue.
I could probably go on, but that covers the most important elements for most people. Does Searing have something in his cues that makes them play better than the above factors determine? Obviously I’m not comparing it to a $100 Player’s cue, though they do play alright. I’m talking about Predator, Mezz, Meucci, whatever widely available brand a large majority of players use, have a good solid joint system, and a decent quality shaft.
I’ve used a couple of SW cues, and from a player’s perspective, there’s no way in hell I’d even consider waiting 10 years for one. It was fine, and if a South West was the cue I’d developed my pool skills with, then maybe I’d throw my name down so I could have a new one that plays in a similar fashion to the cue I’m used to. But in terms of quality of hit, or how it plays? It’s fine. So is my Exceed. So was my Mezz. So is the custom butt I had made in the Philippines.
Searing cues are the “best playing cues available”? Bring your Searing cue over my way and we’ll see how well it plays against my Exceed or even my $100 Players cue, or join the next US Open and see how well it plays against Filler’s Predator or Shaw’s Perri. And how well did John Parris cues “play” against Stephen Hendry’s $50 Riley cue he bought when he was barely a teenager?
His book is closed forever .
He is not even going to come close to delivering half the book now .
Maybe a quarter .
Way way too many people bugged him for cues and he had no heart to turn them away.
And, I am going to speculate, most of the people on the books are cue flippers who can't resist making a buck in selling their new cues .
I didn't condemn them . It is what it is .Never done it, but nothing wrong with cue flippers.
Anybody can be a cue flipper.
Plenty on here.
Once you buy an item, it is yours.
What you do with it after that is nobody’s business.
Once an item becomes that desirable, it is want based upon name recognition only.
The people then buying the item want to parade it around like a lady and her Louis Vuitton purse.
Products of equal quality, with less name recognition, are readily abundant.
I know you didn’t.I didn't condemn them . It is what it is .
And it gives the makers the feel when to raise the price .