anyone else having this problem with LBM ferrules??

BHQ

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get to just about the right size and out pop these grey spots
have two like this, this being the worst

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BHQ said:
get to just about the right size and out pop these grey spots
have two like this, this being the worst

DSCF2787.jpg


I had this problem with the last Ivorine III i had. As long as it's not junk in the LBM, you can seal the ferrule with thin super glue to keep debris out of the pits. You may need to seal the ferulle a few times while sanding to keep it clean.

Are these ferrules the latest stuff from Atlas?

I have some older LBM ferrules, and have not had this problem. I keep hearing the new stuff isn't the same. Going to suck when I run out!
 
Rodney said:
I had this problem with the last Ivorine III i had. As long as it's not junk in the LBM, you can seal the ferrule with thin super glue to keep debris out of the pits. You may need to seal the ferulle a few times while sanding to keep it clean.

I have some older LBM ferrules, and have not had this problem. I keep hearing the new stuff isn't the same. Going to suck when I run out!

Are these ferrules the latest stuff from Atlas? yes, just got a dozen this week. these first two are S***. 10 more problems on the way :rolleyes: i think it's in the lbm. the other one has a straight distinct line right down the middle of ferrule
 
Yes, it's embedded in the ferrule material,,,don't know why, but quality control seems to be lacking everywhere these days.... j :mad:
 
It's fairly common with LBM, sometimes It's pitting that holds sanding dust, in that case the sealing before sanding the tip helps, but sometimes it is in the material, and as far as I know, there's not too much that can be done when that is the case.
 
BHQ said:
solution: white spray paint???? white out??? just kiddin' :eek:
Brent, I have had this issue, and what I have done is actually sand the ferrules with white or tan sand paper, not black paper...Then I use thin super glue to seal it up before I finish it out. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Hope this helps. Chad if your out there, help us cuemakers out!!!
 
billiardbum said:
Brent, I have had this issue, and what I have done is actually sand the ferrules with white or tan sand paper, not black paper...Then I use thin super glue to seal it up before I finish it out. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Hope this helps. Chad if your out there, help us cuemakers out!!!
i'm using norton tan colored sandpaper also. wake up chad!!!! :D sucks that i just bought a dozen of these at $3 something each :rolleyes: i also bought some joe porper ferrules from prathers. have had no problems with those, YET :eek:
 
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BHQ said:
i'm using norton tan colored sandpaper also. wake up chad!!!! :D sucks that i just bought a dozen of these at $3 something each :rolleyes: i also bought some joe proper ferrules from prathers. have had no problems with those, YET :eek:
Huh...Not sure then, I have had good luck with this method, but bought mine about 6 mos. ago.
 
billiardbum said:
Huh...Not sure then, I have had good luck with this method, but bought mine about 6 mos. ago.


That method works for me too, only I just use the grey paper I normally use. My rod stock is older too, atleast year old possibly 2 or more. Not sure without checking My old invoices.
 
BHQ said:
get to just about the right size and out pop these grey spots
have two like this, this being the worst

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I have the same crap on my wifes cue it has the gray crap all over ugley. I think it is ivorene 3. Looks like maybe it time to find a new type of ferrule. Any one no how that titan ferrule is. I tryed the sabre and it sucked IMO.
 
I have a solution to that.
Find the original melamine ferrules. :p :D
Or go with Ivor-X, Saber or Ivorine 4.
I have a few of that melacrap.
I hate to coat it with super glue before final finish b/c we shouldn't deal with that kind of crap.
 
BHQ said:
get to just about the right size and out pop these grey spots
have two like this, this being the worst

DSCF2787.jpg
I have been using the Saber-T ferrules for a while now and I like them a lot. They hit good and stay clean during installation and during play with just reasonable care.

Good Cuemaking,
 
bigpocket said:
I have the same crap on my wifes cue it has the gray crap all over ugley. I think it is ivorene 3. Looks like maybe it time to find a new type of ferrule. Any one no how that titan ferrule is. I tryed the sabre and it sucked IMO.


Titan seems a little soft to me but it looks great and works really easy.
 
tsp&b said:
Titan seems a little soft to me but it looks great and works really easy.

Titan is the same material that has caused the recall of Predator 314-2 and Z-2 shafts. Cracking & Splitting.
 
man, a little more crap in that ferrule and you might as well pass it off as buckhorn. :) in all seriousness, brent, don't feel like the world crapped on you....we've been seeing many cues with LBM ferrules with these kind of problems. maybe atlas can explain what's going on.
 
cueaddicts said:
man, a little more crap in that ferrule and you might as well pass it off as buckhorn. :) in all seriousness, brent, don't feel like the world crapped on you....we've been seeing many cues with LBM ferrules with these kind of problems. maybe atlas can explain what's going on.

It can be a porous material after being cut. Just always assume the worst. It is best to just seal them with a coat of thin super glue right after cutting rather then wait till you have messed up the job and have to do it over again. In the picture I think because he didn't seal the ferrule and sanded it with the tip on, the tip caused all that mess. Seal it every time and you don't worry about it. I would not use a ferrule I didn't like just because it stays clean. It's better to use what you like and learn how to work with the materal.
 
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CrownCityCorey said:
Titan is the same material that has caused the recall of Predator 314-2 and Z-2 shafts. Cracking & Splitting.



I read a thread on here somewhere about that, and the picture I was getting from It, is that It was more of a quality control issue with the machining, and the ferrules were installed offcentered causing a thin or weak spot on side of the ferrule. If that was the situation, then I could see many types of materials having the same issues. I have not ran accross any of these second version shafts with the problem yet, but from what I've read some of them have the problem mentioned, and some don't, even though the ferrules are the same material. I'm not a titan fan on My personal cues, too soft of a ferrule for My taste, but I have not experienced any problems installing them yet. Atleast not with the rod I have in stock, but as we all know too well, that can vary from one batch to another sometimes.:)
 
macguy said:
It can be a porous material after being cut. Just always assume the worst. It is best to just seal them with a coat of thin super glue right after cutting rather then wait till you have messed up the job and have to do it over again. In the picture I think because he didn't seal the ferrule and sanded it with the tip on, the tip caused all that mess. Seal it every time and you don't worry about it. I would not use a ferrule I didn't like just because it stays clean. It's better to use what you like and learn how to work with the materal.
i should show you the other ferrule installed same day. it has distinct greyish line. aprrox. 1/16th inch wide the length of the ferrule. that is not caused by the tip dust. it was there before the tip was put on. do you think it just might possibly be shitty material??? if it's faulty procedure, wouldn't all of them be bad??? i don't have this problem with other ferrules. ivorine 4 is just as porous if not more porous as the LBM's. my solution is, i won't buy lbm's anymore, period. i'll go elsewhere for different ferrules. i've been considering making my own material. i'm going to get some dirt/junk/crud and add some lbm to it. and sell them for 50 cents. exactly what they are worth
 
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