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TX Poolnut

TX Poolnut

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there are only 8 (not 10) qualifiers posted to the IPT site for this weekend? Two of the original 10 for this weekend have magically disappeared. I noticed this has happened a few weeks before as well. Not all of the qualifiers are listed on the IPT page. My initial thought was that they didn't field 2 players, but I dunno. Thoughts?
 
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TX Poolnut said:
there only 8 (not 10) qualifiers posted to the IPT site for this weekend? Two of the original 10 for this weekend have magically disappeared. I noticed this has happened a few weeks before as well. Not all of the qualifiers are listed on the IPT page. My initial thought was that they didn't field 2 players, but I dunno. Thoughts?
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One of them never had a place to play set up and was listed as "to be determined" but I was also surprised that the other one disappeared. I would think that there were either no players enterred (if there was one that person would get an entry) or the poolhall where it was to be played cancelled it.
 
Where is everybody?

Wow, I guess Las Vegas only had 2 players show and qualify already - nice odds. The other locations have very few players - also nice odds.

At the hardtimes in Bellflower the last few of the rest of the best will qualify 2 more. The best of the rest will be down to anyone who has the entry fee - also nice odds.

These Pool players and their backers have "heart" or ...
 
Could be that the nationwide deal they had with Jillian's all pulled out, leaving open spaces to hold qualifiers that they didn't get filled.
 
I imagine next week only players with free entry will sho up. And the following week, even fewer will show up, and then no one will show up and it will be all over for sure.

Three weeks at the most.

Jake
 
I'm sure there are very few who are willing to pay 2 grand to an organization that has yet to pay out from their last event. It's been said by some that pool players may not be the best business minds around, but I think they understand this concept.
I am sad to see this happening. I had very high hopes for the IPT, but those hopes are slipping away.
Steve
 
jjinfla said:
I imagine next week only players with free entry will sho up. And the following week, even fewer will show up, and then no one will show up and it will be all over for sure.

Three weeks at the most.

Jake
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Jake,
At least the IPT is honoring the "free" entry as several are spending traveling money to qualify for "free". Here at the Hardtimes I believe that 2 of the 5 players were free - Oscar and Arturo. The new kid on the block was Gandi Vallle from PI who won - undefeated. A couple of weeks ago at Jillian's in Pasadena, Ronalto Alcano from PI also went undefeated to qualify. So Cal is a launching pad for PI.

They could have entered 2 per tourney and shut out the locals, but Cory, Oscar or Francisco will be the other qualifier tonight.

Yes it looks like Jillians has dropped out of sponsoring qualifiers. Jillians in Pasadena covered 8 tables for the qualifiers with Gorina at a cost $$, but there was little to show for their investment - there were no spectators that would return to play at high rates $$. Then in the early evenings there was the local crowd (happy hour) that because of revenue stopped the tourney at around 6:00PM causing the players to return the next day -Sat..
Today at the Hardtimes, they will finish in one day because there isn't the happy hour crowd - no booze Hardtimes.
 
I've mentioned this issue earlier on another thread but so far got no guide from those in the know,so here are my specific questions......

Question 1.......Can anyone point me to where it says on the IPT site that there will be free entries given as consolation prizes in the current round of qualifiers for The Wynn?

The IPT site had apparently earlier indicated that those usual free entry consolation prizes were available in these 100 planned qualifying events but it seems that this info has "disappeared" from the site content recently (a bit like the US$ 1,000/- advertised entry fee for World Open "disappeared" and miraculously morphed into US$ 1,500/- when it reappeared,eh Jake;) )
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Question 2......Some people in these forums are referring to "free" entrants playing in current qualifying events.Does anyone know for sure first hand (not vague hearsay) that this is happening.......and if affirmative do they know whether the free entry of the player(s) concerned came via a 3-6 finishing position in one of the previous rounds of qualifiers for previous tournaments (NA Open or World Open) or whether the free entry came from a 3-6 finish in a previous qualifier for The Wynn?
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The reason for these questions is that a colleague has told me that a player he sponsored in a recent qualifier for The Wynn and who finished in a position that would normally justify winning a free future entry has told my colleague that he was not given any such prize and that none of the other participants in that particular qualifier were even given any indication that free future entries would be awarded.Obviously we are now a bit confused and would like to know the truth.
 
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I believe there was one scheduled in Shanghai for this weekend that has disapperared. I don't know why but suspect because of non participation. $2000 is very expensive for a Chinese player, especially since they might not be able to get a visa even if they win.

Maybe Colin knows what happened.
 
I thnik Shanghai was replaced with Taipei. But it was surprising only 3 players tried to qualify. Sad...... :(

GADawg said:
I believe there was one scheduled in Shanghai for this weekend that has disapperared. I don't know why but suspect because of non participation. $2000 is very expensive for a Chinese player, especially since they might not be able to get a visa even if they win.

Maybe Colin knows what happened.
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memikey said:
I've mentioned this issue earlier on another thread but so far got no guide from those in the know,so here are my specific questions......

Question 1.......Can anyone point me to where it says on the IPT site that there will be free entries given as consolation prizes in the current round of qualifiers for The Wynn?

The IPT site had apparently earlier indicated that those usual free entry consolation prizes were available in these 100 planned qualifying events but it seems that this info has "disappeared" from the site content recently (a bit like the US$ 1,000/- advertised entry fee for World Open "disappeared" and miraculously morphed into US$ 1,500/- when it reappeared,eh Jake;) )
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Question 2......Some people in these forums are referring to "free" entrants playing in current qualifying events.Does anyone know for sure first hand (not vague hearsay) that this is happening.......and if affirmative do they know whether the free entry of the player(s) concerned came via a 3-6 finishing position in one of the previous rounds of qualifiers for previous tournaments (NA Open or World Open) or whether the free entry came from a 3-6 finish in a previous qualifier for The Wynn?
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The reason for these questions is that a colleague has told me that a player he sponsored in a recent qualifier for The Wynn and who finished in a position that would normally justify winning a free future entry has told my colleague that he was not given any such prize and that none of the other participants in that particular qualifier were even given any indication that free future entries would be awarded.Obviously we are now a bit confused and would like to know the truth.
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Intenational Pool Tour

International Pool Tour News and Updates

The International Pool Tour is about to kick off the 2007 Tour Card Qualification System. Here is your opportunity to secure a spot on the 150 player IPT 2007 Tour! The IPT is hosting qualification tournaments throughout the world starting this Friday! The top two finishers in each of these events will win an entry into the 2007 Tour Card Tournament where the top 50 players will earn a 2007 Tour Card. And, each qualifying player will also win free airfare to the tournament as well as a hotel room. No matter how many players enter each tournament, two players will earn spots in the tournament.

Each tournament will be a Double-Elimination competition with races to ten. The Two players from each tournament who will qualify for the 2007 Tour Card Tournament will be the winner of the winning side and the winner of the losing side of the brackets. Players who place 3rd-6th will receive a free entry to another qualification tournament of their choice. IPT Rules, which can be read on line, govern each tournament. There is very limited space at each event so entries are based on a first-come, first-served basis. Do not miss this chance to play on the IPT tour by failing to register in time. On line registration is the only way to enter these events and the form is on the IPT web site www.internationalpooltour.com. Absolutely no entries will be allowed at the tournament; no money will be accepted at the events. And remember, each qualification round typically has the smallest and weakest tournaments in the first few weeks, so signing up for the early tournaments gives players the best chance to win.

What is a 2007 IPT Tour Card worth? Every 2007 IPT Member is guaranteed a minimum of $100,000!

By visiting www.internationalpooltour.com you can choose to register for one or more qualifying tournaments. Entry fees are $2000, although you can receive a 10% discount by being an IPT Members Club Member. Click here for details on membership. Once you enter on line, you will receive an emailed receipt. Shortly thereafter, you will receive an email which will contain all of the information you will need to know about the venues, dates, times, etc. We hope to see you on the tournament trail! You can also visit www.internationalpooltour.com to see tournament coverage from each of these IPT qualification events.

Here is a list of the first ten tournaments to be held starting Friday; cutoff for entry is Thursday at 4pm (CST).

* TC-01 Champion Billiards- Fredrick, Maryland
* TC-02 Shooter's Billiards- Burnsville, Minnesota
* TC-03 Capone's- Spring Hill, Florida
* TC-04 Hard Times- Bellflower, California
* TC-05 Magoo's- Tulsa, Oklahoma
* TC-06 Wasa Biljard Café- Gavle, Sweden
* TC-07 Billiard Paradies- Pratteln, Switzerland
* TC-08 Riley's- London, United Kingdom
* TC-09 House of Billiards- Weert, Netherlands
* TC-10 Elbow Room- Oslo, Norway

Best regards,

Deno Andrews
Chief Operating Officer
International Pool Tour
 
jasper said:
Intenational Pool Tour

International Pool Tour News and Updates

The International Pool Tour is about to kick off the 2007 Tour Card Qualification System. Here is your opportunity to secure a spot on the 150 player IPT 2007 Tour! The IPT is hosting qualification tournaments throughout the world starting this Friday! The top two finishers in each of these events will win an entry into the 2007 Tour Card Tournament where the top 50 players will earn a 2007 Tour Card. And, each qualifying player will also win free airfare to the tournament as well as a hotel room. No matter how many players enter each tournament, two players will earn spots in the tournament.

Each tournament will be a Double-Elimination competition with races to ten. The Two players from each tournament who will qualify for the 2007 Tour Card Tournament will be the winner of the winning side and the winner of the losing side of the brackets. Players who place 3rd-6th will receive a free entry to another qualification tournament of their choice. IPT Rules, which can be read on line, govern each tournament. There is very limited space at each event so entries are based on a first-come, first-served basis. Do not miss this chance to play on the IPT tour by failing to register in time. On line registration is the only way to enter these events and the form is on the IPT web site www.internationalpooltour.com. Absolutely no entries will be allowed at the tournament; no money will be accepted at the events. And remember, each qualification round typically has the smallest and weakest tournaments in the first few weeks, so signing up for the early tournaments gives players the best chance to win.

What is a 2007 IPT Tour Card worth? Every 2007 IPT Member is guaranteed a minimum of $100,000!

By visiting www.internationalpooltour.com you can choose to register for one or more qualifying tournaments. Entry fees are $2000, although you can receive a 10% discount by being an IPT Members Club Member. Click here for details on membership. Once you enter on line, you will receive an emailed receipt. Shortly thereafter, you will receive an email which will contain all of the information you will need to know about the venues, dates, times, etc. We hope to see you on the tournament trail! You can also visit www.internationalpooltour.com to see tournament coverage from each of these IPT qualification events.

Here is a list of the first ten tournaments to be held starting Friday; cutoff for entry is Thursday at 4pm (CST).

* TC-01 Champion Billiards- Fredrick, Maryland
* TC-02 Shooter's Billiards- Burnsville, Minnesota
* TC-03 Capone's- Spring Hill, Florida
* TC-04 Hard Times- Bellflower, California
* TC-05 Magoo's- Tulsa, Oklahoma
* TC-06 Wasa Biljard Café- Gavle, Sweden
* TC-07 Billiard Paradies- Pratteln, Switzerland
* TC-08 Riley's- London, United Kingdom
* TC-09 House of Billiards- Weert, Netherlands
* TC-10 Elbow Room- Oslo, Norway

Best regards,

Deno Andrews
Chief Operating Officer
International Pool Tour
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As you can see, there is free entries for future qualifiers for players finishing
3rd through 6th in the 100 tour card qualifing tournaments.
 
memikey said:
I've mentioned this issue earlier on another thread but so far got no guide from those in the know,so here are my specific questions......

Question 1.......Can anyone point me to where it says on the IPT site that there will be free entries given as consolation prizes in the current round of qualifiers for The Wynn?

The IPT site had apparently earlier indicated that those usual free entry consolation prizes were available in these 100 planned qualifying events but it seems that this info has "disappeared" from the site content recently (a bit like the US$ 1,000/- advertised entry fee for World Open "disappeared" and miraculously morphed into US$ 1,500/- when it reappeared,eh Jake;) )
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Question 2......Some people in these forums are referring to "free" entrants playing in current qualifying events.Does anyone know for sure first hand (not vague hearsay) that this is happening.......and if affirmative do they know whether the free entry of the player(s) concerned came via a 3-6 finishing position in one of the previous rounds of qualifiers for previous tournaments (NA Open or World Open) or whether the free entry came from a 3-6 finish in a previous qualifier for The Wynn?
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The reason for these questions is that a colleague has told me that a player he sponsored in a recent qualifier for The Wynn and who finished in a position that would normally justify winning a free future entry has told my colleague that he was not given any such prize and that none of the other participants in that particular qualifier were even given any indication that free future entries would be awarded.Obviously we are now a bit confused and would like to know the truth.
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Also, if you go to the IPT website and listen to the the player meeting from the world open tournament you will here Kevin Trudeau confirm that players that finish 3-6 in the 100 tour card qualifers will get free enties into a future
qulifer of their choice.
If your friend finished 3-6 he should have a free entry coming.
If not, here is another problem for the IPT as far the credibillity of their spoken and written words is conerned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
You told Mimikey what he asked

Jasper,
Thanks for presenting the conclusive evidence that many of those that are participating in the qualifiers are excercising their free entry into subsequent qualifiers as did Oscar and Arturo at the Hardtimes in Bellflower.

Congrats to Oscar to qualify after several atempts at much cost - you pulled through after being down to Francisco - many kudos to you and your Dad.
 
jasper said:
Also, if you go to the IPT website and listen to the the player meeting from the world open tournament you will here Kevin Trudeau confirm that players that finish 3-6 in the 100 tour card qualifers will get free enties into a future qiualifier oftheir choice.

With respect......I obviously already know that is what was 'promised' Jasper..... that's part of the point that I'm making i.e. yet another false promise


If your friend finished 3-6 he should have a free entry coming.

Not if the tournament entry details didn't include such prizes and it seems they didn't


If not, here is another problem for the IPT as far the credibillity of their spoken and written words is conerned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly....duuuh !!!!
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Thanks for your answers anyway Jasper.....maybe I didn't explain myself very well .........

My point was and is......IPT said ORIGINALLY in press releases etc and even in ORIGINAL website tournament entry detail pages etc that they would give the usual free future entries for 3-6 place finishers in all the qualifying tournaments for The Wynn....but at some stage they quietly removed that offer and they are not offering those prizes NOW...check out the tournament entry details etc currently on the website.....the wording/press announcement you posted is from several weeks ago.The currently published details of what the prizes actually are seems to be quite different,without announcement of these changes from IPT,similar to how they unilaterally changed the published entry fee for The World Open half way through proceedings.

Unless I am being remarkably stupid (which is definitely possible) in my reading of what is in the IPT site NOW as regards qualification tournament entry and prize details,there are..... NO FREE ENTRIES BEING GIVEN BY IPT TO 3-6 PLACE FINISHERS IN THESE QUALIFIERS FOR THE WYNN.....period.

Would somebody please check the IPT site and tell me whether I am reading this situation right or wrong?

If anyone on this site knows any player who finished let's say 3rd or 4th in a recent qualifier for The Wynn,please ask them if they received a future free entry.I think their answer will be NO but am prepared to be proved wrong,in fact hoping to be proved wrong:(
 
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LAMas said:
Jasper,
Thanks for presenting the conclusive evidence that many of those that are participating in the qualifiers are excercising their free entry into subsequent qualifiers as did Oscar and Arturo at the Hardtimes in Bellflower......
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My understanding regarding "free future entries" won at previous tournaments by finishing 3-6 is that the "free" entry would be to the same value as the original entry e.g. if you entered The NA Open at the $1,000 entry level and finished 3-6 you got a credit of $1,000 against a future entry and if you entered at the $500/- level you got a $500/- credit etc (that would $1,500 and $750/- in The World Open of course).

So are players who are using their free entries won in previous events to enter any of the 100 Wynn qualifiers which are currently being held having to make up the difference to $2,000 themselves?
 
Can't speak for anyone else Jake but:-

1. It is possible for me to discuss something without necessarily being 'worried' about it,except perhaps premature ejaculation or the rising price of beer:)

2. How do you know I haven't already entered qualifiers or haven't got unused freebies or am not a backer of others who have?

If you've got something sensible to input let's hear it:rolleyes:
 
They need to add the money for the qualifiers!

People who have finished 4th in a 1500$ qualifier, needs to add 500 $. (If he is a member of the IPT Membership Club, he will receive a check for the 10% discount, which is 50 $)
 
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