Anyone familar with type of Phenolic?

manwon

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Hello is anyone familiar with type of Phenolic? If so is it good for Joint Collars and Butt Caps. What is this material called, and is it expensive?

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I have seen this material used in cues, didnt notice any difference in play. Didnt like the look after finished at all.
 
cuebird said:
I have seen this material used in cues, didnt notice any difference in play. Didnt like the look after finished at all.
i have used it a few times and you will always see the weave of the canvas, but in some cases it doesn't really look that bad.

i mostly used it on sneakys.

M.C.
 
manwon said:
Hello is anyone familiar with type of Phenolic? If so is it good for Joint Collars and Butt Caps. What is this material called, and is it expensive?

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it's hard as nails, about as hard as ivorine 4
these blocks listed on ebay as "CANVAS BASED GLASS REINFORCED PHENOLIC"
the only problem i had with it, that i know of, was getting finish to stick
solved that problem by ruffing it up with 150 then sealing with epoxy
but i havent used any of it lately
jim lee has (J&D)
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Looks like grade ce in the sheet. Could make some tips from it. If you cut it right. Against the grain. I like the big weave. Nice peice...
 
like everyone said it looks like laminated CE or C grade canvas phenolic.it is basically the same in stength as LE grade or linen base phenolic.the canvas grade takes on a little more moisture and obviously the weave isn't as fine as the linen base.
 
It works fine. It is just a pain to make round parts out of it. The good part is that your joint and butt plate will be same color if you make them out of that block. The weave pattern will be large, but it will still look okay. If you don't mind the extra work and large weave go for it.
 
I like the 'wood grain' type look that it has to it. I think it adds some character to the joints, and buttplates
 
> I actually found a block of this stuff out behind the school where I'm taking machinist classes,while looking for a block of tool steel from what used to be our scrap pile before it was stolen :eek:. It's about 2 1/2' x 2 1/2" x 8". At first,I thought it was a block of wood. I agree,it would take some doing to make round parts out of. The easiest way I can think of would be to cut it into 5/8 squares,and turn it round while using a 4 jaw chuck. Tommy D.
 
Tommy-D said:
> I actually found a block of this stuff out behind the school where I'm taking machinist classes,while looking for a block of tool steel from what used to be our scrap pile before it was stolen :eek:. It's about 2 1/2' x 2 1/2" x 8". At first,I thought it was a block of wood. I agree,it would take some doing to make round parts out of. The easiest way I can think of would be to cut it into 5/8 squares,and turn it round while using a 4 jaw chuck. Tommy D.
Plug drills on a drill press will work. Also after cutting in desired size squares you can use a centering punch and a hand drill with center drill in it will allow you to chuck it up between two centers for turing round.
 
cueman said:
Plug drills on a drill press will work. Also after cutting in desired size squares you can use a centering punch and a hand drill with center drill in it will allow you to chuck it up between two centers for turing round.
I do that and also, I take a dremel with a cutoff wheel, and put 4 'channels' into the end going from corner to corner, so that I can use a 4 prong spur drive and the prongs will set into the phenolic, therefore the piece won't slip if the cutter grabs to much. Outside of that, you only need a good bandsaw, great carbide cutters, and dust collection system
Dave
 
Dave38 said:
I like the 'wood grain' type look that it has to it. I think it adds some character to the joints, and buttplates

esp with nice rosewood. thanks again dave for the brown you sent me. i havent cut it up yes but do you notice and change in color as you get closer to the outside?. i may be able to squeeze 2 butts and 2 joints out of that piece but if there is funky color closer to the outside i will only do 2 joints and 1 butt size
 
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dave sutton said:
esp with nice rosewood. thanks again dave for the brown you sent me. i havent cut it up yes but do you notice and change in color as you get closer to the outside?. i may be able to squeeze 2 butts and 2 joints out of that piece but if there is funky color closer to the outside i will only do 2 joints and 1 butt size
Your welcome Dave, Glad I could help. I haven't done anything with the outer cuttings yet, but will in the next week or so. I may use alot of those for tips and ferrules. need any more, let me know, I have a 3ft 'log' of it.
 
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Be careful to not breath the fine turning dust. Definitely use a dust mask or better yet a good respirator. The damage from fine powder dust doesn't show up immediately but can cause problems down the road. It is a good material if handled properly.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
 
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