Aramith Pro Cup vs Aramith Tournament
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if you ask Aramith, there's no difference.
Super Aramith Pro: They maintain tolerances of plus or minus 1 one-thousandth of an inch. At least half the balls in a set of “Super Pros” will measure exactly 2.250-inches when new. These balls can be identified by their more stylish numeral which, like the Premier, is set in the middle of the stripe. They are also polished to a higher luster than the other sets. This set is commonly used in professional tournaments. Information is on opening page of AZ
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sorry, posted in wrong area
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I'm pretty sure the only difference is the graphics. The Tournament balls have a couple of semi circles around the numbers. I still like the Centennials more.
The Pro Cup balls are a version of the Aramith Super Pro's. The Pro Cup's have a couple of different colors, supposedly better for viewing on TV. Here are a couple of things I posted in the past about the three types of top-quality Aramith balls (Aramith Super Pro balls, Brunswick Centennial balls, and Aramith Tournament balls).
Here's something I posted in 2008:
And here's something I posted recently:
Any one of the three sets mentioned here (four, if you want to view the Pro Cups as different) would provide top-notch service for a long, long time.
Here's something I posted in 2008:
Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls are generally considered to be the finest balls made today. They are both made by the Saluc company in Belgium from the same phenolic resin. I believe they are also made to the same tolerances, with the difference being in the design of the numbers. (The Centennial balls have the well known "dart" design.) The other major difference is price. The Centennials cost considerably more, perhaps because the number design is more expensive to manufacture, perhaps because Brunswick is an expensive middleman.
And here's something I posted recently:
There is a new kid on the block when it comes to top-quality pool balls -- Aramith Tournament balls from the Saluc company of Belgium (same company that makes Super Aramith Pro balls and Brunswick Centennial balls).
Saluc claims that the Aramith Tournament balls are made from a new, fourth generation of Aramith phenolic resin. They call it the Duramith resin formulation and claim enhanced service life (by up to 50%) and reduced table-cloth wear.
It will be interesting to see whether these balls gain a foothold in commercial, residential, and professional tournament use. I'm eager to learn whether professionals like them more or less than the other top balls, or whether they detect any playing difference at all.
If the new resin really is an improvement, it is possible that these balls could ultimately replace the Super Pro's and also become the resin used for a new generation of Centennials. Or, the new line could just fizzle. We'll see.
Saluc claims that the Aramith Tournament balls are made from a new, fourth generation of Aramith phenolic resin. They call it the Duramith resin formulation and claim enhanced service life (by up to 50%) and reduced table-cloth wear.
It will be interesting to see whether these balls gain a foothold in commercial, residential, and professional tournament use. I'm eager to learn whether professionals like them more or less than the other top balls, or whether they detect any playing difference at all.
If the new resin really is an improvement, it is possible that these balls could ultimately replace the Super Pro's and also become the resin used for a new generation of Centennials. Or, the new line could just fizzle. We'll see.
Any one of the three sets mentioned here (four, if you want to view the Pro Cups as different) would provide top-notch service for a long, long time.
I bought the Aramith Super Pro Cup balls about five months ago. The only complaint I have with them is that the measles cue ball appears to smudge with tip chalk marks very easily. Consequently, I'm always wiping the cue ball clean whenever I have ball-in-hand or starting a new game. Just something to be aware of.
Hello all, I have been lurking on the forum for awhile and decided to post for the first time to see if I can get an answer to my question. I am currently deciding between getting a new set of Aramith Pro or Aramith Tournament balls. It is has been six years since this thread was last posted in so I wanted to see if there has been any change in people's points of view between these two sets to help me with my purchasing decision. Thanks.
EDIT, as I wrote this I just noticed the date on the thread LOL, someone bumped up an old thread.
The bellow still applies though.
I have played quite a bit with both, although most don't see it, the Tournament balls take more of a stroke to move around than either the pro cup or the Centennials. In fact, when me and a friend of mine used to play partners for money and he tried to use his Tournament set, the other people did not want to use it because they could not move the cueball around much. Draw shots would end up being stop shots and so on. First time I played with the Tournaments I played what I thought would be a draw shot by a foot or two, and it ended up a stop shot with that set.
The Aramith Tournaments are indeed different and use their latest advance in phenolics - which they call Duramith. Compared to the PRO's, they resist normal impact scuffing from play quite a bit better - and subsequently they clean and polish up easier as well. It's just a more durable phenolic. If you take excellent care of and regularly (lightly) clean your PRO's, you'd probably not realize a difference ---- but if you want a different design and color scheme along with the with very best Aramith puts out, go with the Tournaments. My two cents.
The Tournaments:
VS...The Super Aramith PRO:
You can go direct to their web pages at www.saluc.com and read what they have to say about their entire line.
K.
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The Tournaments:
VS...The Super Aramith PRO:
You can go direct to their web pages at www.saluc.com and read what they have to say about their entire line.
K.
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The black circle cueball that comes with the Tournament set, is not my favourite. Other than that, I quite like them. It's funny, but the cueball feels sort of "dead", compared to the measle ball. I while ago I had some problems jumping the cueball off the table on the 10 ball break, and was worried about doing that at a tournament. However, when I got there, the Tournament ball they used did not bounce as high, and was easier to keep control of, that way and my breaks were better than ever. Unfortunately this deadness also means that the ball acts "heavy". It goes through the object ball more, draws less etc..These are small, subtle differences anyway, and I can't completely rule out that it was caused by the fact that the balls were brand new therefore having a cueball that was heavier than I'm used to. All Aramith balls are high quality and the Tournament balls especially so. They roll laser straight, they keep quite clean and they are nice to look at. I prefer the look of the Centennials, though.
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i feel the same way about them,
tougher to play with i really dont care for them
i much prefer the premier set that costs 100 bucks, for how they play as well as the look
I have the tournaments and promptly sold the Centennials. I believe they are the very best balls available. Cleans easily, sounds nice and thus have zero complaints.
Tournament set plays as though they are heavier, in my experience.
If anyone is moving the cueball around easier with sets other than the Tournaments, then those "other" cue balls must not be matched in weight to the balls being used at that time --- most likely less than the object balls. An accurate scale would tell that tale of course. The tourneys are perfectly matched in weight and play beautifully - in my experience. And I play with 100+ sets of balls throughout the year.
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This has been my experience also. I did weigh the Tournament CB, a measle CB, and a new Cyclop single dot CB and they were all 170 grams on the money.
However, their performance is not the same. I cannot get the hang of the Tournament CB, and I have given it more than a fair amount of time to adjust. It just plays unnaturally. However, it is not due to being heavier than other CBs.
I feel that it is the finish on the ball. Although the Duramith finish is great for reducing wear on the OBs, its design is intended to reduce friction (which also is supposed to cut down on those little white burn marks on the cloth). Since the Duramith finish is also on the Tournament CB, the friction reducing finish makes the ball difficult to draw (the CB doesn't "grip" the cloth properly) and also influences the contact betweeen the CB and OBs adversely.
Aside from that issue, I think the Tournaments are great. Pair them with a measle CB and you have a playing set that is nonpareil.
Love mine, I don't think you'll be disappointed.