Arata's "Grand Olive" Billiards ... St. Louis, MO

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Looking for Stories & Pictures of Arata's Grand Olive Billiards
located in St. Louis, MO circa 1950's - 1970's (approx.) .
There was a Great Italian Deli/Cafe on the ground floor.

All stories and pictures will be greatly appreciated.
 
Looking for Stories & Pictures of Arata's Grand Olive Billiards
located in St. Louis, MO circa 1950's - 1970's (approx.) .
There was a Great Italian Deli/Cafe on the ground floor.

All stories and pictures will be greatly appreciated.

You must be reading my mind! Just today, I was trying to think of the name of this pool hall...Louie Roberts (St Louis Louie) used to play there all the time. I would like to see some pictures also.
 
Looking for Stories & Pictures of Arata's Grand Olive Billiards
located in St. Louis, MO circa 1950's - 1970's (approx.) .
There was a Great Italian Deli/Cafe on the ground floor.

All stories and pictures will be greatly appreciated.


Ask and ye shall receive :-)

Lou Figueroa
 

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The place below Grand - Olive Billiards was called Garavelli's. The Garavelli family was a well-known St. Louis restaurant family and even today there is a Garavelli's restaurant in St. Louis. I played at Grand-Olive a bunch in the 60s and Grand-Olive had what I would call an errand boy named "Sixteen Zwibleman." Supposedly he got the name "Sixteen" because he was a Western Union messenger with badge number 16. He was the world's oldest errand boy -- probably in his 80s. Anyway, if you yelled "Sixteen" he would come to your table and among other things go down to Garavelli's and get you a sandwich or whatever else you wanted. Not sure if he was an employee of Grand-Olive or just hung around for tips.

One night my friend and I were eating at Garavelli's and he found a big copper staple in his hot roast beef sandwich (the kind wholesale butchers use to package up meat). We were thinking we were about to get a free meal out of this discovery and maybe more (free food for a year?? Etc.). My friend called the elderly and gruff waitress over and was about to give his indignant demand for recompense when the waitress snatched the staple out of his hand and disappeared. No free meal.

There was a good player there named "Rotten Mouth" Johnson. Once he was uprbraiding someone about something and said: "You don't know if a basketball is round, square or diagonal. You are a f***ing idiot."

Dear All: Please message your memories of Grand-Olive. Thanks.
 
Back in the early 60's my friend and I use to visit Grand and Olive quite often. Get some balls and shoot some.

Man, what an atmosphere that place had. Loved it. When you walked up the stairs you knew you were walking the steps of many great players.

Gone but never forgotten.

Thanks for the picture Lou.

John.
 
Fabulous room. I played in my only Three-cushion tournament there. Loved it, and loved the food downstairs. We could certainly use places like that today.
The kind of room I would like to play in after I die.

Beard
 
I believe this is a recollection of the poolroom you are referring to. It was certainly at Grand and Olive. In the early ‘70’s, I was at a convention in St. Louis held at a nearby hotel. (Chase Park Plaza?) I decided to go over and see this famous poolroom. The neighborhood had gone downhill, and several buildings in the area had been demolished. The room itself was upstairs. I walked up the steps and went in. The room had, for Goodness’ sake, a TURNSTYLE! I guess at one time it must have been so popular that at some times they charged admission, or at least wanted to keep count of how many people were in the room. The day that I was there, there were only about three elderly people in the room, draped over the counter and talking with one another. I think that shortly after my visit the building was torn down and the space taken over by St. Louis University.

As I was coming out of the room, a panhandler wearing a heavy topcoat, for it was just before January 1, came up to me and asked me if I would give him 25 cents so he could get a drink. I looked at him and said, “You can’t get a drink for 25 cents.” He shrugged his shoulders and said, “Yeah, but if I get 25 cents from you and 25 cents from another two guys, I can get a drink.” I was stunned by the honesty. I dug out a five-dollar bill, with which he could get several drinks, and gave it to him. In those days, when I wasn’t at home, I smoked cigars. I had about five fairly high quality ones in my breast coat pocket. (In those days they weren’t as expensive as they are now.) I asked the panhandler if he liked cigars. He said he did. I gave him three cigars and wished him a Happy New Year. I guess I’m guilty of enabling, but “many have entertained angels unawares.”
 
Thanks for the great story ... I'm certain there are many, many more.

I am starting a new thread about Circus Billiards in San Jose, California ... 1960's-70's
and hope to unearth some interesting stories about that great old pool hall, now deceased.
 
We have the turnstyles that used to be there at the entrance to our billiard parlor. We bought their inventory when they went under in the 70s.
 
We have the turnstyles that used to be there at the entrance to our billiard parlor. We bought their inventory when they went under in the 70s.

All these years of walking thru those turnstyles I never knew that.

I'm coming over this Sunday with my son to play some 1P. When I walk thru this time, I'll give them a little pat and rub.

Thanks for sharing :)

John
 
St. Louis Billards History

My grandfather, Richard "Dick" Philpot, was a die-hard 3-cushion billards player. He LOVED it!! He was born in 1912 and died in 1988. I'm not sure of the names of any of the billard halls where he played but he used to joke when he was headed out the door to play that he was "going to teach class at the billard academy". As a young child, I thought he was serious when he said that. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, I spent a lot of time with him and my grandma, spending the night at their house often. He would always come home late at night, either from the billard hall or from Fairmont Park in Illinois. He loved horse racing too!!!

If anyone out there knew him or anything about him, please share!
 
I touched up Lou's photo a bit for ya......it was hurting my eyes! (too bright for my hangover)

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wow, i just looked up the address and i used to live 4 mins from there. man, that would have been great if it was still around.

however, i just moved and now i'm 8 mins from cue n cushion.

i guess things could be worse.
 
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