Are professionals supposed to call fouls on themselves?
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Disregard of referee's ruling may result in disciplinary action up to and including disqualification from further competition without refund of player's entry fee.
I agree. In an ‘unrefereed‘ match, your opponent is the referee. If he doesn’t pay attention while you are shooting, he is neglecting his obligation and likely doesn’t deserve the benefit of your superior sportsmanship. That being said, continuing to shoot after fouling WOULD be unethical, regardless.
I agree wholeheartedly! But you know as well as I do there are many people with zero integrity. Win by any means is their goal.
And the numbers of integrity lacking people is growing exponentially every year.
I played last week and lost a match because I called a touch foul on myself.
My opponent never saw it, nor did anyone else except this one, solitary guy.
I was obligated to call the foul on myself because where do you draw the line?
That’s how the game is played. There are no gimme’s, mulligans or any do overs.
Yeah, it sucks but you can’t blame anyone except yourself and so it is supposed
to be a bitter, shitty taste you develop. How else do you learn fast not to repeat it?
There are exceptions. BCA and APA rules state if there is a possibility of a foul, the sitting player must call for a stop to the game, and have the shot watched by someone neutral. If this is not done, the call usually goes to the shooter. You'd be surprised how many times the shooter changes their mind about how to shoot the shot after you want it watched.
The catch is sometimes it is impossible to be the referee and to remain in your chair when the other person is shooting. If I am the referee I reserve the right to do anything a referee would do including getting right on top of a very tight shot. Most people rapidly agree to call our own fouls. Don't tell me I am the referee and to sit in a chair though, I don't see any other referee doing that!
Hu
A little off subject, but Sharking is a great example of poor sportsmanship.....
The whole video is good, but I'm referring to time frame 10:55.
The whole video is good, but I'm referring to time frame 10:55.
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Terry Griffiths, 1979 world snooker champ, was awarded a free ball...he disagreed with the ref...he wouldn’t take it.
I "liked" this yesterday but that doesn't seem adequate. You call your fouls for the good of your game. What a great and powerful statement! You start cutting corners because you can get away with it and you introduce weakness into your game. To get in the fire you have to play the game the way it was meant to be played. I would hate to score a seemingly great memory but always remember in the back of my mind, "I won but I did get by with a couple fouls I didn't call on myself." Takes the bloom right off the rose!
"You call them for the good of your game" should be written on a rock somewhere!
Hu
Again, you have to Remember a lot of people do not have a conscience.
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Joe Tucker's American Rotation rules did that:
A player is obligated to call his or her "own fouls," even if the referee or opponent (player who was not shooting) failed to see or call the foul. It is not acceptable to "get by."
It's nice to have a "soft pillow" when you go to sleep at night, isn't it.
While it may not be required, calling fouls yourself gives a better reputation. A pro relies on reputation and popularity for sponsorship. A bad rep could cost you a sponsorship which is worth more than a game or two.
I once fouled and didn't know in a tournament. A bystander who i trust called me out on it and gave up ball in hand. I was playing his gf at the time and he shouldn't have interfered but hey. She then fouled and he called her on it. She argued and he went on to say how i had the integrity to give up ball in hand when it happened to me. She wouldn't give up the bih but i think it rattled her. I won the match and ended up in the money that day, rare for me. So i wont argue karma. it all evens out. Just not usually in the same match.
I once fouled and didn't know in a tournament. A bystander who i trust called me out on it and gave up ball in hand. I was playing his gf at the time and he shouldn't have interfered but hey. She then fouled and he called her on it. She argued and he went on to say how i had the integrity to give up ball in hand when it happened to me. She wouldn't give up the bih but i think it rattled her. I won the match and ended up in the money that day, rare for me. So i wont argue karma. it all evens out. Just not usually in the same match.
If this sport is going to pull itself out of the image of playing in basements it should adopt the same approach as golf professionals and make it mandatory at all levels.