are you kidding me? apa what a joke

[pooltchr]

A friend (that has had plenty of experience with almost all leagues) told me "you play APA for the money.{Vegas nationals $25000} and Valley for the prestige, since it is much harder to win and less or no sandbaging.

I believe your friend was incorrect. You don't play in any league for the money. You play league because you want to play pool, hang out with friends, have a little competition, and maybe, just maybe, make it to the nationals. Our APA league probably has 300 or more teams. If 10 of them make it to Vegas, that means 290 didn't! And those 290 teams get nothing.

For all you money players....if your odds of winning were one in thirty, would you make that game??????????

Steve

 

[justadub]

Pretty simple. Don't like it, don't play. Plenty of people like it, seems to me. Most likely aren't expecting to win any $$$, but to get to play pool each week.

Of course, it's quite fashionable to come on these forums and bash the APA. Make yourself feel better by putting others down. And then start yet ANOTHER thread as to why "pool is dying", yada, yada, yada. Yup, crabbing about the most successful league out there, the one that has a huge member base, that'll help grow the game.

 

[jdxprs]

Pretty simple. Don't like it, don't play. Plenty of people like it, seems to me. Most likely aren't expecting to win any $$$, but to get to play pool each week.

Of course, it's quite fashionable to come on these forums and bash the APA. Make yourself feel better by putting others down. And then start yet ANOTHER thread as to why "pool is dying", yada, yada, yada. Yup, crabbing about the most successful league out there, the one that has a huge member base, that'll help grow the game.

actually, i thought apa membership was going down? perhaps it's only my area but i was under the impression that it was everywhere.

 

[javi2]

What are you complaining about. You got off cheap. In our area it cost each player $8 so that is $40 per week. Then we have to pay the same if we get into the playoffs. My last and final session in the APA I got back a whopping $6 and change. If our team was unlucky enough to qualify for Vegas only 6 out of the 8 players could afford to go because each team gets only $2500 for the trip. This is only $312.50 pp for air, hotel, and etc. Not a good "investment".

It is a joke about winning millions in the league.

WOW, I figured you'd at least get airfare and a room or two for your team. Not so, eh?

 

[justnum]

Classic study: Do you promote the league franchise or host local events?
league franchise: easy to recognize
local hoster: great for regulars

Names easy to identify have the operational capability of larger events this appeals best for organizations consisting of people that are not familiar with each other. If people are familiar with one another than local events are best.

Its the family versus the extended family argument. There is a lot more doubt when newcomers enter into a family environment because of the lack of clear structure.

 

[javi2]

Pretty simple. Don't like it, don't play. Plenty of people like it, seems to me. Most likely aren't expecting to win any $$$, but to get to play pool each week.

Of course, it's quite fashionable to come on these forums and bash the APA. Make yourself feel better by putting others down. And then start yet ANOTHER thread as to why "pool is dying", yada, yada, yada. Yup, crabbing about the most successful league out there, the one that has a huge member base, that'll help grow the game.

Good point. You get to go out and play competitively and that's what it's all about. For some people it's the only game in town. Not sure about the Vegas part or how the money is split up. But your right, APA is more about getting out and playing as opposed to cashing in.

 

[Scott Lee]

That, and believe it or not, it actually does COST something to run a league...that, and IIRC, the league operator is entitled to make some profit. Some may profit more than others, but nobody is keeping even half the money.

So...to the OP...quit your whining. Pay and play or don't play, but quit b*tching about it. The APA is not a money league anyway, and if you thought it was, you have no clue what the APA is about.

Scott Lee ~ tired of all these "bash the APA" threads
www.poolknowledge.com

ok did you also take into account that the league operator does not get to keep all the 6 dollars you pay a night.. some of it goes to travel fund and of course the national office gets a cut

 

[paksat]

lol and this is why i'm at home and not out playing APA right now.. although I should probably be at the pool hall in the local weekly tourney.

It's just a joke to pay 8-10$ a week against that kind of competition for the kind of money you get back.

Like others have said, it's a rec league and that's it and if you're in it for anything else then you shouldn't be in it.

 

[scratchs]

Yeah..What Scott Lee said.

Really if you want to play for money, get envolved in the bigger tourneys in your surrounding area's..an you don't have to win a trip to vegas to play in vegas..
APA has mini mainia there..you just have to have enough matches played to establesh a skill level..10 matches I think..in my area our LO wants 20..just fly down an play.
Yes you will be paying for every thing your self..but there ton of tourneys..or just down
The street aways there are big tables for serious money..all you have to do is ask.
Woof..woof..

 

[pooltchr]

It's just a joke to pay 8-10$ a week against that kind of competition for the kind of money you get back.

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That's where you are missing the point. $8 a week is nothing. We have rooms in town that charge that much for an hour of table time, and when the hour is up, they don't pay you for playing!

Where does the APA ever promise you will make money playing in their league?????????????


Steve

 

[poolplayer2093]

alright me and a friend of mine joined apa for the first time playing for a friend that owns a bar niether of us had played before for a whole session because we are not league players we are money/tourney players so anyways we joined to help a friend out and to maybe make it to vegas so we played apa summer league and won it with 7 teams at 8 weeks long what did we win a whopping $48 lol i called my captian and said are u serious and this was not per team player it was for the whole team do the math 7 teams at $30 a team per week times 8 weeks it comes to $1680 so ur tellin me i dont even get to break even? i spend atleast $15 a week on league dues drinks and gas and the league operator gets to make $1200+ WOW u have to be kidding me how do people play leagues for life? any funny storys or comments on this please post

my old team took 3rd and we got 160 each. i took 5th highest shooter and i got 80 for that. 15 dollars to get in the league and 5-7 dollars a night for play i think it turned out good. i had a lot of fun and made a little cash and covered my fees

 

[poolcuemaster]

We must have it made here in the CharlottemetroAPA as they send 13 8ball and 4 9ball teams atleast to Vegas every year, and the last time my 9ball team went in 2001 we got $8000 as a team of 7 players for travel money.--Leonard

 

[smoooothstroke]

allright

allrightanAPAthread

 

[poke&hope]

Apa

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[onepocketron]

I play league, and it is for fun. If you want to make money, gamble or play the big tourneys. My team has been together for the better part of 10 years. We want to win, and be competitive, but mainly we get together and have a lot of fun. We also play for Vegas as we always have a blast getting together there. It ain't about the money, but more about friends and having fun.

 

[jrt30004]

alright me and a friend of mine joined apa for the first time playing for a friend that owns a bar niether of us had played before for a whole session because we are not league players we are money/tourney players so anyways we joined to help a friend out and to maybe make it to vegas so we played apa summer league and won it with 7 teams at 8 weeks long what did we win a whopping $48 lol i called my captian and said are u serious and this was not per team player it was for the whole team do the math 7 teams at $30 a team per week times 8 weeks it comes to $1680 so ur tellin me i dont even get to break even? i spend atleast $15 a week on league dues drinks and gas and the league operator gets to make $1200+ WOW u have to be kidding me how do people play leagues for life? any funny storys or comments on this please post

o.k. i hate having to defend the apa but i'm calling bullshot on your whole story. first i've played apa off and on since 1994 (94 to 96 and 07 to today) and they don't run 8 week sessions. they run everything based on three sessions a year, spring, summer and fall. and they try to divide them up evenly with 13 to 15 weeks a session. i have never heard of a whole team receiving 48 dollars total. ever. in our qualifier cups here in atlanta the top 8 ball team gets around a grand maybe a little more / little less. 9 ball is less money because there are less teams. the lowest amount won is for, i believe 4th to 8th place which gets 100 bucks for the team. granted this money is in no way equal to what's payed in in fact most of it is recouped by the l.o. by the fact that every team that participates has to pony up 35 bucks to play in the f*ckin thing. but no one gets 48 dollars for the whole team. and that's the qualifier cup if you win the city cup and go to vegas you get more. next we have the fact that first you say it's the first time you've joined and then you immediately say you've never played a whole session. which one chico? look i undestand most of the people on this site hate the apa and that's fine. i am not all cosumed by it's greatness. but for 30 bucks a year and 27 bucks a week ( i play on 1 8ball and 2 9ball teams) i play roughly at least 12 hours of pool a week - and yes that's actual table time, the places we play give the tables out an hour early (three hours early on sunday) and we get to play until close when league is over - not bad. the two places i play have gold crown tables - one is 9 footers and one 8 footers, so we aren't playing on shit tables either. pool around here is ten bucks an hour so i would pay at least 120 dollars a week to pay for table time if not for the apa. and yes i have to deal with the occasional asswipe who has no idea how to play and it takes forever and it sucks but here in atlanta we have way more people who can shoot - yes even in the apa - than who are f*cktards holding a cue. so i play on good tables against stiff competition and it's cheap as f*ck. where's the downside? i could give a shit less i haven't gotten to vegas. and if i do win that trip they pick up my hotel (half if i want the room to myself) and a good part of the airfare. on top of the fact we do apa singles tourneys (where i have won about a grand so far) to add cash to your pool to go to vegas. i'm tellin ya it makes sense. if you want to bash the apa fine. rail against the sandbaggers, the 2s and 3s who suck, the fact they do keep more than they share, but don't just post a bunch of illiterate nonsense. come on here and make a coherent argument.

 

[Banks]

Here here, Jrt.

Let me call the other b.s. ... You joined to make money? Because you don't outside of league is what it sounds like, or you'd know already that you wouldn't be making any from league. You and your friend both joined a team to help out? I'm guessing you're both 5s since you want to come off sounding like you're both 7s, because playing those numbers would be more than unlikely.

I just got done playing for almost half of the 6 hours I spent in the bar, even paying quarters would cost more than the $7 I spent on league.

I don't get squat for Top Gun or any of that, but hanging out with friends, playing different people, open tables and getting joy out of beating the occasional/rare jerk is payment enough.

Singles is great, though. Out of 4 years, 1 trip to Vegas, 2 runner-ups and the other time I finally beat one of our strong Master players. Suck it, whiner.

 

[conetip]

I enjoyed playing in an APA league. Sure it cost money each week, what does not.
I don't smoke, so the few dollars each week for dues, was less than a packet of smokes.
Our team usually did ok and won at the end of the session enough to pay the next session membership or other fees.
I don't have a problem with the operator making money.They generally do a fair bit of back ground organising and in our area did alot to help out the players.
Joining a league to make money only works if you yourself set one up and become an operator.

 

[markpatrick]

Have another drink on the APA

In my APA league we used to get $200 for the team to split for winning a session. The league operator changed that, saying he was going to be sending one more team to vegas each year, or one from each session, not sure which. Now we don't get any money for winning a session, just trophies. I personally don't care. I play to have a good time with friends.

After taking a 15 hiatis, I realized after one session why I do NOT play in the APA and no one should. We finished 2nd in our league, then won our playoff's. So, then the league operator said we had to play in the winter and spring leagues to retain our eligibility to advance and have a chance to go to Vegas.

I SAID screw that. I was done once again wth APA. I joined a MO 8 ball team, we tied for 2nd place and won the playoff's just like my previous team did in the APA, exact SCENARIO.

APA equals $0 in my pocket
Mo 8 wuals $60 in my pocket

Basically same length of session, weekly fees and membership cost.
Difference is APA = $000000000000
Missouri 8 ball = $60 per player/

AND

This weekend we are NOT going to Vegas for some GAFF tournament, we are driving 30 minutes from home for a chance to win $8000 which is $1000 per player>??? Let us REVIEW, Missouri 8 ball, stay in town and win a $1000 per player every 3 or 4 months vs going to VEGAS for the pie in the sky WET DREAM.

Sorry APA soul soilders. This in NOT what Louie Roberts imagined when he started the Busch league. With mother hubbard and terry ballgame bell.

xoxoxo

 

[justadub]

After taking a 15 hiatis, I realized after one session why I do NOT play in the APA and no one should. We finished 2nd in our league, then won our playoff's. So, then the league operator said we had to play in the winter and spring leagues to retain our eligibility to advance and have a chance to go to Vegas.

I SAID screw that. I was done once again wth APA. I joined a MO 8 ball team, we tied for 2nd place and won the playoff's just like my previous team did in the APA, exact SCENARIO.

APA equals $0 in my pocket
Mo 8 wuals $60 in my pocket

Basically same length of session, weekly fees and membership cost.
Difference is APA = $000000000000
Missouri 8 ball = $60 per player/

AND

This weekend we are NOT going to Vegas for some GAFF tournament, we are driving 30 minutes from home for a chance to win $8000 which is $1000 per player>??? Let us REVIEW, Missouri 8 ball, stay in town and win a $1000 per player every 3 or 4 months vs going to VEGAS for the pie in the sky WET DREAM.

Sorry APA soul soilders. This in NOT what Louie Roberts imagined when he started the Busch league. With mother hubbard and terry ballgame bell.

xoxoxo

Let me see if I understand this correctly. You won your league session, and got no money? IF that is the case, there is a problem with your LO. My team won it's session, and split $800, which by my poor math skills is $100 each. Which is better than your MO $60, at this point in the discussion. That is paid whether you decide to go into the next session or not.

So let me see if I understand you. The APA is in BUSINESS to do business, and expects you to stay active in the League for the whole year if you want to get a chance at going to Vegas. And they are wrong for doing that? So in order for you to get your chance at Vegas, you 'd have to play pool each week (a bad thing?) usually for cheaper than a regular night at the hall (a bad thing?) and maybe win some more cash if you won the next session (s) (a bad thing?). Just sounds like more "the APA sucks" bandwagoning.

And BTW, not everybody is in driving distance to your "far superior" MO League. Which I bet would have problems of it's own, were it to get to be as big as APA.

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