Arent you the best if you win a race to 100?
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No. He's the only person with much experience at this length of match and is used to grinding it out in a marathon.
I'm way more impressed with the way Shane takes on all comers at the Derby City 9-ball event. He's won three of them and it takes wins over about 12 players (before two losses) to win the event.
Shane is an awesome player.
I'm way more impressed with the way Shane takes on all comers at the Derby City 9-ball event. He's won three of them and it takes wins over about 12 players (before two losses) to win the event.
Shane is an awesome player.
The skills required to win a race to 100 are different than the skills required to win a race to 5, or 7, or pick a number.
The *likely* conclusion is that SVB has skill near or equal to the very best, and better than the others, *AND* he has the stamina to tap into that skill for a long period of time. Both parts of the "and" are critical to consistently winning long races.
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The very simple answer is no ,, if secretariat had to race a mule up a 5 mile mountin he would lose by miles ,, tournament plsyers condition themselves to the conditions they are playing in ,,obviously that's not racesc to 100 unless you SVB
A great players skill should be like dish TV ,, on demand. ,
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A great players skill should be like dish TV ,, on demand. ,
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Best if you win a race to 100?
If this is true then Earl Strickland is better than SVB. Earl beat SVB in a race to 100 playing on a 10' foot table where shot making was at its toughest.
If this is true then Earl Strickland is better than SVB. Earl beat SVB in a race to 100 playing on a 10' foot table where shot making was at its toughest.
I see a race to 100 as a marathon. And as such, the player with the better mental and physical fitness comes through the majority of the time. The player with the most skill should win a match of any real length whether its a race to 8 or a race to 800. With the very long races traditional skill as we know it kind of takes a back seat in my book. And other, less recognised skills shine through like determination, mental strength, physical fitness.
if you win a race to 100 100-99 what would that prove ? so all depends on the score i think
I think there are different aspects to each game that make a difference.
The mental game has to be tighter on a short race imo (excluding focus). When you know you cant make a mistake the pressure is on every shot. When you know the mistakes have more of an effect they are harder to let go of when you do make one. Shane is very strong in the mental game but if there is one area where I had to say he might not be as good as someone else this would be it.
Put him in a long race where he is confident in being able to put together more packages and he is deadly. If he get's his break working then no one likes it.
The mental game has to be tighter on a short race imo (excluding focus). When you know you cant make a mistake the pressure is on every shot. When you know the mistakes have more of an effect they are harder to let go of when you do make one. Shane is very strong in the mental game but if there is one area where I had to say he might not be as good as someone else this would be it.
Put him in a long race where he is confident in being able to put together more packages and he is deadly. If he get's his break working then no one likes it.
All good responses. What I'm taking away from it so far is if you beat all comers in a race to 100 you're the best at racing to 100.
About sums it up.
We can now close the thread. Problem solved.
More likely, come back in a week and it will be a ten pager..
I love the Race Horse vs Mule analogy - perfect!
The so called race to 100 played is not really a race to 100 when they are played over a few days- commonly they are played in 3 days so each day will be race to 30 +race to 35+ race to 35. Each time they stop playing to go to sleep, it is considered 1 set. Next day they play it like a new set. So effectively race to 100 is like 3 sets of races to 30 to 35
That is like them playing some long sets in some tourney over 3 days. eg. the Bartram v Henessee race to 80 is actually 2 sets of race to 40 cos they play a race to 40 each day
Unless they player non stop with only small breaks or meal breaks in between that can only be considered a true race to 100. Assuming average 6 mins per rack that can takes anything from 10 hrs to 20 hrs without any sleep.
So the concept of race to 100 or race to 1000 is meaningless unless they play without any sleep. Each time they stop to sleep that is one set that is over
That is like them playing some long sets in some tourney over 3 days. eg. the Bartram v Henessee race to 80 is actually 2 sets of race to 40 cos they play a race to 40 each day
Unless they player non stop with only small breaks or meal breaks in between that can only be considered a true race to 100. Assuming average 6 mins per rack that can takes anything from 10 hrs to 20 hrs without any sleep.
So the concept of race to 100 or race to 1000 is meaningless unless they play without any sleep. Each time they stop to sleep that is one set that is over
The best what ????????????
You can't really go by that match, eveyone was saying it was a gaffe table setup just for Earl to play on.
Plus SVB constantly beats players in long races, not that one time against that one guy on that one table.
Shane is very good because he also beats people in all sorts of situations, he won the US Open 3 times in a row, 4 times overall, finishes top in anything he's in and is one of the very few US players to play the Asians in their home turf.
SVB is one of the best players in the world. I was only making a point that winning a race to 100 doesn't make you the best.
I do think that SVB played Earl again on a 10' Diamond table Earl could win again. Earl is one of the best shot makers ever to play the game and this comes out on a 10' table.
In his two matches (W, L) in last year's DCC Bigfoot (10-footer) event, Earl shot Accu-Stats TPA's of .798 and .846.
In his four matches (W, W, W, W) in the same event, SVB shot .890, .875, .862, and .908.
OMG zzzzzzz this nonsense again
plain and simply NO
is alex the best since he beat svb 100 and frost long ahead one pocket race??
or is darren the best since he has won more in 7 years of playing the game than the majority of others?