Arent you the best if you win a race to 100?

(((Satori))) said:
And Daz did too!
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They both were outstanding . Players are so streaky that it just depends on who is "on" at that particular time. It will seem that a player is unbeatable and then the next time you see them they're just not as perfect. I think it's just the human factor that decides who is great from one week to the next. The match between RM and JS came down to 5 games out of 45 played. It seems to me when score lines are that close it tells us nothing other than who was ahead when we got to 25 but it's like that in any sport. The Super Bowl came down to a lucky catch by the Seahawks and then a small error by the Seahawks. . It was a coin toss
 
peteypooldude said:
They both were outstanding . Players are so streaky that it just depends on who is "on" at that particular time. It will seem that a player is unbeatable and then the next time you see them they're just not as perfect. I think it's just the human factor that decides who is great from one week to the next. The match between RM and JS came down to 5 games out of 45 played. It seems to me when score lines are that close it tells us nothing other than who was ahead when we got to 25 but it's like that in any sport. The Super Bowl came down to a lucky catch by the Seahawks and then a small error by the Seahawks. . It was a coin toss
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Funny, I never hear this when Shane wins.


P.S. "9 in a row!"
 
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I think that short races like 5, 7, or 13 show how players can perform under pressure. They don't have time to get into full stroke or get used to the table. Time is of the essence. Especially if it is televised or for the finals. One or two rolls can be difficult to out run.

On the other hand, long races a player is not faced with a must perform shot unless it is extremely close at the end. So the players can relax and they get a feel for the table and the environment. Especially table speed and the break. And players who break well can string together racks really fast. These 'rackrunners' are difficult to beat. They simply out run their opponent. And SVB is the best at this right now.

And anyone who thinks Shane is only player that has done this, only watches streams or youtube. Twenty-four plus hour matches have been a time-honored tradition of pool gambling for decades. It has just been done in dark, smoke filled 24 hour pool halls.
 
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00john said:
SVB wins longer races. Doesnt that mean he posesses the most skill?
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I would strongly agree with your statement. Some of the very people disagreeing with that statement may be ones who say the stronger player should win a long race which is the same thing that the majority of pool players say. You cant have it both ways, saying a short race can be won be a lesser player then saying a long race does not favor the better player.:confused:
 
9 in a row!

For those that dont know what that is... that is the number of matches in a row that Darren has beaten Shane recently. 9 straight!



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TWOFORPOOL said:
SVB is one of the best players in the world. I was only making a point that winning a race to 100 doesn't make you the best.

I do think that SVB played Earl again on a 10' Diamond table Earl could win again. Earl is one of the best shot makers ever to play the game and this comes out on a 10' table.
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In the big foot event held in Tunica, Earl beat Shane 15-14...but when Earl played Landon Shuffett, he lost 15-5....so what happened to Earls 10' skills in that match? Earl stands no chance of beating Shane on a Diamond 10' table in a race to 100...not a chance in hell...LOL
 
(((Satori))) said:
9 in a row!

For those that dont know what that is... that is the number of matches in a row that Darren has beaten Shane recently. 9 straight!



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Just wondering, how many times has Shane double dipped Daz in the Rum Runners tournament in Vegas, he's won it 7 out of 9 times now, and double dipped Daz more than once....LOL and beat Daz in a race to 100...pretty bad I might add!
 
TWOFORPOOL said:
If this is true then Earl Strickland is better than SVB. Earl beat SVB in a race to 100 playing on a 10' foot table where shot making was at its toughest.
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That was a gaff game on a gaff table... Shane beat Earl in a race to 100, more decidedly as well, on a normal table.
 
Icon of Sin said:
That was a gaff game on a gaff table... Shane beat Earl in a race to 100, more decidedly as well, on a normal table.
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Why was it a gaff game? I see a lot of excuses made about that table, and clearly it was far from perfect and clearly Earl was more used to playing on it, but it definitely comes off as sour grapes when you see people trying their hardest to discredit that win.

I don't think there should be any debate about who the better player is out of SVB and Earl, but it doesn't mean we need to brush over the beating Earl put on SVB in that match, gaff table or not.
 
SakuJack said:
Why was it a gaff game? I see a lot of excuses made about that table, and clearly it was far from perfect and clearly Earl was more used to playing on it, but it definitely comes off as sour grapes when you see people trying their hardest to discredit that win.

I don't think there should be any debate about who the better player is out of SVB and Earl, but it doesn't mean we need to brush over the beating Earl put on SVB in that match, gaff table or not.
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The simple answer is people who love Shane will find an excuse for any time that Shane loses. The races are long enough if Shane wins but they are not long enough if he loses. He deals poorly with jet lag but players coming here from overseas and losing just means they are inferior players. The list goes on and on.

Ko Pin Yi beats him in a race to 21 and then everyone spouts off saying the race isn't long enough. Give other players some credit.

Shane has played more races to 100 than most other players combined. He simply has more experience. Of course he will excel in that format whereas others may be out of their comfort zone.
 
SakuJack said:
Why was it a gaff game? I see a lot of excuses made about that table, and clearly it was far from perfect and clearly Earl was more used to playing on it, but it definitely comes off as sour grapes when you see people trying their hardest to discredit that win.

I don't think there should be any debate about who the better player is out of SVB and Earl, but it doesn't mean we need to brush over the beating Earl put on SVB in that match, gaff table or not.
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All that did was prove that Earl was better at playing on junk equipment than Shane is. During Earls career he's played pool on a lot worse equipment than Shane ever has because Shane mostly grew up playing on Diamonds.
 
realkingcobra said:
All that did was prove that Earl was better at playing on junk equipment than Shane is. During Earls career he's played pool on a lot worse equipment than Shane ever has because Shane mostly grew up playing on Diamonds.
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Shane should be able to adjust to different playing conditions as the other elite players have. Nobody complains about the playing conditions or distractions in the Philippines.

You do make some interesting points though. Maybe Shane is the best in the world playing races to 100 on diamond tables. That narrows down his area of expertise quite a bit though.
 
I've played on the table and it really isn't so much a gaff table...

SakuJack said:
Why was it a gaff game? I see a lot of excuses made about that table, and clearly it was far from perfect and clearly Earl was more used to playing on it, but it definitely comes off as sour grapes when you see people trying their hardest to discredit that win.

I don't think there should be any debate about who the better player is out of SVB and Earl, but it doesn't mean we need to brush over the beating Earl put on SVB in that match, gaff table or not.
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That table actually doesn't play bad at all; however, that's Earl's home room. That's his table...

No one expected Shane to beat Donny on his home table rack your own, and he beat the nuts...

To not expect Shane to win on Earl's home table (that IS a differently playing table than really any other table out there even if it's not a gaff table) is not stretching reality. That Shane didn't out run the nuts there is no surprise and doesn't show one way or the other that he is the best.

Jaden
 
SakuJack said:
Why was it a gaff game? I see a lot of excuses made about that table, and clearly it was far from perfect and clearly Earl was more used to playing on it, but it definitely comes off as sour grapes when you see people trying their hardest to discredit that win.

I don't think there should be any debate about who the better player is out of SVB and Earl, but it doesn't mean we need to brush over the beating Earl put on SVB in that match, gaff table or not.
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Because who the hell regularly plays on a 10 foot gold crown that was over 50 years old and rolled off with shimmed pockets and 760 on the bed and 860 on the rails and is heated???

that's whay its a gaff... that's absurd... the only way Earl could be Shane in that long set was to pull that left field crap out of his ass... on top of a metric ton of sharking...
 
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nine_ball6970 said:
Shane should be able to adjust to different playing conditions as the other elite players have. Nobody complains about the playing conditions or distractions in the Philippines.

You do make some interesting points though. Maybe Shane is the best in the world playing races to 100 on diamond tables. That narrows down his area of expertise quite a bit though.
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Yeah if both players are having to adjust in the same time frame maybe...

That was not the case, Earl had MUCH more time to adjust to that table.

Jaden
 
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