Ariel Carmeli vs. Bryan Mordt
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I have shot a few sets with AC cues. I must say that I was impressed with the hit and playability. Also the workmanship was good as well. I heared that AC will bounce his shaft wood off the floor and listen for the tone/pitch. If it doesnt sound correct he will not use that shaft. LOL..............crazy i know. I have not had the chance to play with a BCM cue yet. From what I see his cues look like they are constructed very well. I look forward to playing with a BCM. I dont think you will be disapointed with either of the two cues mentioned. I currenlty have Capone on order and cannot wait until it is finished..........................
I don't think that for the money you can go wrong with either cuemaker. I've hit with more ACs than BCMs, but both guys build solid players cues. Without knowing anything about what your preferences are wrt feel, sound, stiffness, etc., I would suggest that you contact both cuemakers to discuss these very things. They should be able to help you get into something that suites your needs and style and budget (of course). Once you are set on things, make sure get two consistently weighted shafts, that is if you get one with two shafts. Hope this helps.
bells said:
Not really. Many of the old timers would do that, though very few of todays cuemakers have trained their ears to listen for that special tonal quality.
It's the timbre of the timber, and it can tell a CM more about the wood than anything else.
-von
bells said:
Crazy? No. But does he bounce it off the exact same spot everytime. I saw another cuemaker do that and then he moved shop. He had to find a new magic spot on the floor.
I also got a quote from JW Petree...
as far as what i play with now, it is a 2003 joss. i enjoy the stiff hit but i want to find a cue that can produce more feel without going with a soft hit like a McDermott wood2wood etc.
Does this sound like i would like a AC or BCM?
as far as what i play with now, it is a 2003 joss. i enjoy the stiff hit but i want to find a cue that can produce more feel without going with a soft hit like a McDermott wood2wood etc.
Does this sound like i would like a AC or BCM?
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Do you know where Ariel learned that from? Southwest cues!! They do the same thing, call them up and ask them, it's called "tone pitching" if I am not mistaken. From what I understand that type of wood selection is one of the main reasons why Southwest cues hit the way they do, they won't buy wood unless the resonance is to their liking.
Laugh all you want, ignorance is bliss.
Laugh all you want, ignorance is bliss.
Ariel did not learn that from SW.Fart sniffer said:
He used to work at Best Billiards with Kerry Zeiler.
Zeiler bounced his shafts Martin style.
His shafts are matched up by tone as a pair per cue.
Different sounding shafts are matched with the right butts in his system.
Btw, AC cues are thicker than BCM's ( those I have seen ). AC's are 1.275 at the bottom and BMC are like 1.250.
The taper on AC's are more steep.
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The Tads I've seen have dual tapers.PunchOut said:
The forearm has a steep angle but not the handle.
BCM... I have had two bcm's. They play very very well- they have a dual taper ( compound taper) like a southwest, the ones I have owned are actually very fat butted compared to many other cues. Bryan's shaft taper is very stiff with good cue ball movement. He make a players cue and you get alot for the dough. You cant go wrong with either... bryan's finish is the best I have seen.
best of luck
ryan
best of luck
ryan
Bryan Mordt Cues
My Vote is for the BCM cue choice. I've seen both and the workmanship Bryan does is flawless. I'am a dealer and have two outstanding examples of his work. Please look at the cues on my site at www.cuesnthings.com and i'am sure we can work out a deal for you. JP 301-452-3600
My Vote is for the BCM cue choice. I've seen both and the workmanship Bryan does is flawless. I'am a dealer and have two outstanding examples of his work. Please look at the cues on my site at www.cuesnthings.com and i'am sure we can work out a deal for you. JP 301-452-3600
My .02
I agree with Jon, I have owned 3 BCM cues--all were consistent and solid. Workmanship is top notch and he is a wonderful person to deal with as well with respect to custom orders. I sold my buddy one of my BCMs and he has already made back his money on the cue three-fold in the number of tournament cash outs he has taken. Good cues are cues that win, you cant go wrong with Bryan's work!!!
I agree with Jon, I have owned 3 BCM cues--all were consistent and solid. Workmanship is top notch and he is a wonderful person to deal with as well with respect to custom orders. I sold my buddy one of my BCMs and he has already made back his money on the cue three-fold in the number of tournament cash outs he has taken. Good cues are cues that win, you cant go wrong with Bryan's work!!!
Jon P. Nusbaum said:
My vote is with Bryan and BCM Cues all the way! I don't think there's a better value on the market right now than a BCM. Meticulous craftsmanship, excellent materials of construction, best shafts around, and a tough finish are Bryan's trademarks. Can't find a nicer guy to work with either!
Steve
Steve
Bcm
I have only hit with one AC and I did like it although a buddy of mine purchased one and loves it, he just got his second one which was by date was built a few months after his first and he does not like it, hit is very different from the first. I have owned about 5-6 of Bryans cues and all have the same hit and sound to them! The craftsmanship in Bryans cues are excellent!
I have only hit with one AC and I did like it although a buddy of mine purchased one and loves it, he just got his second one which was by date was built a few months after his first and he does not like it, hit is very different from the first. I have owned about 5-6 of Bryans cues and all have the same hit and sound to them! The craftsmanship in Bryans cues are excellent!
I might be buying the cue he has for sale right now, it's a beautiful cue with really nice wood. The other cue with dots and diamonds is also really nice, I am curious to see how they hit.