Artificial intelligence (Google's AI) making up stuff about pool

[straightline]

All the searches are cooked. Public AI is just a front anyway.

Public AI is just a front. All the searches are cooked anyway.

I can't decide on an order.

 

[Skytex]

I’ve done some freelance writing, too, and I’ve seen clients try to cut costs by using AI for content generation. The problem is that AI often lacks the nuance and tone needed for solid business writing. It might save time, but editing and rewriting usually take just as long as writing from scratch.

 

[TTownPool]

Where is Justnum to explain this glitch in the Matrix to us when we need him? Seriously tho, he would try to explain it, and he is missed.

 

[markjames]

bot obituary

 

[mjantti]

 

[mjantti]

AI is a great tool to create many different outputs such as presentations or analysis after you feed it data. You should separate the concept of LLM (large language model) which is able to create coherent text by adding new words based on certain probabilities which include the hallucinating possibilities.

 

[straightline]

Google this:
ai lies

 

[mjantti]

Here's an extravagant custom pool cue made by Google Gemini.

 

[mjantti]

Here's an extravagant custom pool cue made by Google Gemini.

I asked to add a leather grip and a radial pin.

 

[Chopdoc]

Are you surprised? It is a text regurgitator that doesn’t have any actual knowledge or thought process. When accurate data is unavailable or hard to find it makes stuff up that sounds good.

It's a lot more than that, and a lot worse than that.

It lies. It's called hallucinations.

In biomedical research it was proven to not only include false information, but to create completely fake research articles to support what it's saying, the same as the COVID conspiracy theorists, anti vaccinators, and supporters of alternative therapies.

 

[nataddrho]

Most of you guys grew up during the first ever wave of mass media, being streamed into your homes through TV, and you learned to trust it completely. It was a small blip of reliable news and information during the existence of mankind. You should no longer expect it, and I don't share your outrage that things are often wrong on the internet.

 

[Fatboy]

Here's an extravagant custom pool cue made by Google Gemini.
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But does it hit a ton?

 

[Paul_#_]

Here's an extravagant custom pool cue made by Google Gemini.

I like the AI-generated cue stick (first photo copied below).

Whether it can be done or it must be done with decals----Its nice. AI can be creative --- thats not just for people.

Compare the AI cue in first photo with, in order below,

$15,000 McDermott TF-M1A (only one made and its been sold);​

$1,400 McDermott cue G1305 2014 Cue of the year selling then for $1,400;​

$1,500 McDermott M88A (new price in 2008 was $1400);​

$2,000 McDermott G1908 2014 Cue of the Year selling then for $2,000.​

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Buy new old-stock G1305, M88A, or G1908 by picking it up in Midland MI for the 2008 or 2014 prices. See​

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🔵Facebook sale ---80 McDermott cues from friend’s late-father & McDermott dealer — How will this end? 🔵

A Facebook seller is selling about 80 McDermott cues and some others from his friend’s late father who was a McDermott dealer. These appear to be mostly new cues from between 2006 to 2014. Most prices appear to be the sale price originally...

forums.azbilliards.com

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[straightline]

Really not crazy about those.

 

[Paul_#_]

Really not crazy about those.

I pretty much agree with you. Some Schmelkes have a simple elegance that can compete! It makes some difference if you look at the effort the cuemaker does to make the cues. For example, the cuemaker did this to make McDermott's M88A The Diablo

* Birdseye Maple forearm/sleeve​

* Black urethane handle​

* Brass rings​

* i-2 shaft​

* McD QR joint​

* 6 Brass/white urethane points​

* 6 Sets of /white urethane /Brass sleeve inlays​

* Box Elder Burl/Brass/white urethane "Web" no wrap handle​

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Or that the cuemaker did to make the 2014 Cue of the Year G1908:

Birdsey maple forearm/sleeve; ​

Silver, green & index rings; ​

6 sets of abalone, ​

Black urethane & pewter points; ​

12 sets of abalone, bone urethane & black urethane handle inlays; ​

6 sets of abalone, black urethane, & bone urethane sleeve inlays; ​

6 abalone & 12 bone urethane clover inlays; ​

Black urethane no-wrap handle with pewter & bone urethane inlaid rings​

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And it may make a difference if you can get them at eleven-year-old MSRP 2014 prices. Or wait six months and get it half off? Hopefully, no inlay has poppped out due to weird Michigan weather during the last eleven years . . . .​

The G1908;

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[zencues.com]

Current AI's are the digital worlds Meth Heads... never trust them with your stuff.

In ten years? Just remember it's actual people who build them.
Do you really trust your stuff with people you don't know? Should you?
The people building them are telling everyone that we should. I wonder why?

 

[hang-the-9]

I didn't know how carbon fiber was placed in a kielwood shaft by Pure X and asked Google about it. Its' AI responded claiming carbon fiber was wrapped around a maple core. After some effort contacting Pure X associates, it appears that is baloney and that no cue shaft of any company is made that way. AI made it up.

Companies put carbon fiber in a maple shaft by inserting a carbon-fiber tube or rod in the center of a cored-out maple shaft. Some put CF in the shaft at the joint end & foam at cue-tip end (Mezz), at joint and cue-tip ends (Bear & Fury), the whole shaft (McDermott?), and maybe even placing maple wood inside and around the CF tube (McDermott?). All CF/Maple shafts are encased in maple.

I asked Google "How is carbon fiber placed in the Pure X Kielwood FUZE?

AI answered that Pure X wove a sheet of carbon fiber around the wood core and glued them with epoxy. It is not inserted "embedded" in the wood --- CF is wrapped around the wood. It implied, too, the shaft surface was carbon fiber.

Garczer spoke with a player for the company that distributes Pure X's FUZE who told a carbon fiber rod or tube runs down the center of the shaft. I wrote to the company, Cue and Case, and it wrote that the “the carbon fiber runs through the shaft itself”. As far as I know, no cue shaft is made by wrapping carbon fiber around a maple core.

Google's AI and its response cited
____ Cue and Case (nothing about wrapping CF here)
____ Fort Worth Billiards Store (nothing about wrapping CF here)
____ Dragon Plate
____ PFH Private Hochschule Göttinge

No reference cited stated anything about wrapping carbon fiber around any cue anything. Dragon Plate and PFH describe the textile-like process of making the carbon fiber but nothing about pool cues. AI's riff probably came from that......

See more info at thread CF infused Torrified shafts at https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/cf-infused-torrified-shafts.568245/

The AI answer on wrapping CF probably came from the links AI cited below:

How carbon fibre is made

Carbon fibre is made of very thin strands of the element carbon. Characteristics, manufacturing process, application and the future of carbon fibre ⇒ learn more here!

www.pfh.de

DragonPlate | Engineered Carbon Fiber | Made in USA

DragonPlate offers custom carbon fiber shapes and carbon fiber composite products, including tubes, sheets, and plates.

dragonplate.com

DragonPlate | Engineered Carbon Fiber | Made in USA

DragonPlate offers custom carbon fiber shapes and carbon fiber composite products, including tubes, sheets, and plates.

dragonplate.com

This is why the best way to find information is to use a normal web search, read through the references it shows then pick the correct one from that based on the source. I've been reading post on Reddit lately where people basically cut and paste some chatbot reply to the question verbatim instead of answering based on their knowledge.

 

[straightline]

This is why the best way to find information is to use a normal web search, read through the references it shows then pick the correct one from that based on the source. I've been reading post on Reddit lately where people basically cut and paste some chatbot reply to the question verbatim instead of answering based on their knowledge.

The big searches act like meal kit services. I think the greedy money is stuck on AI.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I had asked chatGPT how to draw a cue ball. I asked it many different ways, referencing pool/billiards, etc. Every time it came back with how to "draw" a picture of a ball on a piece of paper. This was about 1 year ago.

About 2 months ago, I asked the new system, DeepSeek "how to draw a cueball" and it got it right the first time.