Artificial intelligence (Google's AI) making up stuff about pool

Black-Balled

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ai will be all you need. ai will control all. ai will run the imperfect world. ai will eliminate bad people. ai will control the world. ai will make you good. ai will control you.
I think it will absolutely continue the dumbing down of the humans, ie...Ie we no longer need to know how to get places when we leave or remember phone numbers.

The doom you predict is at least a generation away!
 

Black-Balled

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Too funny.. I didn't really read what I posted earlier, but you know that table has a stunning gold crown on it that will add a touch of elegance to your shit.
 

Cameron Smith

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I’m not an expert, but I think there is just so little out there for it to source on pool topics that it pulls a mix of bad information and fills in the blanks on its own based on whatever prediction algorithms or some such.

It has the potential to hallucinate on any topic, but I find it’s better when it is pulling from a larger body of information. I’ve used a second program before to spot check ChatGPT
 

Badpenguin

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One of the things I do for a living is freelance business writing, generally web content, HR manuals and critical email and snail mail communications. Lately, some of my clients have been trying AI apps such as Chat GTP and Grammerly to try to save money. Of those, most have abandoned it after one or two projects.

The AI output usually is hideous to anyone with a professional knowledge of English. While the syntax and grammar may be technically correct much of the time, there is very little precision and relevance in the actual content. The examples I've seen tend to make heavy use of vague, flowery and overblown language. They seem to be following the advice of W.C. Fields; If you cant dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.
My employer test ran google's Gemini. Ended up taking more time any time it was used because you have to double/triple check everything. The output _looks_ legit, but it isn't. Of course you can use prompting to have it generate conversational language and so on, but it is still unusable without heavy verification. Images? Forget it. Can't spell words within images it generates, can't draw human hands. But it is highly amusing.
 

Badpenguin

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I think it will absolutely continue the dumbing down of the humans, ie...Ie we no longer need to know how to get places when we leave or remember phone numbers.

The doom you predict is at least a generation away!
Right now, we are reading the best writing that humanity will ever produce. And it isn't good writing. Nonetheless, as people start using AI to generate their text instead of creating their own writing, there will be nothing original left for AI to train on, and people will get dumber and dumber. Like re-recording a recording, you lose quality every time, AI won't be able to train on its own dog food for the same reason.

Someone pointed out earlier that nobody remembers phone numbers any more. I used to have 50+ phone numbers memorized at any given time. Couldn't even begin to remember anyone but my own numbers now. Now just imagine what AI will do for peoples' writing skills. What is the point to an education if AI can just generate it all for you? Just when I thought humanity couldn't get any dumber...
 

book collector

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I didn't know how carbon fiber was placed in a kielwood shaft by Pure X and asked Google about it. Its' AI responded claiming carbon fiber was wrapped around a maple core. After some effort contacting Pure X associates, it appears that is baloney and that no cue shaft of any company is made that way. AI made it up.

Companies put carbon fiber in a maple shaft by inserting a carbon-fiber tube or rod in the center of a cored-out maple shaft. Some put CF in the shaft at the joint end & foam at cue-tip end (Mezz), at joint and cue-tip ends (Bear & Fury), the whole shaft (McDermott?), and maybe even placing maple wood inside and around the CF tube (McDermott?). All CF/Maple shafts are encased in maple.

I asked Google "How is carbon fiber placed in the Pure X Kielwood FUZE?

AI answered that Pure X wove a sheet of carbon fiber around the wood core and glued them with epoxy. It is not inserted "embedded" in the wood --- CF is wrapped around the wood. It implied, too, the shaft surface was carbon fiber.

Garczer spoke with a player for the company that distributes Pure X's FUZE who told a carbon fiber rod or tube runs down the center of the shaft. I wrote to the company, Cue and Case, and it wrote that the “the carbon fiber runs through the shaft itself”. As far as I know, no cue shaft is made by wrapping carbon fiber around a maple core.

Google's AI and its response cited
____ Cue and Case (nothing about wrapping CF here)
____ Fort Worth Billiards Store (nothing about wrapping CF here)
____ Dragon Plate
____ PFH Private Hochschule Göttinge

No reference cited stated anything about wrapping carbon fiber around any cue anything. Dragon Plate and PFH describe the textile-like process of making the carbon fiber but nothing about pool cues. AI's riff probably came from that......

See more info at thread CF infused Torrified shafts at https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/cf-infused-torrified-shafts.568245/

The AI answer on wrapping CF probably came from the links AI cited below:




I watched a program with Jordan Peterson and he said he always has to check AI because he has caught it telling lies. Possibly, if there is no real data ,it will find anecdotal stuff or process other ideas?
 

book collector

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I will tell you why AI will never take over. Most of the parts are made in China and after about 3 years , everything is programmed to fall apart.
 

Paul_#_

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The AI response is changing by claiming only on Wednesday that the carbon fiber is applied like a belt wrap on the shaft in a spiral pattern:
The carbon fiber is woven into a "tape" that is wrapped around the shaft at an angle, which helps to distribute the carbon fiber's strength evenly across the shaft.

It wrote Saturday that the CF is not embedded in the shaft, omitted that comment on Wednesday, and brought it back today. On Saturday the CF was an outside layer and now its a separate layer.

AI now includes this AZ thread Artificial intelligence (Google's AI) making up stuff about pool as one of the links that it includes (along with advertisers).

See the AI question at
 

garczar

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The AI response is changing by claiming only on Wednesday that the carbon fiber is applied like a belt wrap on the shaft in a spiral pattern:
The carbon fiber is woven into a "tape" that is wrapped around the shaft at an angle, which helps to distribute the carbon fiber's strength evenly across the shaft.

It wrote Saturday that the CF is not embedded in the shaft, omitted that comment on Wednesday, and brought it back today. On Saturday the CF was an outside layer and now its a separate layer.

AI now includes this AZ thread Artificial intelligence (Google's AI) making up stuff about pool as one of the links that it includes (along with advertisers).

See the AI question at
please stop. no one gives a shit what AI has to say. what its saying about cf shafts is bullshit. REAL ACTUAL info on cf shafts is easy to find. The topic has been covered a LOT both here and other places. No one wants to read ANYTHING some funky program spits out. CF shafts(not cf cored wood) are made in two ways: Flag-wrapped where cf cloth is wrapped around a madrel and filament wound where cf thread called 'TOW' is wound around a mandrel.
 
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Paul_#_

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CF shafts(not cf cored wood) are made in two ways: Flag-wrapped where cf cloth is wrapped around a madrel and filament wound where cf thread called 'TOW' is wound around a mandrel.
? . . . . OK . . . . ? Can you elaborate?
 

Paul_#_

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OK. So, AI may have confused the construction of CF shafts with the construction of CF inserted in maple-wood wood shafts. AI may have figured instead of CF wound around a mandrel, it figured CF was wound around a maple shaft to produce the CF-in-maple-wood shaft.
 

garczar

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OK. So, AI may have confused the construction of CF shafts with the construction of CF inserted in maple-wood wood shafts. AI may have figured instead of CF wound around a mandrel, it figured CF was wound around a maple shaft to produce the CF-in-maple-wood shaft.
again, who gives a shit wtf ai does?????????
 

Quesports

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Can anyone articulate the steps to removing Google AI from an apple I 14 or similar Apple phone???

It is a PITA!
 

justnum

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Google is shaking down billiards to pay for sponsored AI content.

Before google they had phonebooks, and in the phonebooks you can pay for big or small ads.
 
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