As more bashing against deanoc continues...we now sympathize for him
- Thread starter ShootingHank
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JC is one of the most solid people on this place. Judging from this and your comment about cues I'm riding with JC and buying his drinks.
JC
Coos Cues
Like I said to Patrick, its probably hard to understand for some.
By the way what do you think is the usual mark up for non grocery retail goods?
The folks on here crying the loudest are most likely the hand to mouth types. The ones out by the mailbox waiting for their stimulus crumbs.
Are you insinuating that RJ is doing that with the Magic Chalk that he sells? Or just making a true "hypothetical"?
Cuz I have bought Magic Chalk from him before, and I can tell you it isn't Masters. It's what I use regularly, or at least used to until the lockdown.
I don't believe I'm making any more balls than I used to with other chalk
, but that most assuredly isn't the chalks fault. :grin:
Please stop. My sides can’t take it.
Are you insinuating that RJ is doing that with the Magic Chalk that he sells? Or just making a true "hypothetical"?
Cuz I have bought Magic Chalk from him before, and I can tell you it isn't Masters.
I don't believe I'm making any more balls than I used to with other chalk
Did you not read RJ's post(that I quoted), he was saying how what Dean did was unethical and likened it to him buying silver cup relabeling it and selling it as magic chalk and how that would be bullshit.
I was simply agreeing with his analogy, not saying RJ does that type of unethical bullshit.
Jeez
animatedvmaker
Banned
Please help me understand why any decent person would do what Dean did, and please do not change the subject.
Dean flat out lied to everyone about Jack Potter making the Jackpot cues, and like I said, even if every single buyer of those cues had no issues with what Dean did (lying to them about who made the cues), that does not mean that it is okay what did.
If everyone could be decent and honest in this world, then I think it would be a much better place.
People should not need to lie in order to get sales. Be honest about the product that you are selling, or do not attempt to sell it.
Just seems like Fraud what he did, because Jack Potter did not oversee the production of those Schmelke cues, and had nothing to do with the production of those cues, and Libra cues should have never been mentioned either.
The buyers basically assumed that they were buying a Libra cue, with the way Dean was marketing the Jackpot cues.
I just hope that if / when those Jackpot cues are sold in the future, the new owners did not think that they are getting a Libra, or a Jack Potter custom, and that they will know that they are getting a Schmelke.
I see this type of thing a lot. Sellers selling cues, and marketing them as something that they are not. And maybe they were conned, or the previous owner before them (and so on) was conned about the true maker of the cues.
If the original owners of these cues know what they have, then it might help future owners of those same cues know the true origins of those cues, and not think that they are something that they are not.
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See how quick these guys will take something and twist it up? What you typed was plain understandable English but turned into a question can get ugly.
I thought we were talking about deanoc.
Kids table can stay on topic.
You have said, multiple times, that you're "unaware" of facts. You're "unaware" because you're choosing to not read the threads. You make baseless statements, and contribute nothing to the conversation. Nothing. Not for, or against.
I gave you the red rep because of your ignorance. And, you have, yet again, proved you're happy in your ignorance.
Your retaliatory red rep, "Red Rep for an opinion has a way of coming back", is childish as best.
JC
Coos Cues
There are a lot of scenarios I can envision. Maybe when he started advertising for them and assessing interest Jack was planning to be more involved. Jack did have major health issues along about then. I really don't know but as you can see the folks who bought them aren't complaining much. For Dean to bring it back to life was not wise, I will say that.
JC
Coos Cues
Like that's an insult from the can't operate a hand shovel crew.
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Then Dean should have been up-front and honest with everyone. Then nothing would have come of this. But Dean has a history of fraud when it comes to cues and cue makers. So, none of this surprises me.
You're too dense to understand that has nothing to do with this argument.
For once we agree on that.
animatedvmaker
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It is very sad to hear about anyone having serious health issues, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Dean stated that Jack Potter was making the Jackpot cues.
I imagine that Dean knew that it was not Jack who was making the cues at the time that he was adverting them, even before he decided who he was going to have build the cues.
My point is that it really does not matter who made the cues, because the buyers thought that they were ordering a cue made by Jack Potter, and that is not the case.
It just makes matters even worse that he chose the cheapest cue maker to build the cues.
Also, it is possible that some of those buyers may have always dreamed of owning a Libra custom, and whoever made Libra cues is not who made the Jackpot cues, so Dean should have never used the Libra name to market the cues.
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This is exactly what I was thinking when I made this thread seeing him get bashed in the other thread. I don't like his no picture sales tactics when you want to be as transparent as possible and could quite possibly be the reason why he's getting a bad rap from people on here.
He's not doing anything different from a guy in the pool hall that says he always sells his cues for a profit meaning his cues never depreciate. lol
Like i said there is two sides to every story and perhaps what you mentioned is exactly or similar to what really happened.
He will be back selling again. Business as usual and people shouldn't make a big deal out of it. He's one of the major players in the industry.
I know we're in a lockdown right now so everyone is very opinionated.
P.S. We're starting to see that shift in support of him.
Nope, not even in the slightest.
That is laughable. The real major players in the cue world know, just like us, exactly what he is.
The shift you speak of, is exactly 3 posters. Insignificant ones at that.