Ask The Cuemaker Topic

iusedtoberich said:
If you are using a metal lathe (as opposed to a cue repair lathe), and it has a threading gearbox, you can easily thread grind. Just make a holder to mount a dremel in your toolpost, then make or buy the cutter and thread the hole (or outer diameter) just like you would with a single point threading tool.


After looking for a few days I have been unable to find a thread grinding cutter without spending several hundred dollars on the thread grinding machine. Is this the only option, or would I just use a normal cutting tool for wood/metal (depending on material work is being performed on)? By the way, I would be using a dremel and a metal lathe for the time being.

Thanks again.
 
Joseph Cues said:
There are two cueamakers on some other board who have not heard of thread mills/grinders. :D
One guy asked my how can you thread if you don't tap the hole. :rolleyes:
Hmmm, how do you like this Jon? :D
wow... what is that thing??? a tap??? what does it do?!?!?!?! lol, you need to ask those guys on that other board, how do you think the taps are threaded??? (drill rod threaded, then milled off center (don't know the angle yet), it's not that hard lol) man... how have they made it this long...

Thanks,

Jon

P.S. Shakes, i am waiting for authorization from my superiors, for the answer to your question, you must not be looking in the right places, i got my 1/2" thread mill for around $40-$60.
 
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BiG_JoN said:
wow... what is that thing??? a tap??? what does it do?!?!?!?! lol, you need to ask those guys on that other board, how do you think the taps are threaded??? (drill rod threaded, then milled off center (don't know the angle yet), it's not that hard lol) man... how have they made it this long...

Thanks,

Jon

P.S. Shakes, i am waiting for authorization from my superiors, for the answer to your question, you must not be looking in the right places, i got my 1/2" thread mill for around $40-$60.
Freakin threading mills costs money. lol
We're getting ours carbided. Great thing is they last a long time.
p.s.
Yeah, I took your twin brother's picture out. I hate those people in the desert anyways.
 
Below is MSC's selection. Scroll to the middle of the page. You want "Single Profile Thread Mills". Pay attention to the dimensions. It looks like for a 5/16 thread, you can only thread to a depth of .800 inches on an internal thread. That is fine for ferrules, but probably not for joints. Anyway, this will give you a good starting point.

http://www.mscdirect.com/PDF.process?pdf=343&Section_Id=726

The $200 one's you were looking at probably had multiple threads on them. They are on the previous page in the MSC book.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Below is MSC's selection. Scroll to the middle of the page. You want "Single Profile Thread Mills". Pay attention to the dimensions. It looks like for a 5/16 thread, you can only thread to a depth of .800 inches on an internal thread. That is fine for ferrules, but probably not for joints. Anyway, this will give you a good starting point.

http://www.mscdirect.com/PDF.process?pdf=343&Section_Id=726

The $200 one's you were looking at probably had multiple threads on them. They are on the previous page in the MSC book.
Geez... somebody's gettin' all technical and expensive on us... i just found mine laying around in the junk-yard... how about you joey???

Thanks,

Jon

Where jon finds all of his goodies...
 
BiG_JoN said:
Geez... somebody's gettin' all technical and expensive on us... i just found mine laying around in the junk-yard... how about you joey???

Thanks,

Jon

Where jon finds all of his goodies...
I ground a quarter inch nail.
Lot of work but it's worth it.
 
Joseph Cues said:
I ground a quarter inch nail.
Lot of work but it's worth it.
you need to fly over here and check out this junkyard man... i found a block of aluminum worth over $100 around 2" thick lol, seeing that i work in a mill, and it's a family business, we have sewing machines galour... we went to the junkyard, there was nothing else to do, and well, we found a lot of stuff from another mill that had closed down, and lucky us, all the stuff we wanted was on the other side of a big pile o' junk where nobody could see us, man we tore those other sewing machines apart, and walked out of there with around $10,000 worth of parts lol. It's fun... seriously... you should come over here lol... i found a milling machine, indexer, countless grinders, a bandsaw, an enco lathe, a custom taper attachment, two drill presses and countless other things there... you never know what you could find... all you have to do is look, i had a chance to get a woodlathe (in perfect working order) for around $15-$20 at a yardsale, just drove buy and saw it, and by the time i turned around... it was gone... some sob had beat me to it, lol... maybe i'll find another one... who needs new stuff... i like it broken in... my car has around 165,000 and still going strong...( it had 155,000 when i got it lol)

Thanks,

Jon

*wonders, how many people will actually think all of my equipment came from the junkyard... it's sad how many will...*
 
*Also wonders if anybody reads these mindless ramblings either*

Thanks,

Jon
 
HOLY CRAP!!!
Pls. if you find a nice Gorton Pantomill, I'll trade you a Last Farry Commemorative Meucci cue for it. :D
 
Joseph Cues said:
HOLY CRAP!!!
Pls. if you find a nice Gorton Pantomill, I'll trade you a Last Farry Commemorative Meucci cue for it. :D
oh s#it man, if i had known i wouldn't have played rock-paper-scissors for that last one lol... damn those scissors lol.

If i find one, i'll let you know lol, as i said, you never know what you might find, i need to go to the local trophy shop and see if they have anything they want to sell lol.

Oh, and i had a quarter inch nail ground just right, but then i dropped it...

Thanks,

Jon

Read any good books lately??? lol
 
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Joseph Cues said:
There are two cueamakers on some other board who have not heard of thread mills/grinders. :D
One guy asked my how can you thread if you don't tap the hole. :rolleyes:
Hmmm, how do you like this Jon? :D
cuecomponents_1769_37235058

Hi guys, this is my third try at posting. My puter dish, is out. using my wifes computer and phone line..


THIS STATEMENT MIGHT PISS OFF THE WORLD.
I, really don't give a shit.....so be it....

Just can't stand guys who don't know what they are doing and guys who can't play a lick and claim to be cuemakers. PLEASE.......

Whoever, and I mean whoever is machining this forearm in Josephs picture, is clueless about machining woods and cues.


1.- never hold a cue like the picture. For this step in cuemaking, hold it with a bushing that's at least 5" long, with it solid in the 6 jaw chuck.. This will let you hold the part tight without marring the wood. The next thing it does is, keep the internal tapping pressure from splitting the wood, while drilling, boring and or taping.

2.- to thread is easy, just use a tool made to match your threads, and grind them with a router.Tool cost about $200.00 clams, cheap for what it does. I bought 3 of them 25 years ago, still use them......

3.- whoever is doing this is clueless about building cues. [I FOLKS, DON'T GIVE A RATS ASS IF THIS PISSES THE WHOLE WORLD OFF], I, for one am tired of these wanta-be's, WHO CAN'T GET TO FIRST BASE WITH CUES.. I know what works to keep them from rattling down line. This guy does not...{ if this guy is a cuemaker, I am astronaut}. These types are in it for money and only money, or maybe fame. Who wants to be a famous "no cue" building guy, with a bad reputation for not having good work habits....not me, pal.....

4.-Never hold the wood like that, always place a small bushing [ mine is made of bronze], around the part sticking out of the lathe, so you will not split this also, while drilling, boring and or taping. I don't tap, I just grind my threads. Comes clean.....Keeps all things in alignment......

5.- Make sure that the forearm is held up in the air and on center, inside the spindal tube. This can be done with a ground soild rod with a 60 degree point on it, that will slide into the spindal and or a slide in bushing, to hold up the nose.....

6.- the lathe in the picture, has be oiled with some heavy motor oil or lathe ways oil. WRONG again. Use transmission oil, it's light, just wipe it on, wipe it off. It's just what you need. Heavy oil will allow the saw/dust to ball up, trany-fluid will just allow it to slide easy as hell...

7.- this so called cuemaker wanta-be, got the tap hanging out in mid-air. What a joke this is. Shorten it all up, fellow. Please!

8.-Now remove the taping handle and place the tap in the
drill chuck in the tail-stock-quill.. DUH!

9.- clean up your lathe, remove all the oil as seen in the picture. Nasty..

10.- If you tap, be sure and turn the part fast, so you don't tear the wanta-be, threads. For lessons, call me.

11.- Try calling me so I can help you out, before you turn off some cue buyers with this kind of sloppy work.They might not buy but one cue, with your lack of knowlege. If you get lined out, they may be a repaet customer....830-232-5991

sorry, just got to tell it like it is.
blud
 
Welcome back Blud.
Try not to hold up. :D
That picture also shows the maker puts his 3/8 stud into the forearm.
I don't see any phenolic ring at the bottom either.
What do you think of that?
This maker claims he doesn't take orders anymore.
Just get on his waiting list. :rolleyes:
Yet, I have not seen any of his cues.
 
I know exactly who this is. Sometime in the past 4 months they have updated their website so drastically that they removed the section(s) that displayed "How A Cue is Built". I contacted this person(s) to ask some questions about their wood and got an answer that didn't make a lick of sense (even to me). I deleted their site from my favorites, I still know who it is though.

Zim
 
Zims Rack said:
I know exactly who this is. Sometime in the past 4 months they have updated their website so drastically that they removed the section(s) that displayed "How A Cue is Built". I contacted this person(s) to ask some questions about their wood and got an answer that didn't make a lick of sense (even to me). I deleted their site from my favorites, I still know who it is though.

Zim
I got crappy shafts from them.
I asked them to send me pics of the woods they sell NOT represention.
They said they are too busy. Ahahahaaa!
Right, 20 dollars per piece and they're too busy.
 
Well it sought of looks like if you use their special epoxy as a sealer and base coat you can do the rest with super glue. It will work but then we go back to, you get what you pay for and some times you pay for what you don't get.
 
Welcome back Blud, it's been all quiet and shit here lol... just me and Joey keeping it going... lol BAHAHAHAHA...

Thanks

Jon
 
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