Attention Serious Szam Buyers

skins said:
it's obvious to me that neither of you are "serious buyers" and rude for infiltrating a persons for sale thread with nothing but negative comments. the only suggestion i can make is if you're not interested move on and let the person do "their" thing.

good luck with the sale Mike they will sure find the "appropriate" home.....
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But when you think about it, its not much different than you jumping into everyone's threads to hype up Keith's cues. So, what's your point?
 
Hey..........if for nothing else, look at all the attention that Mikes selling technique has drummed up!!!!!!!!!

Mikes a good guy, let him sell the way he wants to.

I would prefer to see pics of cues for sale, but you can't always get what you want!!

Russ.......
 
Fatboy said:
posting the pics is good for the whole market, preception creates value, having them only seen by serious buyers dosent do anything but stroke the egos of the rich snobs, when i get pics of mine i'll post them up for the world to see, i'm not a snob, it isnt bragging its called sharing, what i have dosent make me better person, hell i might be a bad guy, my assetts dont make me the man I am, i was the same guy when I was flat or pumped up. So when the time is right i'll share them, not being a show off or trying to make others jealous, i let anyone that can play hit balls with my of my cues except one or two cues i have, if you cant share what you have you shouldnt have it,

I let people drive all but 2 of my cars-they will have a memorie for a life time, i remember the first Ferrari I drove in 86, its nice to share and touch peoples lifes, so pictures of cues is sharing and creating the demand, i remember the first Sazm i played with Lucky has it now, its a 8pt. with a ton of ivory in it, i played an hour with it, i'll never forget that, i was sold then on Szams, now 21 years later i have a couple, if that guy didnt loan me the cue for an hour i never would have know what a Szam is, now its in a vault in Japan not doing Gus or Barry any favors its a waste of a cue, if i wire Lucky $200,000 for it it would be mine, i could make it happen and to just keep it out of the publics eye is a selfish thing, some cal me a show off i call myself a sharer, i share what i have but i'm not a trick or soft, niceness dosent mean softness.


more exposure they get the more demand there is thus the higher the prices go up in time, because the up commers making $$$ know what to buy, if they are in the rich people vaults getting dusty until they sell them to another rich guy to put in a different vault the market wouild get soft, look at art a $50,000,000 picasso is better displayed in a museem than in a house. People seeing the cues stirrs up emotion and that emotion creates the value, hiding things from the people who cant afford them dosent help the market, it just makes small D*** guys feel good to be "exculsive" well i got news for them $10,000 aint anything to brag about, in the pool world it is but charter a private jet and see how far 10 dime will take you, LOL man the big egos of the middle class disgust me, hell i'm broke compaired to where I want to be and I charter jets 2-3 times a year, like Gorden Gecko said in Wall Street "A real player or nothing at all 50 or 100 million" and that was 20 years ago, now thats money. i want to live in my own jet travelling the world, have a 100,000 sqft house and 10 condos all over the world, think big get big.

mike post the pics this is silly
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Fatboy, you're a gas! I think you were an evangelist in a past life, and may become one again.
I can see it now, THE FIRST CHURCH OF POOL, Reverend Oliver T. Fatboy presiding. You like it?

I picked up a nice Szam just yesterday and it belonged to you know who. I'm not gonna let you see it unless you give me a Bank Pool rematch. We can play for a chicken wing dinner, since that's what you like to eat. :)
 
let just respect what mike's sell technique and wish him luck on the sell :) ...i guess to post hte price of the cues are good enough...coz some of the collectors don't want to show the price tag of the stuff they are buying.....so that people won't brag the price if the saw the stuff before..does it make sense guys? lol..


jUn :)
 
pharaoh68 said:
But when you think about it, its not much different than you jumping into everyone's threads to hype up Keith's cues. So, what's your point?
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gimme a break....now you're just starting something for nothing that has nothing to do with this issue...please. most anything i offer is always been a fact or truth based on my long years of experience as a player, designer and teacher of the game. show me all the egregious attempts where i've "hyped" "our" cues in any way but as an "option" for what the poster is looking for. by the way they're Keith's, Sherrie's, Daniels and my cues.......
 
The Beginner said:
let just respect what mike's sell technique and wish him luck on the sell :) ...i guess to post hte price of the cues are good enough...coz some of the collectors don't want to show the price tag of the stuff they are buying.....so that people won't brag the price if the saw the stuff before..does it make sense guys? lol..


jUn :)
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i knew there were more like you out there who actually respect and have an idea of the sellers wishes......:)
 
I Don't Care Either Way......... But The Prices Were Already Disclosed, So I Don't Understand Not Posting The Pics. It's Easy Enough To E-mail For Them ,i Guess, But It Doesn't Give The Buyer Any More Privacy Really. We Already All Know How Much They Are Being Sold For, And Anybody Can Ask For The Pics. So I Don't See A Difference In Privacy....

If This Post Made No Sense I'm Sorry. I Know What I'm Thinking, But I Am Exhausted Beyond Belief, And Nothing I Type Sounds Right To Me, So I'm Hopeing That This Post Makes Sense To Somebody.

Marcus <------ Doesn't Care If There Are Pics Or Not.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Don't Care Either Way......... But The Prices Were Already Disclosed, So I Don't Understand Not Posting The Pics. It's Easy Enough To E-mail For Them ,i Guess, But It Doesn't Give The Buyer Any More Privacy Really. We Already All Know How Much They Are Being Sold For, And Anybody Can Ask For The Pics. So I Don't See A Difference In Privacy....

If This Post Made No Sense I'm Sorry. I Know What I'm Thinking, But I Am Exhausted Beyond Belief, And Nothing I Type Sounds Right To Me, So I'm Hopeing That This Post Makes Sense To Somebody.

Marcus <------ Doesn't Care If There Are Pics Or Not.
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Your post makes PERFECT sense......sweet dreams
 
With All Due Respect

skins said:
you just don't get it and i'm probably wasting my "fingers" but, contrary to what i think you believe, there's no such thing as a "non" serious Szamboti buyer. anyone who knows about Szam's, that truly wants one and can afford one will jump through hoops at just about every offer to acquire the info regardless of it's advertising. the rest are just tire kickers and onlookers imo. like i said it's obvious you both weren't interested in the cues so leave it alone and let the seller have their space. it's obvious to me and others that the comments in the thread at least say who aren't the serious buyers.

skins - has owned many Szamboti's and is a serious buyer....
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I apologized for my first post, which was misinterpreted because it was rude and short. But you continue to attack me when I was trying to apologize and clarify my point.

I'm confused about you being a "serious buyer" and guys like me being "tire kickers" and "onlookers" because of the following Szamboti cue:

A couple of years ago a friend of yours named Al told you he wanted to sell his fancy Gus Szamboti. It was a totally original fancy Szam with ivory railroad tracks and four original shafts. Instead of buying the cue, you posted it on AZ to try to attract buyers. It did not sell.

The thread is still on here somewhere. It is a fantastic cue, and you should have bought it. You had a shot at it before I did.

Finally Al called me. I met him in Chicago with more than enough cash. We made a deal and I came home with the cue.

If you are a "serious buyer", and I am a "tire kicker", why is your buddy Al's Szamboti sitting in my vault?
 
Szams

Well, I Am Throughly Confused, But Then, I Am A Different Type Of Collector In That I Like To Share My Cues With Other People. Apparently, Some People Don't Feel That Way Or Are Just Mad That They Can't Afford The Cues. The Old Saying "opinions Are Like Rear Ends, Everybody Has One." Really Applies Here.

Skip Coburger
 
Cuaba said:
I apologized for my first post, which was misinterpreted because it was rude and short. But you continue to attack me when I was trying to apologize and clarify my point.
i'm not so much attacking you as stating the obvious. you should have left your comments for another thread and time not within a for sale add which i'm guilty of as well

I'm confused about you being a "serious buyer" and guys like me being "tire kickers" and "onlookers" because of the following Szamboti cue:i
if you are responding to an add and seller as anything other than a serious buyer you ARE either a tire kicker or an onlooker. it's nice to see nice cues so i myself have been an onlooker many times but never a tire kicker and i wasn't implying you were either.

A couple of years ago a friend of yours named Al told you he wanted to sell his fancy Gus Szamboti. It was a totally original fancy Szam with ivory railroad tracks and four original shafts. Instead of buying the cue, you posted it on AZ to try to attract buyers. It did not sell.

what does that prove????? because i had access to the web and he didn't and was being a good friend helping out mine that somehow makes me or the add itself responsible??? you must be joking.... if it didn't sell it was because he priced it way out of the market which i had nothing to do with. did you buy that cue for 35K,30K,25K+?? i think not

The thread is still on here somewhere. It is a fantastic cue, and you should have bought it. You had a shot at it before I did.

sure maybe i should have and i guarantee it was offered to me for far less than what you paid but beyond that i didn't have the expendable monies to add a Szam to my collection at that time and told him to make as much as he could for himself. he wanted that cue to go to me first for a song but i couldn't do it and if anything you should be thanking me

Finally Al called me. I met him in Chicago with more than enough cash. We made a deal and I came home with the cue.

good luck to you!!

If you are a "serious buyer", and I am a "tire kicker", why is your buddy Al's Szamboti sitting in my vault?
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you don't read and/or comprehend very well. i can't determine whether you were a tire kicker or onlooker and to me it doesn't matter, but what does is making a negative comment that could possibly affect ones sale on these forums. it takes more than the potential of being a "serious buyer" to avoid that. it takes respect for the seller. which too many on these forums do not have.
 
skins said:
with respect, being a "snob" has nothing to do with it. allot of collectors would rather be anonymous with certain transactions as would the sellers that's their right. you're one that "gets off" on sharing your wares and i think that's great as i'm the same way but on the flip side, my point is let those who want different and those wanting to sell the way the want do so and if you're interested make a move if not move on. it's as simple as that.
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i agree that being private is very important, thats why i'm fatboy here, and will be for ever. I dont put all my bussiness on the street, but showing a pic of a cue isnt going to hurt anyone, if I bought the szam in this thread from Mike all that would be public is the cue was sold, i would ask mike to please respect my privacy, i never discuss what I paid for anything I buy unless a friend asks or I want to give up info/price to some I trust.

what i disagree with is not sharing pics of works of art to anyone who wants to see them, that dosent serve any purpose. I have been very lucky/blessed what ever the case in the last 8 years that has put me in a position I can buy nice cues, for 75% of my life I could only look and dream, that motivated me. Now that I have arrived, Its satifying to share with other people,


I had a friend ask me if he could do a pohto shoot of my cars for a magazine, I said sure, just use my first name and say i'm from LA-which is true and no more about me period, well he didnt my first, and last name is in the article in every other sentence, he mentioned how I used green money to buy a investment car. and alot of other detail about me i didnt want to be public with, My intent was to show the cars to people in the magazine and not be part of the article, I asked not to be named but the editor wanted it so i asked for first name only and like i just said he wrote a story of things i told him in a private way, he sold me out, i just let it drop. I know alot ov very famous people, i hate attention, all i want is the $$$, I have a cue in a musium show now, my name isnt on the display i made sure of that, i keep my biz off the streets, if some sells me out i'm done with them-like the car magazine tinng i wrote him off
 
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Fatboy,
I try to stay private on here as well, so I understand. We actually met at SW a few years ago. You showed Laurie, Al, Mickey & I your new Bentley.

Nice car.
 
Tim-
I guess I'm just nitpicking here but you gotta admit, you jump into a lot of threads and drop Keith's name. You can't POSSIBLY say that this isn't true.
Maybe I am starting something for no reason. Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. Maybe I need some more coffee. Who knows? But you gotta admit, what I said certainly isn't true. Is it?

Brian
 
Cuaba said:
Fatboy,
I try to stay private on here as well, so I understand. We actually met at SW a few years ago. You showed Laurie, Al, Mickey & I your new Bentley.

Nice car.
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thanks,


the white drop top or the black Arnage? i sold both of them, now I have 2 phantoms. that was along time ago.
 
The Black Arnage

Fatboy said:
the white drop top or the black Arnage? i sold both of them, now I have 2 phantoms. that was along time ago
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You had a yellow Diablo at the time as well.
 
Cuaba said:
You had a yellow Diablo at the time as well.
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i bought that car from nick cage, i had it for 3 years and sold it, stupid mistake, i have replaced it with other Lambos, since. The yellow one was my first one and a great cat, the 98 and 99 were better models, my 97 had weak brakes for how fast it was, i bought that car in 99 i couldnt afford a new one so i got a good used one, that was right when my biz started going good after 3 years of making nothing,


right now my businss is a little soft, it slowed down in 2004 for no reason, oh well it is what it is- biz will pick up its the economy, its funny the first year i had the yellow lambow it was fun the attention etc but after a while it gets old, now i hate it, The Rolls Royces are a good tool for meeting the girls, Ferraris work good too, Lambos scare all the girls away.
 
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