I say get the together again, winner gets the car.
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I say get the together again, winner gets the car.
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Well the bottom line is: we don't know. Maybe this will be resolved. Maybe it won't. At least SJD deserves the benefit of the doubt, particularly vs an unknown guy, no?
Lou Figueroa
Well the bottom line is: we don't know. Maybe this will be resolved. Maybe it won't. At least SJD deserves the benefit of the doubt, particularly vs an unknown guy, no?
Lou Figueroa
I can't say one way or the other about the car, but from all the posts at OP.org, plenty of people remember Tall Jeff / Jeff Sparks. So far, present debate aside, all have good things to say.
Cory
No, it does not. He never gave anyone the benefit of the doubt here or at 1P.org, did he ? Not in life or in death. I know SJD as well as Mr. Sparks. And Mr. Sparks gives SJD the 5 and the breaks in being a fabulous addition to 1P.org, tells good stories, colorful past, writes well, and is a nice as can be. Must be why one is still there and the other is not.
He even apologized to SJD, and he clearly was not poking fun, just told a story, like lots of stories he has told. Heck, Mr. Sparks recalls when he got taken down hard and lost his cash, cue and alligator shoes. So, he said he didn't mean to upset SJD, and was sorry if he took it that way.
So, far, it appears this guy traveled in the thick of things in the gambling world. The names, the places, etc. I have no reason to doubt him. NONE.
SJD, amazing how some folks are so ready to believe a guy that drops out of the woodwork with a 50 year old recollection. Most certainly the guy beat someone out of a car. That you don't recall losing a car means to me that the guy was or is confused about who he beat all those years ago.
But of course drawing THAT kind of logical conclusion would take a bit of critical thinking. I guess some here prefer to go off half-cocked, but hey, what else is new.
Lou Figueroa
Well, obviously you're not being fair. Just as obviously a 50-year old recollection is suspect, particularly when one of the two primary protagonist in the story remembers it differently. Like I said, bottom line: we don't know.
You've often said how close you were to Freddy and I think that is clouding your judgement. So go ahead and jump up and down and crow (something you apparently like to do with little to no reason) about how SJD air-barreled a car, when actually you have no clue about what really happened.
I'm sure Jeff will be a great addition. Hope he stops in here.
Lou Figueroa
I can't say one way or the other about the car, but from all the posts at OP.org, plenty of people remember Tall Jeff / Jeff Sparks. So far, present debate aside, all have good things to say.
Cory
This has nothing to with other folks, it has to do with SJD and his attitude. I know u may not have liked some folks that I did, but I treated you fairly based on how u treated me.
Well, if he wants to call us all inbreds from chicago, like he did recently, then I will just go to his new moniker Salavage Junkyard Dick, cause is where that car wound up eventually
There is no common ground for him, and his banning from the site that elected him to the HOF can been seen as proof is in the pudding. Cmon, that should have been awake up call for him, don't u think ?
I still don't dislike the guy, but I'm not going to take crap from him for the next ten years and say thank you.
I know both, have played and gambled with both.
Good guys to play with, no BS.
Have won and lost Playing Dick, extended credit, was always paid. He did the same for me.
I met Jeff when he got out of the navy, known him since.
I really believe it's a case of mistaken Identity
I believe they were around Houston at different times. It's hard to recall after 45/50 years.
Rodney Stephens.
P.S. I'm doubtful any of the posters knew or played or saw either.playing.
SJD
PS..By the way, I stopped in that old rough, tough cowboy bar, (the action joint) just a few years ago on my way to a funeral in Wichita !..Its still there.. I sit down, and order a drink, and I see about 6 couples on the dance floor...ALL MEN, no women..The old joint is now a 'gay' bar !..(not that theres anything wrong with that)
And the same logic applies... maybe some folks wanted to forget a bad "incident", and has since passed it out of his memory. Some tend to think if a player beat a guy out of a car, he'd remember that the rest of his life.
Kind of sux when someone you like is on the other side of a negative story, huh ? Your retainer fee on this story is gonna be HUGE, enjoy the extra cash and take your lovely wife out for a nice dinner, enjoy yourselves![]()
And the same logic applies... maybe some folks wanted to forget a bad "incident", and has since passed it out of his memory. Some tend to think if a player beat a guy out of a car, he'd remember that the rest of his life.
Kind of sux when someone you like is on the other side of a negative story, huh ? Your retainer fee on this story is gonna be HUGE, enjoy the extra cash and take your lovely wife out for a nice dinner, enjoy yourselves![]()
LMAO! For those that may not know, Lou was trained and paid to do this for the majority (if not all) of his life.
He was a Public Affairs Officer...that is what they DO!
Have you ever watched TV news (any level, any channel) and seen a government PAO give a briefing of some controversial sort and you come away scratching your head and saying "this person is either the biggest kiss ass, dumb ass, or liar I've ever seen?" And then the other people watching it or mentioning it say the same thing?
Enough said. I'm sure some of the things they say are true, but it may take Snowden to rat them out because they make up stories so well.
LMAO! For those that may not know, Lou was trained and paid to do this for the majority (if not all) of his life. He was a Public Affairs Officer...that is what they DO!
Have you ever watched TV news (any level, any channel) and seen a government PAO give a briefing of some controversial sort and you come away scratching your head and saying "this person is either the biggest kiss ass, dumb ass, or liar I've ever seen?" And then the other people watching it or mentioning it say the same thing?
Enough said. I'm sure some of the things they say are true, but it may take Snowden to rat them out because they make up stories so well.
lol, you guys up in Chicago aren't all inbred?!
(I kid, I kid.)
BTW, SJD was elected to the HOF by the *members* of the site and many of us still feel he should not have been banned. Some of us have even dared to publicly voice that opinion. Banning him is, ultimately, the decision of *one* guy, so it is proof of nothing except that.
Lou Figueroa
Well he's not very good at it. He must have missed the part where Jeff said he played SJD another time(before the car air barrel) at LeCue in Houston: