Autographed Mosconi Balls?

[Jeff]

Ok, I am really starting to wonder just how many Willie Mosconi balls are out there.

There is one guy in particular on ebay who seems to have one a week for sale. Says it comes with a COA but doesn't say what kind. Just in the last 30 days, he has sold 4 balls, a book, and a card autographed by Willie. He has a ball for sale again right now.

I think it is a safe bet I have seen this guy sell at least 20 or 30 balls autographed by Willie, and that's just the ones I have noticed..

He seems to have a constant source of Jimmy Caras autographed stuff too.

So do people just believe this stuff is real? Are they afraid to actually send it away to verify? How can one guy have so many and they be real?


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[Bamacues]

Ok, I am really starting to wonder just how many Willie Mosconi balls are out there.

There is one guy in particular on ebay who seems to have one a week for sale. Says it comes with a COA but doesn't say what kind. Just in the last 30 days, he has sold 4 balls, a book, and a card autographed by Willie. He has a ball for sale again right now.

I think it is a safe bet I have seen this guy sell at least 20 or 30 balls autographed by Willie, and that's just the ones I have noticed..

He seems to have a constant source of Jimmy Caras autographed stuff too.

So do people just believe this stuff is real? Are they afraid to actually send it away to verify? How can one guy have so many and they be real?


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It is always possible that a true collector had several signed way back in the day. but the odds are, they are fake. I watched a show on the athletic autograph business last night. Expert said that 70-80% of all autographed memorabilia was fake, even if it had a certificate with it. To prove the point, they had one of the staff sign a baseball and send ot to an "authenticator" for verification. He paid $50 and the certification came back as real..you just really have to be careful.
Joe

 

[pulzcul]

Willies balls

Ok, I am really starting to wonder just how many Willie Mosconi balls are out there.

There is one guy in particular on ebay who seems to have one a week for sale. Says it comes with a COA but doesn't say what kind. Just in the last 30 days, he has sold 4 balls, a book, and a card autographed by Willie. He has a ball for sale again right now.

I think it is a safe bet I have seen this guy sell at least 20 or 30 balls autographed by Willie, and that's just the ones I have noticed..

He seems to have a constant source of Jimmy Caras autographed stuff too.

So do people just believe this stuff is real? Are they afraid to actually send it away to verify? How can one guy have so many and they be real?


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Later in Willies life he made quite a bit of money signing balls. Usually several boxes at a time.The ones that he sells on ebay also come with a photo of willy in his 60's signing balls in his home at his table.I know that still might be faked but it does lend some credibility to his product.Heres to hoping the one I bought is real!! Don

 

[Jack Madden]

Later in Willies life he made quite a bit of money signing balls. Usually several boxes at a time.The ones that he sells on ebay also come with a photo of willy in his 60's signing balls in his home at his table.I know that still might be faked but it does lend some credibility to his product.Heres to hoping the one I bought is real!! Don

Don,
You have them in your pool room? Heard from the boys it was an awesome place to play.

 

[kvinbrwr]

Awesome Percentage but True

It is always possible that a true collector had several signed way back in the day. but the odds are, they are fake. I watched a show on the athletic autograph business last night. Expert said that 70-80% of all autographed memorabilia was fake, even if it had a certificate with it. To prove the point, they had one of the staff sign a baseball and send ot to an "authenticator" for verification. He paid $50 and the certification came back as real..you just really have to be careful.
Joe

Joe

I deal in collectibles for a living and the 75% figure for autographed material is fairly well respected, sports memorabilia being the worst offender. COAs mean nothing, even provenance is speculative, all it means is that some years ago someone else was impressed by a possible fake. Authenticators in the collectible world are just hired guns and largely suspect, all the more reason to respect guys like Chris Tate and Barry Szamboti that work to protect the authenticity of the items in the historical cue world.

Kevin

 

[Jeff]

Well, the guy had an autographed Willie ball on ebay that still had 3 days to go and the auction is gone now.

I wonder if he saw this post or if someone told him about it. Can't figure out why he would pull it because it had a bid on it.

Hmmmmmm


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[TheBook]

It is always possible that a true collector had several signed way back in the day. but the odds are, they are fake. I watched a show on the athletic autograph business last night. Expert said that 70-80% of all autographed memorabilia was fake, even if it had a certificate with it. To prove the point, they had one of the staff sign a baseball and send ot to an "authenticator" for verification. He paid $50 and the certification came back as real..you just really have to be careful.
Joe

The dad of my son's roommate in college was a professional autograph signer. He did it part time. He would sign baseballs, footballs, cards and etc. My son was with him once at a card show and called a dealer out on a signed baseball. The dealer swore it was original. He bought a ball and signed all of the autographs and the same dealer told him that it was authentic and he knew because he was a expert. He then asked the dealer for a baseball and proceeded to sign it. The dealer still insisted that everything he had was authentic.