Didn't efren say he learned a lot by watching low level players ?
B or C speed matches with commentary?
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Didn't efren say he learned a lot by watching low level players ?
Yes, he did. To expand... He said he learned from watching lower level players because all of the pros shoot the same shot. Lower level players shoot and try shots that the pros would never even think about/consider. You can learn lots of 2 and 3 railers by just missing balls in the intended pocket. LOL
I once missed a side pocket shot off the point in practice twice in a row, both times it went off the point and into the corner. There was a guy that was watching and looked super impressed, he asked if I was practicing that shot since I made it twice in a row LOL
Hey, that's how we got Viagra, Penicillin, Teflon, Sticky Notes and so on. Accidents or products that were made for one thing but ended up being super good for another thing.
I agree with the rest that studying the shot selection of top players will pay the most dividends. Many of these shots aren't terribly difficult to execute, it's just know how to do it and recognizing the position. I do think there is some merit in watching lower ranked players occasionally, if only to identify improper shot selection and understand why it was a poor choice.
I would also pay attention to the rhythm in which they practice stroke vs the pros.
The rhythm they move from shot to shot.
When they take their time and when they dont.
You can learn alot from all different speeds.
The rhythm they move from shot to shot.
When they take their time and when they dont.
You can learn alot from all different speeds.
I didnt read all the replies, burt you are gonna hea a lot of, 'yeah, he shoulda made that ball".
Should that be what you are looking for, you will find it in the action pool tour matches where max eberle is on the mic.
Should that be what you are looking for, you will find it in the action pool tour matches where max eberle is on the mic.
I think this is a little bit of a misconception... While I agree occasionally there are shot that a C player can't and shouldn't shoot.. Those are far and few between.
You really should be imitating the shot selection that the pros use in the majority of their 9/10 ball run outs... Since they stay in line so well, the majority of their shots are not extremely difficult just executed with an extremely high level of consistency.
In other words, in most situations there is the pro-way and the wrong-way.
OK, I'll bite...what was Viagra originally made for? I'm not sure I want to know.
And to answer the OP question...watch anything with Grady Mathews doing commentary. Usually one pocket and sometimes straight pool. Don't bother with B and C players, you'll only learn b and c bad habits. You can get those playing your friends
Its not just about shot selection. If your a c player watch several c player matches. Then watch several b player matches. The differences you spot may help you to move to the next level. B>A, A>AA, etc. You will begin to get the Idea, its not always about shot selection because over time your cueball control gets better, your shot making ability gets better, playing a safe or going for the tough shot changes also from level to level. Gl
search my name (youtube), I've been uploading a bunch of my matches. no commentary, I've been too lazy/busy to add descriptions, but I welcome any criticism or advice (via PM would be preferable)
15 years of bad blood, months of trash talk, photoshops galore, $10,000 a man, the Accu-Stats Arena, an all female pro under card, pool balls about to be swung, spectators falling out of chairs, chicken wings flying, good commentators in the booth, stats from AtLarge, and... two B/C players. I think you can still find it somewhere out there on the inter web.
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Thank you - I'm embarrassed that I didn't search there first...
Bingo! Efren studied their shots and watched how the balls reacted. He learned things from seeing missed shots!
Hello and good morning! I can understand your feeling like a professional level match is playing above your pay grade. But watching players in your current skill level is not going to teach you necessarily how to run racks better or have better shot selection.
In my time playing pool, I have divided up my video watching into several different pros for several different areas.
For touch shots and safety play, I often watch the Filipino players. For shot selection and pattern play, I often watch Neils, whom I regard personally as the heir of Ralph Souquet's tactical precision. For jump shots, I will often turn to Nick Vandenberg, who seems to possess an amazing amount of insight and control related to the jump shot. For breaking, I'm watching the Prince of Pool Corey Deuel and Shane Van Boening, two of the best breakers our sport has ever witnessed.
You can also watch by game type. For pattern recognition and shot selection, watch straight pool and 8 ball. For position tips and english instruction, watch 9 and 10. For defense, watch one pocket. For fun and that shot you hopefully never have to use, watch Derby City Bank Pool.
Just always remember: in order for gold to reach its purest form, it my be hammered and refined with fire. You have to seek out greater challenges and better players if you want your game to improve rather than stagnate.
In my time playing pool, I have divided up my video watching into several different pros for several different areas.
For touch shots and safety play, I often watch the Filipino players. For shot selection and pattern play, I often watch Neils, whom I regard personally as the heir of Ralph Souquet's tactical precision. For jump shots, I will often turn to Nick Vandenberg, who seems to possess an amazing amount of insight and control related to the jump shot. For breaking, I'm watching the Prince of Pool Corey Deuel and Shane Van Boening, two of the best breakers our sport has ever witnessed.
You can also watch by game type. For pattern recognition and shot selection, watch straight pool and 8 ball. For position tips and english instruction, watch 9 and 10. For defense, watch one pocket. For fun and that shot you hopefully never have to use, watch Derby City Bank Pool.
Just always remember: in order for gold to reach its purest form, it my be hammered and refined with fire. You have to seek out greater challenges and better players if you want your game to improve rather than stagnate.