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how often do i need to break and run out in 9 ball to be considered a b player?
how many balls do i need to run in straight pool to be considered a b player?
i would like to see how far away far away from the b range i am without the confusing "knows how to exectute, but lacks skill" and all this technical stuff. I just wanna hear straight up what i need to do and how often.
 
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What's your high run?
B Player should make a 30 run before the nights out.
An A player will most likley make a 70 run by nights end
Bill
 
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I consider my self a low b player
please dont take this the wrong way
I hear and see players rating them self
been playing a number of years and have played with some of the best

100+
 
q stick said:
I consider my self a low b player
please dont take this the wrong way
I hear and see players rating them self
been playing a number of years and have played with some of the best

100+
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is that 100+ you or them?
 
iamgoingto said:
how many balls do i need to run in straight pool to be considered a b player?
how often do i need to break and run out in 9 ball?
i would like to see how far away far away from the b range i am without the confusing "knows how to exectute, but lacks skill" and all this technical stuff. I just wanna hear straight up what i need to do and how often.
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My sense of it is that if you are B player, your typical high run in a race to 100 against an opponent who plays your speed should be about 25 - 30. Your high run should probably be in the 60 - 70 range.

Of course, B speed refers to nine ball ability, and some play straight pool at a different level than they play nine ball, so there's no real formula.
 
thanks old schooler
as you said strait pool and 9 ball are difererent

its hard to rate a player
I try to take all the informtion avl.
by that i mean from the Efren to the whats his name ME
 
I'm not sure if you can make such generalizations as "a B player should do this at 14.1, and they should do this at 9-ball, etc.", because most people do not have the same level of proficiency at both games. For years, I had ran more balls playing 9-ball than I had playing 14.1 because I was predominantly a 9-ball player. That's not the case anymore, but I still play much, much stronger 9-ball than straight pool. I think you almost have to base these ratings on a particular game. Or, if you want to see how you stack up with a more precise rating system, you can use one of the many skill rating games out there. Q-Skill and Fargo are two good ones that come to mind.

Good luck!

Aaron
 
A good way to take measure on yourself is "equal offense". 140+ on a consistent basis would make you a decent B player , maybe even a borderline A player. 100 - 139 would make you a weaker B player to possibly a C player. ( not gospel but just a good way to get some sort of measure)

play 10 racks of equal offense:

Call pocket game. Each player gets ten turns alone at the
table; a turn begins with an open break of a full rack, and ends on a
miss, foul or scratch, or run of the 15 balls. Respot any balls that go in on the open
break, and start with ball in hand in the kitchen. There is no penalty
for scratching on the break. After starting in the kitchen a foul or scratch does not subtract points, it just
ends the turn, but balls made on a foul do not count. Keep track of the number of balls legally pocketed in each of the 10 tries , add them up after 10 racks.
 
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hi selftaut
it seems these talks go the same way.
dont mean to doubt you but what is consitent
1in10 1in20 and so on
 
q stick said:
hi selftaut
it seems these talks go the same way.
dont mean to doubt you but what is consitent
1in10 1in20 and so on
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Hi q stick , as you say , these types of things are certainly debatable , myself I would put "consistent" in the category of 2 out of 3 on the total score., or maybe a once a day drill with it and average out over a months time. The level of concentration to consistently hit 140+ is A level concentration , after that it exposes ones shotmaking and position.
 
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Hi selftaut
I have to say its a pleasure hearing a response like that.
most of the time we here trash talk.
Phila area player or try to be.
 
I think there are a lot of B players that become B+ players for the money. I kwow I took more time to shoot and gave the game a lot more thought when there was money riding on it.

Then you have some B players that become C_C+ players when the money is up. Johnnyt
 
There was one kid that came in my room on Long Island in the 1960's he would run 50-80 balls in 14.1 on a tight pocket table almost at will. I mean this guy split the pocket at nine foot and played better than average position for time or time and a few dollars.

Raise the bet to $20 14.1 and he became a C player. I never have seen money change a player so much since. Johnnyt
 
ok cool...i know u say this is hard to do but what about 9 ball. i play nine ball, i dont really play straight pool i just thought i would ask to see what the people are doing. how often for 9 ball should have been my origonal q.
 
handicap system

there was a post half a year or so ago with a chart for players can anyone remember it
 
iamgoingto said:
ok cool...i know u say this is hard to do but what about 9 ball. i play nine ball, i dont really play straight pool i just thought i would ask to see what the people are doing. how often for 9 ball should have been my origonal q.
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Just got done watching it again this evening (after the post below)... corrections in red.

Watched Joe Tucker's Racking Secrets DVD last night... and on it, he recommends practicing your 9-ball and 10-ball run-out skills by doing the following:

For a total of 10 racks, rack your own 10-ball racks... break 'em up... and then take ball-in-hand on the shot after the break... count the number of balls you make each rack... one point for each... when you miss, re-rack and keeping breaking/playing until a total of 10 racks are complete.

For ranking yourself, he had something along the following (iirc):

10-20(19) total points... recreational player/novice (social/beginner)
21-30 (20-29).................... D player
31-40 (30-39).................... C player
41-50 (40-49).................... B player
51-60 (50-59).................... A player
61-70 (60-69).................... SS
71-80.................... semi-pro
81+ (70+)....................... pro

I remembered it fairly well. :-)
 
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my friend takashi told me about that once, i didn't remember it until i read this

i gotta give it a shot tonight
 
so with this 10 ball rack thing do i have to go in order?or just call all my pockets in any particular order. in order right? becuase it seems kinda easy if it were any shot i wanted to shoot. Either way...still wondering about 9 ball. ONe run out for every 4 racks? is that a b? or 3? or 5? still wondering...
 
iamgoingto said:
so with this 10 ball rack thing do i have to go in order?or just call all my pockets in any particular order. in order right? becuase it seems kinda easy if it were any shot i wanted to shoot. Either way...still wondering about 9 ball. ONe run out for every 4 racks? is that a b? or 3? or 5? still wondering...
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Yes... the 10-ball rack thing... in order. :rolleyes:

Re 9-ball... I've never heard a person's speed being defined in terms of rack run outs that way.

IMO, the best way is to match up with some known local players and play 'em... and test yourself against the competition. The 10-ball rack thing is pure offense. Playing competition brings in the other elements of the game... breaking, playing safeties and kicking/jumping.

If you play the local competition, there'll still be a local flavor to your rating... but isn't that good enuf?????
 
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