Backers....stories?

[OldHasBeen]

Oh, I 've done that also.... But

Well, let me introduce you to a third type of backer. Some of us stake our horses because, although we realize we probably have the worst of it in the long run, we can afford the stake many, many times over and just want to give a player or two with a modest income a chance to make some dough. We're not stupid and we're not suckers, we're just benefactors of pool that have the financial means to give a player or two an extra chance to make a better income.

I have done that also more than once.
The only difference is that I was not a backer or playing the part of one.
But I did have the necessary confidence in the player’s talents and the trust in his character - SO -
I just simply made AN UNANNOUNCED INTEREST FREE LOAN.

TY & GL

 

[JAM]

...I just simply made AN UNANNOUNCED INTEREST FREE LOAN.

Though you do risk never getting paid back, I think that is the best course of action in some scenarios. Gambling-addicted players just cannot help themselves, risking every dime in their pocket to keep "it" going.

This thread reminds me of an incident which still has my mind boggled as it pertains to backers. The names have been withheld to protect the innocent AND not so innocent.

Here’s the cast of characters. Player A ended up in the finals of a small weekly 9-ball tournament. Player A snatched the hot seat, but didn’t feel like waiting around. So he approached each player remaining in the event and asked if they would be agreeable to a 50/50 split of first- and second-place monies, $140 apiece, so that he could depart, and they all agreed. Player A leaves with his 140 bucks, and now enters Player B who received the other half.

At the conclusion of the tournament, Player B wants action and begins to bark at prospective clients. Player C is a regular at this pool room and knows the tables well and decides to give Player B what he wants, a race to 11, playing even, for a three jellybeans. Player B is backed by Player D. Player B wins and splits the winnings with Player D.

Player D, a lover of all games, enjoys card games on the rail. He found himself a straight-up Texas Hold’em game against Player E and offers Player B a 40-percent piece of his action. Player E is quite inebriated and pulled up two jellybeans winner.

Player C and Player B begin to bark once more, and to make things really complicated, Player C brings in a new partner, Player F, and he proposes to play a partner game of one-pocket against Player B and Player D for two jellybeans. Player D once again agrees to back himself and Player B. After they lost the first set, Player B wants to continue. Player D is a little reluctant, but Player B says he’ll stand good for 50 percent of the next set. It wasn’t pretty, and Players D and B lost once more for another two jellybeans.

Player E, out of the clear blue, walks up to Player B and offers to play him a set for a jellybean, even. He lost three sets rather quickly, stuffing the pockets of Player B.

Player E then switches horses and decides to back Player B against a stranger, Player G. Player B spotted Player G the world, 12-6 on his break and 12-5 on Player B’s break in one-hole, without ever having seen him play, and thus lost three sets for two jellybeans apiece.

Player D then comes over to Player B to collect his monies owed from the previous set involving Players C and F and as well the 40 percent of the Texas Hold'em game losings, to which Player B immediately paid.

I am still wondering who came out ahead between Players A through G.

JAM

 

[Shorty]

That story had to involve Scooter or Tater...heck they ain't no way it couldn't HA HA

Shorty

 

[boti2634]

Rosie

While we're on the subjects of backers and large sums of money in Detroit....

Does anyone out there know of a gentleman nicknamed "Rosie"? The stories about him going off for ridiculous sums of money are now approaching urban legend status. It's my understanding that he passed away several years ago, but I still hear tales from time to time with his name involved. I was just wondering if anyone could confirm or deny any of these stories.

Thanks!

Boti2634

 

[stevelomako]

While we're on the subjects of backers and large sums of money in Detroit....

Does anyone out there know of a gentleman nicknamed "Rosie"? The stories about him going off for ridiculous sums of money are now approaching urban legend status. It's my understanding that he passed away several years ago, but I still hear tales from time to time with his name involved. I was just wondering if anyone could confirm or deny any of these stories.

Thanks!

Boti2634

Whatever the ridiculous amount of money they tell you...........ADD TO IT!

Would you like to beat a guy out of 4 million and take 1 for a settlement?

Would you like to be broke one afternoon and win a million dollars that evening from him?

If he blew $100,000 he got off cheap.

There were from 5-10 people involved with the money all the time when Bill was playing. People would fight to rack the balls whenever he was playing someone cause you'd probably get a few thousand for your work.

I went for donuts and coffee one night, Paul B gave me a hundred, then Freddie S gives me a hundred even though I argue I have plenty and I'm heading out and Rosie gives me a hundred (everybody about has a coronary cause he was such a cheap SOB, kinda funny, a guy blows millions and he's cheap). I get 6 dozen donuts and 24 large coffee's.....the stuff doesn't make it past the first table before it's all gone.......they swarmed over me like locust when I hit the door........Paul gets nothing, Freddie gets nothing and Rosie gets nothing. I went back for their's even though they told me forget it.

There's probably only one guy that has anything left from the money Bill lost, the racetracks got everybody else's money.

 

[supergreenman]

Though you do risk never getting paid back, I think that is the best course of action in some scenarios. Gambling-addicted players just cannot help themselves, risking every dime in their pocket to keep "it" going.

This thread reminds me of an incident which still has my mind boggled as it pertains to backers. The names have been withheld to protect the innocent AND not so innocent.

Here’s the cast of characters. Player A ended up in the finals of a small weekly 9-ball tournament. Player A snatched the hot seat, but didn’t feel like waiting around. So he approached each player remaining in the event and asked if they would be agreeable to a 50/50 split of first- and second-place monies, $140 apiece, so that he could depart, and they all agreed. Player A leaves with his 140 bucks, and now enters Player B who received the other half.

At the conclusion of the tournament, Player B wants action and begins to bark at prospective clients. Player C is a regular at this pool room and knows the tables well and decides to give Player B what he wants, a race to 11, playing even, for a three jellybeans. Player B is backed by Player D. Player B wins and splits the winnings with Player D.

Player D, a lover of all games, enjoys card games on the rail. He found himself a straight-up Texas Hold’em game against Player E and offers Player B a 40-percent piece of his action. Player E is quite inebriated and pulled up two jellybeans winner.

Player C and Player B begin to bark once more, and to make things really complicated, Player C brings in a new partner, Player F, and he proposes to play a partner game of one-pocket against Player B and Player D for two jellybeans. Player D once again agrees to back himself and Player B. After they lost the first set, Player B wants to continue. Player D is a little reluctant, but Player B says he’ll stand good for 50 percent of the next set. It wasn’t pretty, and Players D and B lost once more for another two jellybeans.

Player E, out of the clear blue, walks up to Player B and offers to play him a set for a jellybean, even. He lost three sets rather quickly, stuffing the pockets of Player B.

Player E then switches horses and decides to back Player B against a stranger, Player G. Player B spotted Player G the world, 12-6 on his break and 12-5 on Player B’s break in one-hole, without ever having seen him play, and thus lost three sets for two jellybeans apiece.

Player D then comes over to Player B to collect his monies owed from the previous set involving Players C and F and as well the 40 percent of the Texas Hold'em game losings, to which Player B immediately paid.

I am still wondering who came out ahead between Players A through G.

JAM

Holy Alphabet batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[freddy the beard]

Detroit Whitey

Eddie Detroit Whitey Beuchene was a well-known backer abuser. He got dumping a backer, or playing on the square so mixed up, that one time when he was drunk, and shooting at the nineball, he couldnt remember if he was supposed to make it or miss it!

the Beard

Bank on, brother. Old school pool.

 

[ironman]

Eddie Detroit Whitey Beuchene was a well-known backer abuser. He got dumping a backer, or playing on the square so mixed up, that one time when he was drunk, and shooting at the nineball, he couldnt remember if he was supposed to make it or miss it!

the Beard

Bank on, brother. Old school pool.

That's hilarious! I've heard some crazy stories about Detroit Whitey.
June Hager beat that Rosie out of a pretty good chunk one time as well I heard. Seems like it was 2-300 K or something like that?

 

[vagabond]

While we're on the subjects of backers and large sums of money in Detroit....

Does anyone out there know of a gentleman nicknamed "Rosie"? The stories about him going off for ridiculous sums of money are now approaching urban legend status. It's my understanding that he passed away several years ago, but I still hear tales from time to time with his name involved. I was just wondering if anyone could confirm or deny any of these stories.

Thanks!

Boti2634

Grady Mathews in his book ``bet high kiss low`` mentioned about Rosie loosing (life time) around 50 million dollars.

 

[jnav447]

A local backer who had made some $ backing players won 2 or 3K backing Santos Sambojan, giving Ginky the 7, and kinda overestimated how good Santos is. They then went and played one of the toughest shortstops in Florida, giving similar weight (rotating 6,7) and went 100%, no cabfare left, busted. That was about 5 years ago, and I haven't seen the guy back anyone since. Thing about backing is that if you go off huge one time, it's REALLY hard to recoup, especially when you're not getting 100% return on your money. Only successful backer I've run into was a guy from the Carolinas who made a TON taking Coltraine around the country when no one knew who he was. Just about every backer I know is a guy with plenty of money who just likes the action, and knows that it's not a smart gamble but doesn't care. Hey, I've backed people a few times in small money games just to create action. Without the backers, the good players will seldom, if ever, match up - so I'll drink a beer to the backers any day.