Bar Rules Bandit Strikes Again!!!!

hang-the-9 said:
Happens all the time, I played C and B players that did not know you can use any ball in a combo with an open table. That's actually one rule that I can see people that don't play much not knowing.
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It's funny, sometimes I am so focused on trying to see the best potential layout on the table, that I occasionally forget the any ball combo possibility when making my decision. Then I have that "Doh!" moment, and remember all the potential shots, at least for a while :p
 
I usually play stupid and give them a passive aggressive jab. They usually dont get it because they are pretty dim. Then I get all fired up, make sure i dont miss and smoke the hell out of em!!! That will wipes that shit eating grin off their faces :grin-devilish:
 
i once got into a argument because my object ball touched the rail as it was going in the corner pocket! he said I never called that it would touch a rail :eek:
 
The last time my wife and I were in Vegas we were at Best Billiards playing on one of the 2 7ft Diamonds next to some younger kids. One of them was talking smack to his buddies telling them to play for $10 a game but neither one of them would play him for money so I told him I'd play. He refused saying he was watching me and I'm too good so I told him to play my wife which he jumped all over. They start playing and she makes one of her balls off of his and he says she can't do that it has to go clean, my wife started to argue it but I told her to go along she would win anyways. She wins the first game and he asks to play again to win his money back. We said ok so my wife breaks. She scratches and he takes ball in hand behind the line. A couple shots later he tries to kick at one of his balls and misses everything. My wife grabs the cue ball and places it up table by one of her balls and he jumps up and asks her what she's doing. She explains he didn't hit his ball so it was ball in hand anywhere. He says "oh yeah, you must be playing espn rules" I almost fell out my seat I was laughing so hard. I told him she watches the ladies play on espn so she knows all the rules, playing along. She gets down to the 8 misses and scratches in the side. He rakes the balls and starts high 5'n his friends. She looks confused but I gave her the let it slide look. I asked him to play me now since he's the champ and he agrees. I beat him 2 games and he quits.

Long story short, people who don't follow pool or play seriously have all kinds of rules. I'll usually just play along since they're usually not very good anyways. Makes for some good stories later too so whatever buddy play your "bar" rules I'll play along.
 
Rules...yes they do vary. I think that if you are playing in a location that has a strong League presents, you might find some standardization in the rules...if, before you start, you ask what rules apply and the answer is BCA, WPA, APA or some other league rule, you might be OK, but if your opponent says Straight Eight Bar Rules, you're going to run into problems. Because there are no standard Straight Eight Bar Rules. There are so many variables you would spend an hour trying to sort them all out. The worst part of the Straight Eight Bar Rules is when you make a shot and your opponent says "that's not a legal shot". Those rules will pop up as they happen and there aint much you can do about it. And, ususally, if you ask about it...like in the OP example, you ask before you shoot the mixed combo, the answer will obviously be "no you can't"...every time...especially if your opponent sees it will be to your advantage.

When I play and the rules are Straight Eight Bar Rules, I call everything...every kiss, every rail (even the one that slide down the rail adjacent to the pocket), every combo (hitting my ball first of course). Keep playing long enough and you might catch some rules that you can take advantage of.

I once played some yahoo last pocket eight ball. No safeties allowed and call everything. So, without ball-in-hand and no penalties for hitting his ball first, I started making all his balls so he would not have a good shot to make his last ball and the eight ball in the same pocket. He got pretty PO'd and after a couple $10 games, he quit. Of course he called me a cheater, but I was just taking advantage of his rules.

In summary, you'll never know all the rules unless you agree to play one of the 'official' league rules (APA, BCA, WPA, etc).

L8R...Ken
 
Mr. Wiggles said:
Black Cat : Lots of crazy rules in bars. Goes with the territory. My all time favorite is the girl (blonde) as serious as a heart attack told me I RAN INTO her balls! Those are my balls! You can't move them around! It grew quite a crowd around the table and she was so good looking I just went along with it and everybody laughed their asses off. If I hit her balls of course I would let her shoot. I squeaked out a win! Life is too short to worry about the nits you run into.
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I got an LOL out of that one.:thumbup: Glad you had fun with it.
 
LucasBilliards said:
The last time my wife and I were in Vegas we were at Best Billiards playing on one of the 2 7ft Diamonds next to some younger kids. One of them was talking smack to his buddies telling them to play for $10 a game but neither one of them would play him for money so I told him I'd play. He refused saying he was watching me and I'm too good so I told him to play my wife which he jumped all over. They start playing and she makes one of her balls off of his and he says she can't do that it has to go clean, my wife started to argue it but I told her to go along she would win anyways. She wins the first game and he asks to play again to win his money back. We said ok so my wife breaks. She scratches and he takes ball in hand behind the line. A couple shots later he tries to kick at one of his balls and misses everything. My wife grabs the cue ball and places it up table by one of her balls and he jumps up and asks her what she's doing. She explains he didn't hit his ball so it was ball in hand anywhere. He says "oh yeah, you must be playing espn rules" I almost fell out my seat I was laughing so hard. I told him she watches the ladies play on espn so she knows all the rules, playing along. She gets down to the 8 misses and scratches in the side. He rakes the balls and starts high 5'n his friends. She looks confused but I gave her the let it slide look. I asked him to play me now since he's the champ and he agrees. I beat him 2 games and he quits.

Long story short, people who don't follow pool or play seriously have all kinds of rules. I'll usually just play along since they're usually not very good anyways. Makes for some good stories later too so whatever buddy play your "bar" rules I'll play along.
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That's probably the most common rule no matter where I've played.
 
ShootingArts said:
Some bar rules had all balls neutral when the table was open, including the eight. Some I could use the eight but not a stripe to pocket a solid or vice-versa.
One of the more interesting rules was that the eight ball could be pocketed during the same shot as the last ball in your set. You had to call the eight and it had to go in after the object ball. If it went in first you lost.

Not too many years back a young man came up wanting to play me when I was practicing on the only nine footer around, a horribly ratty old big G in a bar. I knew the rules would be interesting after the first time he scratched. He picked up the cue ball and hummed it around the table. "Around and around it goes, where it stops nobody knows!"

Hu
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LOL, That's a good one. I take this kind of stuff in stride and some times it turns out to be a fun game. Besides, if I wanted a serious game I wouldn't be looking in a bar for one anyhow.

My favorite was a time, in a bar, I was playing this guy for drinks. He keeps making up these rules as we go and I keep asking him is there anything else? Every time the answer is no until I make the next shot and then there is a new rule. Finally I get down to the 8 ball, I call it in the corner and shoot. The eight rattles the pocket a bit but drops right where I called it.
Sure enough this moron jumps up and yells " Yeesss, I'll have a Bud Light"
I ask what he is talking about and he say I didn't call a bank shot! I explain to him that it was not a bank shot but his mind cannot be changed. As far as he was concerned if it touches a rail it IS a bank!

So I get him his beer and with a smile I ask him if he would like to play again, now that I got the rules down.;)
 
Cdryden said:
LOL, That's a good one. I take this kind of stuff in stride and some times it turns out to be a fun game. Besides, if I wanted a serious game I wouldn't be looking in a bar for one anyhow.

My favorite was a time, in a bar, I was playing this guy for drinks. He keeps making up these rules as we go and I keep asking him is there anything else? Every time the answer is no until I make the next shot and then there is a new rule. Finally I get down to the 8 ball, I call it in the corner and shoot. The eight rattles the pocket a bit but drops right where I called it.
Sure enough this moron jumps up and yells " Yeesss, I'll have a Bud Light"
I ask what he is talking about and he say I didn't call a bank shot! I explain to him that it was not a bank shot but his mind cannot be changed. As far as he was concerned if it touches a rail it IS a bank!
So I get him his beer and with a smile I ask him if he would like to play again, now that I got the rules down.;)
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I bet you could twist that around on him pretty easily. If he slides a ball down the rail and it hits the inside of the pocket and goes in, that's the same bank shot you just lost on. Could get you back to the table every other shot. But be sure to call your banks.

L8R...Ken
 
Husler said:
i once got into a argument because my object ball touched the rail as it was going in the corner pocket! he said I never called that it would touch a rail :eek:
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I did that on the 8 one time and lost 5-bucks.

Welcome to bar pool, not to be confused with playing pool on a bar box.
Bar pool is fun at times, like back in 1971 at the Alameda Tavern in Denver, when my friend cueballed a guy in the head and knocked him out.
 
Simple answer...

Black Cat 5791 said:
So I'm down at the local spot, put my quarters in the table guy breaks and scratches. I take the cue ball out of the chute and survey the layout of the table and determine that the best ball option is low however I couldn't get to the low ball I wanted directly so I played a combination using a high ball as the table was still open.

Well that was when all hell broke loose, my opponent starts saying that I can't use a stripe to play the solid even though it was an open table.

Has anyone heard this BS before, that Sh!t took the proverbial cake!!!

I eventually proved my point but gee whiz!!! Anybody else heard this BS before?

Black Cat :cool:
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Print a copy of the World Standardized Rules of 8-Ball and keep it in your cue case. You can find them on the Internet.
 
Husler said:
i once got into a argument because my object ball touched the rail as it was going in the corner pocket! he said I never called that it would touch a rail :eek:
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I had beat a guy about 8 straight games for small stakes back many years ago and he tried to pull that one out, stating "that's a baby bank" when my 8 caught some rail before going. I said, you win the table we can play call your "baby banks." Baby bank... hadn't heard that one before or since.
 
david(tx) said:
I believe if you play somebody in most places in country where a scratch occurs and you have to shoot out of the kitchen they will also have the no carom off opponents balls , those are bar rules with some variation across the country. The sticky one is call pocket or call shot . Call shot can be manipulated so much i would never play by that rule , especially when your not a regular .
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Odd you should say that because at that bar we basically play call your shot but when Bob & I play, it turns into call your shot, but call it clean.
 
SKUNKBOY said:
I bet you could twist that around on him pretty easily. If he slides a ball down the rail and it hits the inside of the pocket and goes in, that's the same bank shot you just lost on. Could get you back to the table every other shot. But be sure to call your banks.

L8R...Ken
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Yeah, Once I got his rules down I used them to my advantage. It was very hard for him to get out of my safeties when he has to call every rail and ball it touches along the way.;)

I got several beers for free that night, more than I wanted actually but I wasn't about to quit winner!:cool:
 
Husler said:
i once got into a argument because my object ball touched the rail as it was going in the corner pocket! he said I never called that it would touch a rail :eek:
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Some at the bar play that, but only on kick shots. In others words, are you calling one or two rails, two or three? It may seem nit picky, but it depends where the ball is near the pocket & how the shot is being attemped because a bad mis can still pocket the ball off the extra rail. I know you know this so this is not for you but for some of the others that may not know.

Regards,
 
ENGLISH! said:
Some at the bar play that, but only on kick shots. In others words, are you calling one or two rails, two or three? It may seem nit picky, but it depends where the ball is near the pocket & how the shot is being attemped because a bad mis can still pocket the ball off the extra rail. I know you know this so this is not for you but for some of the others that may not know.

Regards,
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Im pretty sure this isnt what he was talking about. Ive played a guy for $10 once in a bar. As I was shooting a ball into the corner, it grazed the long rail and of course still went in (huge buckets on a Valley) He jumps up and says its his turn! Says I didnt call it off the rail into the corner pocket. I couldnt believe what I was hearing. I gave him his $10 and went to the bar for another drink. Not worth the time or the effort. For those of you from the Houston area, this was at Monkey Bar in Kemah crica 2009.
 
I knew. I was just pointing out another situation. The thing about the guy you referred to is that he will do the same thing & the you can call it back on him. That really pisses them off.

But I'd rather have a good relaxing drink than an anoying game too.

Regards.
 
Donny Lutz said:
Print a copy of the World Standardized Rules of 8-Ball and keep it in your cue case. You can find them on the Internet.
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Already did that, they still argue that their rules are what matters there. It really just comes down to the fact that people only want to accept what they know.

Black Cat :cool:
 
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