Bar Rules Bandit Strikes Again!!!!
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stupidest rule I ever had called on me at a bar was this. I made my ball in the corner pocket but before it went the cue ball hit my opponents ball (after I contacted my ball) and pocketed it. Basically what they said was because I knocked their ball into the pocket before mine made it into the pocket it was their turn.
We didn't play that rule very long...
We didn't play that rule very long...
"you aren't in houston"
I can't remember the old bar rules in Big BR but a couple wouldn't be found in any rule book best I recall. While there are a lot of good people in Houston and I have friends there, it seemed that about three-fourths of the people that came to Baton Rouge from Houston were jackasses at the time. It gave me great pleasure when they complained that this wasn't how they played in Houston to tell them they weren't in Houston anymore. Undeniable and always stated in a flat firm tone of voice that left no room for discussion. My home court, my rules.
I never objected to whatever rules I tangled with on the road, I just insisted that we both had to play by the same rules. Funny how when the other player started making up rules as we went along often even the people he was with agreed with me when I turned one of his own new rules back on him. They would be snickering a bit behind their hands as old Jim Bob rolled out one new rule after another on the strange sucker then BAMM, when I remembered one of his rules at an awkward time for him the tables turned and they realized that maybe I wasn't quite as gullible as I seemed.
This and a few more threads going right now have me missing the good old days when times were rotten. It was a lot of fun if a wee bit dangerous to step into anyplace anywhere that had a pool table and make yourself to home.
Hu
I can't remember the old bar rules in Big BR but a couple wouldn't be found in any rule book best I recall. While there are a lot of good people in Houston and I have friends there, it seemed that about three-fourths of the people that came to Baton Rouge from Houston were jackasses at the time. It gave me great pleasure when they complained that this wasn't how they played in Houston to tell them they weren't in Houston anymore. Undeniable and always stated in a flat firm tone of voice that left no room for discussion. My home court, my rules.
I never objected to whatever rules I tangled with on the road, I just insisted that we both had to play by the same rules. Funny how when the other player started making up rules as we went along often even the people he was with agreed with me when I turned one of his own new rules back on him. They would be snickering a bit behind their hands as old Jim Bob rolled out one new rule after another on the strange sucker then BAMM, when I remembered one of his rules at an awkward time for him the tables turned and they realized that maybe I wasn't quite as gullible as I seemed.
This and a few more threads going right now have me missing the good old days when times were rotten. It was a lot of fun if a wee bit dangerous to step into anyplace anywhere that had a pool table and make yourself to home.
Hu
It always pays to check on the rules for where you are.Out here if you break and one of each goes down, the 1st ball down becomes your set and it is then the opponents turn as a ball opposite your set was potted.
If you break and it is an open table, you can only hit the ball type you nominate, solids or stripes.You can not play a stripe onto a solid carom .That is a deliberate foul and loss of turn.In some places there is a 2 shot penalty for fouls.
Different rules different places.
Neil
If you break and it is an open table, you can only hit the ball type you nominate, solids or stripes.You can not play a stripe onto a solid carom .That is a deliberate foul and loss of turn.In some places there is a 2 shot penalty for fouls.
Different rules different places.
Neil
Yeah, most people that don't play league or tournaments don't know that as long as the 8 is still on the table it's not loss of game so I usually won't argue it. Not worth the trouble.
I've actually always played that a scratch on the 8 ball IS loss of game. Even in league.
this is definitely tournament and league specific.
Banks
Banned
Already did that, they still argue that their rules are what matters there. It really just comes down to the fact that people only want to accept what they know.
Black Cat
Isn't this one the cause of the problem on both sides here? They argued for their rules, you argued for yours. You didn't want to accept theirs, they didn't want to accept yours.
I just like hitting em around, so I'll play whatever. It really only matters if there's something on it.
I offer this as the lifetime achievement award for ignorant bar rules. This one probably deserves its own thread.
I was playing in a bar tournament in north Atlanta. I won all the way through the winners bracket. I don't recall losing a single game the entire tournament. The final was a race to 3 and I was up 2 to 0. The very last game I broke and ran out to the 8 ball. The 8 ball was frozen to one of my opponents balls right in front of the corner pocket, perfect carom angle, no possible way to miss it.
I call 8 in the corner and my opponent jumps up and shouts you can't shoot that shot, 8 has got to go clean. Naturally my response was to call bullshit because the balls are frozen. He called over the guy who was running the tournament. He stood over the balls looking and you could see the wheels struggling to turn in his head as he had no idea what to do. Finally he just gave up and said 8 ball has go to go clean.
I just said fine, screw it, you guys can have it and I broke down my cue. Well, that left the tournament without resolution so no one wanted to see me walk out. They talked me into coming back and finishing the game. I came back to the table and did a slowroll kick off the short rail behind the 8 just enough to bump his ball loose. He was frozen behind the 8 ball in front of the corner pocket. Well, he asked for it. He made a lame kick and got nothing but air. I tapped in the 8 took the money and left.
I could have beat the guy one handed. Calling up rules was not going to save him. The thing I have against these so called straight 8, clean, no slop, whatever rules is where they come from. They come from losers. They are a collection of bullshit nitpicking things that somebody threw out at the last minute when they were about to lose a game.
I was playing in a bar tournament in north Atlanta. I won all the way through the winners bracket. I don't recall losing a single game the entire tournament. The final was a race to 3 and I was up 2 to 0. The very last game I broke and ran out to the 8 ball. The 8 ball was frozen to one of my opponents balls right in front of the corner pocket, perfect carom angle, no possible way to miss it.
I call 8 in the corner and my opponent jumps up and shouts you can't shoot that shot, 8 has got to go clean. Naturally my response was to call bullshit because the balls are frozen. He called over the guy who was running the tournament. He stood over the balls looking and you could see the wheels struggling to turn in his head as he had no idea what to do. Finally he just gave up and said 8 ball has go to go clean.
I just said fine, screw it, you guys can have it and I broke down my cue. Well, that left the tournament without resolution so no one wanted to see me walk out. They talked me into coming back and finishing the game. I came back to the table and did a slowroll kick off the short rail behind the 8 just enough to bump his ball loose. He was frozen behind the 8 ball in front of the corner pocket. Well, he asked for it. He made a lame kick and got nothing but air. I tapped in the 8 took the money and left.
I could have beat the guy one handed. Calling up rules was not going to save him. The thing I have against these so called straight 8, clean, no slop, whatever rules is where they come from. They come from losers. They are a collection of bullshit nitpicking things that somebody threw out at the last minute when they were about to lose a game.
Nw nj
I'll add to the odd and misunderstood.
Northwestern New Jersey, league of some kind, playing in the early late 90's early 2000's, 8ball.
Break and make was open table
The 8 COULD be used first in a combo at ANY time in the game.
Run down to the 8 and not make contact with it was loss of game.
I don't recall if you needed to call "ticks" during league but know they wanted to play that way at all other times including the whacky rules above.
Tony
I'll add to the odd and misunderstood.
Northwestern New Jersey, league of some kind, playing in the early late 90's early 2000's, 8ball.
Break and make was open table
The 8 COULD be used first in a combo at ANY time in the game.
Run down to the 8 and not make contact with it was loss of game.
I don't recall if you needed to call "ticks" during league but know they wanted to play that way at all other times including the whacky rules above.
Tony
I guess I'm the oddball here.
I would have just said ok, and shot something else.
I'm not going to get into a heated argument over something so silly. I think some people just go out looking for a fight. :wink:
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3 or 4 years ago I would have argued and been pissed. Now Im with you, just say ok or play someone else. I guess Im getting old. (Turn 30 this year)
3 or 4 years ago I would have argued and been pissed. Now Im with you, just say ok or play someone else. I guess Im getting old. (Turn 30 this year)
I got you by 15 so if I say your getting old then....
You dang whipper snapper.
I got you by 15 so if I say your getting old then....
You dang whipper snapper.
Lol. Thanks for the compliment. :thumbup:
tommyg0080
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I am a league player used to playing by league (VNEA) rules, so I HATE playing bar pool. I played a guy once who tried playing defense on me by just tapping one of his object balls and not hitting a rail. I tried arguing, to no avail, so instead of having ball-in-hand and clearing off the table, I was hooked with no shot.
The only thing I like about bar pool is totally dominating inferior opponents, but even that gets old.
The only thing I like about bar pool is totally dominating inferior opponents, but even that gets old.
tommyg0080
Registered
It used to be a loss in VNEA, up until around 2006 (give or take).
Still is a loss in APA,if I'm not mistaken.
Also,before joining a real league for the first time (APA) in January, I don't recall ever hearing about having to drive a ball to the rail after striking the object ball.
The best way to educate players is to get them to join a league,I think.
Well.............maybe not. It will only teach them the rules of that specific league, and as we all know, various leagues have a widely varying amount of rules set up ONLY for that particular league.
There is no answer. Until pool is played under a single set of rules, there will always be arguments and controversy. I doubt this will ever happen in my lifetime.
Maniac