Barry or Gus?

paulybatz said:
playability?
Which play better would be the question too...or do you all not play with your botis? What a sin to talk to people who dont play with these cues!
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i used to alternate with my Gus and Barry when i got my new Barry.. now i only use the cue from Barry...

my personal opinion on the perspective of playability between the 2 cues i personally own and use regularly... the cue from barry is far superior ...

no disrespect to the cue from Gus.... also you have to consider the cue from Barry was made for me and my style of play after a 45 min discussion with Barry on my style and preferrences... the Gus was obviously meant for someone else...
 
I have a couple of Barry's cues and about 15 Gus' so I guess that gives you my opinion on which way to go.

I would buy a Gus all day long for 10K before I would pay that much for a Barry. Don't get me wrong, if a beautiful Barry came along I might come up with that number but so far I haven't paid anywhere near that for any of my Barry's.

For 10K you can get a very fancy Gus from the right seller, I just bought one that is very fancy for less than that number. I bought the cue right so if I had to sell it I think I could get over 12K.

My Gus cues have increased at a much higher rate then my Barry's and I would expect them to continue to increase at a higher rate in the future. Luckily it doesn't matter much to me because I have never sold a Gus in my life, I did trade a Gus for a Barry once though! That was a strange one because the Gus had an extremely skinny butt, and I had only paid 2K for it and the Barry was fancy so I traded.

I don't think you can go wrong with either cue if you wait and find a good deal. Recently I have seen some vendors charging way too much for Gus cues in my opinion.

Good Luck!
 
TheMarsMan said:
I have a couple of Barry's cues and about 15 Gus' so I guess that gives you my opinion on which way to go.

I would buy a Gus all day long for 10K before I would pay that much for a Barry. Don't get me wrong, if a beautiful Barry came along I might come up with that number but so far I haven't paid anywhere near that for any of my Barry's.

For 10K you can get a very fancy Gus from the right seller, I just bought one that is very fancy for less than that number. I bought the cue right so if I had to sell it I think I could get over 12K.

My Gus cues have increased at a much higher rate then my Barry's and I would expect them to continue to increase at a higher rate in the future. Luckily it doesn't matter much to me because I have never sold a Gus in my life, I did trade a Gus for a Barry once though! That was a strange one because the Gus had an extremely skinny butt, and I had only paid 2K for it and the Barry was fancy so I traded.

I don't think you can go wrong with either cue if you wait and find a good deal. Recently I have seen some vendors charging way too much for Gus cues in my opinion.

Good Luck!
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let's see this "fancy" Gus that you say you bought for under 10 g.
 
skins said:
you're being sarcastic right? if not then i'll tell you i think Barry's work has surpassed his fathers in design and execution making this question a very valid and interesting one. couple that with the fact that he will not make as many cues as his father did and it makes it even more intriguing. if it were for investment reasons i would take the fancier Barry because the G.S. you could buy today with that money will be worth around that same money years from now where as the fancy B.S. will only continue to rise. when there are no more Szamboti's being made the fancier B.S. will be worth considerably more that the plainer cue made by his father. for me, even if investment wasn't the motive, i would still take the fancier B.S.
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While you may be right, I see it from this point of view why buy a copy when you can own an original!!!!!!!!!;) With that said, and just to make sure that I am understood, in my opinion BS cues are mostly copies of his fathers designs. Now I am not saying they are junk in any way, but before I would spend the money for one of his cues it would have to be a BS original design. I think then it would be worth having.

Have a great day!!!!!!
 
10k on a Szamboti?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,better save up and get some more cash

both make (made) fine playing cues and its tough to decide. if yr in a decision making time come by and ill let ya hit a couple of balls with a Gus and 2 Barrys.
 
billfishhead said:
10k on a Szamboti?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,better save up and get some more cash

both make (made) fine playing cues and its tough to decide. if yr in a decision making time come by and ill let ya hit a couple of balls with a Gus and 2 Barrys.
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10k certainly should be enough for a Szamboti,either a Gus or Barry.:rolleyes:
 
skins said:
let's see this "fancy" Gus that you say you bought for under 10 g.
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After my post I realized I hadn't taken any pictures of my entire Szamboti collection.

Here is an overview of my cues, the two Barry's are at the bottom.

The cue I was refering to is the third one from the left, I am not the greatest photographer though.

BTW in my opinion the tone of your post is very poor, I think a much better way to ask would of been:

Can you please post pictures of the Gus cue you were referring to that you bought for under 10K?

Thanks!
 

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TheMarsMan said:
After my post I realized I hadn't taken any pictures of my entire Szamboti collection.

Here is an overview of my cues, the two Barry's are at the bottom.
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Brilliant collection ... thanks for sharing it with us...

if you ever think of selling any, would appreciate if you thought of me..

thanks
kam
 
An awesome collection of cues.
Thanks for taking the time to refresh the forum with a picture of the latest family of Szamboti cues.
Simply breath taking.
Would love to know if and when one come available for adoption.
Have a Barry now would love to have a Gus.

Sincerely,
Myron
 
TheMarsMan said:
After my post I realized I hadn't taken any pictures of my entire Szamboti collection.

Here is an overview of my cues, the two Barry's are at the bottom.

The cue I was refering to is the third one from the left, I am not the greatest photographer though.

BTW in my opinion the tone of your post is very poor, I think a much better way to ask would of been:

Can you please post pictures of the Gus cue you were referring to that you bought for under 10K?

Thanks!
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Damn nice to see this collection stateside.. ie not in Japan. :D No offense meant to anyone over there.

JV
 
TheMarsMan said:
After my post I realized I hadn't taken any pictures of my entire Szamboti collection.

Here is an overview of my cues, the two Barry's are at the bottom.

The cue I was refering to is the third one from the left, I am not the greatest photographer though.

BTW in my opinion the tone of your post is very poor, I think a much better way to ask would of been:

Can you please post pictures of the Gus cue you were referring to that you bought for under 10K?

Thanks!
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i apologize for your take on my "tone" it wasn't meant to get you upset. i was thinking that your "fancy" Gus for under 10g must not be what you posted, "fancy" ,and i was right, it's a fairly plain Gus. i've owned and sold a few Gus's in my day and i think i have a pretty good idea of the market for them as well as Barry's cues. fairly plain ones you can get at around those prices but the ones with more inlay work, which is where the term fancy would come into play, are very hard to come by. my point is the only way you are going to get what i would consider to be a bottom end "fancy" G.S. maybe like the propeller design/box cue in the middle of you picture, is if you know someone who likes you, the seller doesn't know what he has or doesn't care, or you steal it. except for that cue the rest of the cues there are fairly plain to moderately inlaid and i would not consider them fancy but they all are very nice and at the end of the day still Szamboti's. ;)
 
these are top line "fancy" G.S.'s albeit of the "uber" variety. they don't have to be quite this fancy for me to put them in the fancy category though.

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manwon said:
While you may be right, I see it from this point of view why buy a copy when you can own an original!!!!!!!!!;) With that said, and just to make sure that I am understood, in my opinion BS cues are mostly copies of his fathers designs. Now I am not saying they are junk in any way, but before I would spend the money for one of his cues it would have to be a BS original design. I think then it would be worth having.

Have a great day!!!!!!
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if you think that Barry "mostly copies" his fathers designs then you don't know much about nor have seen many of Barry's cues. Barry stays within the Szamboti style and tradition, which anyone who owns a piece of his work is grateful for, yet brings the design and workmanship to another level. for god's sake he did work with his dad well before making his own cues so the influence and direction was instilled at an early age. i would have loved to have had tutelage like that.
 
My First Szamboti "barry"

I always wanted a Szamboti either Gus or Barry, finally I have a chance to own one now is an Barry Szamboti, when i got the Barry I took it to the local pool hall and play with it for about 5 hours, hit sweet and soild. I found a seller in my area want to sell his old Gus Szamboti not to fancy 4 MOP notch diamonds in 4 points, 4 maple windows at the butt sleve , 4 MOP notch diamonds with 2 dots on top and buttom between those window that I want to buy this Gus Szamboti also just own one of each:D, here is a picture of my Barry Szamboti.
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i don't think barry will ever equal the playability of his dad's cues. i can't compare the workmanship since i have only seen a few of barrys cues, so do you want a cue that plays good, or a cue that looks good. i personally will always prefer the play versus looks. gus made me several cues over the years and i can honestly say i have never found a cue that plays as good as a gus. mike johnson is the only one that comes close. just my 2 cents.

skip coburger
 
skipc said:
i don't think barry will ever equal the playability of his dad's cues. i can't compare the workmanship since i have only seen a few of barrys cues, so do you want a cue that plays good, or a cue that looks good. i personally will always prefer the play versus looks. gus made me several cues over the years and i can honestly say i have never found a cue that plays as good as a gus. mike johnson is the only one that comes close. just my 2 cents.

skip coburger
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If you have only seen a few of Barry cues and cant compare the workmanship then how can you compare the hit of his cues and say its inferior?
 
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