Dustin Morris, is a 100% jackoff. Got a bighead and for no reason, hes noone.
Dog we gotta move on from the Dustin Morris thing. Either that or go and play him a set. I like option 2.
Dustin Morris, is a 100% jackoff. Got a bighead and for no reason, hes noone.
Dog we gotta move on from the Dustin Morris thing. Either that or go and play him a set. I like option 2.
You know, it is my experience that normally the guy that wins any division is a guy that should be bumped or what ever. I like how folks on here want to hop on the old high horse like they wouldn't do the same. Or that they would have outed them. these guys took advantage no doubt, but it's not there job to make sure the BCA classes them right. Justin
Here is my experience. It's been eight years since I was last "qualified" to play in the BCAPL Master's event in Vegas. In those eight years, I played in a variety of events. Once in the Seniors. Once in the Super Seniors. Six times in the Open. Was fortunate in 2008 to finish third in the Open Scotch Doubles event with my playing partner from Rochester. Other than that one event, never once made it to the "big board" on the winners side. My big steal was $200 in the Open a couple of years ago.
During the eight year span, my guess is I invested nearly two thousand dollars a year just to play in the Nationals in May. The amount doesn't cover the necessary trips to Vegas to qualify for the team event with my friends from the LV Cue Club. That's a different subject.
This year, in keeping with my past patterns, I again made it to the last round on the small board and lost. Joked with a friend "got my $200, now I can go play golf! Well, I won my next match. And the next and the next and so on. Wound up 5/6. Was as astonished as my opponents. It was just my day(s)!
Then the $hit started. How could the BCAPL allow me to play in the Open? "You're just too good". "You cheated". Then the crap about the disqualifications started. Wish I'd have never heard about it. I was perfectly happy till then. The joy of my best ever event was drowned in a sea of crap from both my friends and foes alike.
Figure I'm still out at least ten thousand in expenses. Just like every other player who takes the trip to National finals in Vegas. Regardless of sanctioning body! Just like in the casinos, the only one who always wins is the house.
Lyn
Sorry, forgot when CSI took over the BCA leagues, they made me play in the Master's event one year after my experience in the Seniors.
What about teams - how have you faired and how many repeat members were on your successful teams? Members that were listed on the roster - I don't care if they played or not.
In 2010 we were the "number two" team and finished top thirty two with the cast offs from the "number one" team. This year, our team was was comprised of Rocky Phipps (Advanced), Jim Moore (Open), Edgar Jackson (Open), Jim Milazzo (Open) and myself. Also on the roster but did not play was Jim Murphy (Open) and our sponsor and captain Dick Pickle (Open). As the story goes, we won the hot seat in the Open Mixed Team event only to be beaten twice by a team from Wisconsin. What has changed is all the rest of our team are now Advanced players. I advanced to the Masters because of my finish in the Open Singles. Forgot to mention. No players on this team were part of the 2010 team other than myself and Dick Pickle.
Hope it answered your question.
Lyn
Lyn - I know you are 68 years old and I pray I make it that long and if so, am in as good of shape as you are as I have no doubts that you are of sound mind and body. Either you are 'mis-remembering' or the BCA website is incorrect.
According to the BCA site, the 2010 team and the 2012 team were the exact same 5 players -- Edgar Jackson, Jimmy Moore, James Murphy, Dick Pickle, and Lyn Wechsler --- and Ray Galaviz was on the team in 2012 and Ricky White was on the team in 2010.
Bobby Pickle is American and a known Master or Grand Master level player and he was allowed to play in the Open division play it out and win and get paid.
In more recent times 2010 for example a guy called Nuno Santos from Portugal won the Open and got paid. That year a certain player by name of Dustin Gunia finished third in the Open division.
Dustin is a great guy and great player, I put him up there with Glen Atwell who is Grand Master level.
I just want to give you a couple of examples of players who should no way be in the Open division and they didn't sneak in.
The powers that be must have known they were way above the Open level but let them play out the tournament and get paid.
So for these guys from Taiwan that probably don't speak enough English to put up an argument to get paid, it just seems wrong not to pay them.
In my opinion once the tournament is over and the players were allowed to play the whole tournament and finish then they should get paid.
Well watchez, you would have to take that up with Dick Pickle. During the 2010 event Dan Schneider, Greg Kuhl (Master), myself and Ricky White played for sure. Really don't remember Jim Moore playing on that team but the BCAPL site says he did. Each team was allowed eight players on the roster. It is now ten. When Dick tells me I'm up, I play. Really didn't care who the "subs" for the team were. Only the guys that actually played EVERY round. If Edgar and Jim Murphy were rostered along with Dick, its news to me. Really didn't matter. None of the three ever played. As the team finished 33 - 48, none of our players were moved up. Some played again in 2011. That team did no better. Same 33 - 48.
If I remember correctly, the rules in 2010 were four Open players and one Master / Grand Master were allowed on each team. A total of seven or eight players were allowed on the roster. Three members of the original team must play every round. The other players must come from the same league system (769).
For 2012, the rules changed so only two members of the original team must play every round. Only one Advanced player was allowed. The balance of the team must be from the same league system (769). As virtually every other "quality" league player was already on the Advanced player list for 2012, we formed our team with the "leftovers". Some guys chose to play with other teams. The Best Billiards team was actually another Cue Club team sponsored by Best.
If you think we slipped one past Bill Stock, you better get out the boxing gloves. Only thing I can tell you is what happens when team chemisty kicks in. We actually enjoyed playing with each other. Not sure why this is so important to you. Do you think we cheated? Did we abuse the rules? Did the BCAPL make an error? My preference is reading the rules and working within that framework. To paraphrase the last knight of the crusades, "we chose ... correctly".
Incidentally, through an error in communication between the BCAPL and our league operator, only Ron Allen, Jason Bryan and Ralph Patterson played in the nine ball team event. I was rostered but never played. Would have loved to see the outcome with Ricky and myself also playing. Oh well.
Lyn
Lyn - You can take it up with Dick Pickle. You are the one that posted here, glorifying your victory.
You are the one that posted inaccurate facts. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. First paragraph you state "Dick tells me I'm up, I play". Then you end it "Only thing I can tell you is what happens when team chemisty kicks in. We actually enjoyed playing with each other". You enjoyed it so much that you couldn't remember who was on your team? That can only bring the response from me of - Get Real.
You actually might be in the clear because I think back in 2010, coming in 33-48 didnt mean you had to break up your team. Can't find the older set of rules online. I just wanted to show that the Las Vegas league has a successful rotation across years.