BCA Rules Question:

[little gambler]

So in a match the other night, our team traveled to a bar with absolutely the worst lighting in the circuit, terrible table, terrible cloth and so forth (to be honest I don't think this table has been covered in 5-7 years of bar play). I would say that over half the missed shots were players on both teams not hitting either the cue ball or object ball where they thought they were hitting for or at.

My question is this, when we return to play there, I plan on outfitting both arms and my head with a miners LED lights to see where the hell I'm actually hitting and where I'm walking when it's my turn to shoot. Would I be in violation of any BCA rule if I use my own lighting system for my own shooting? I'm in no way going to be shining it into my opponents eyes, line of sight or any other sharking method it could be used for, just mainly to see where I'm hitting/going.

 

[Double-Dave]

Lol.

Surely there has to be some minimum standard the tables must meet.
Simply tell your LO about the situation and offer to play the games against
these opponents in your home room until the equipment is improved.

Table lighting isn't exactly rocket science, having new cloth put on isn't
cheap and most people can't do it themselves but to hang a decent light?

Regards, Dave

p.s. If you do go for the mining equipment, please make sure someone
makes a video.

 

[RiverCity]

Before you go all head lamps etc..... have you tried brighter light bulbs?

 

[ctyhntr]

Does your league have a website where you can reference the rules? Before the start of the match, have you considered checking with the other team?

 

[sbpoolleague]

So in a match the other night, our team traveled to a bar with absolutely the worst lighting in the circuit, terrible table, terrible cloth and so forth (to be honest I don't think this table has been covered in 5-7 years of bar play). I would say that over half the missed shots were players on both teams not hitting either the cue ball or object ball where they thought they were hitting for or at.

My question is this, when we return to play there, I plan on outfitting both arms and my head with a miners LED lights to see where the hell I'm actually hitting and where I'm walking when it's my turn to shoot. Would I be in violation of any BCA rule if I use my own lighting system for my own shooting? I'm in no way going to be shining it into my opponents eyes, line of sight or any other sharking method it could be used for, just mainly to see where I'm hitting/going.

I can guarantee you that your exact scenario is NOT in the BCAPL rules or the rules addendum. But it is an interesting question. For years my team has played in bars with horrible lighting. No one has gone so far as to bring their own lighting source.

HERE IS MY OPINION AS A LEAGUE OPERATOR
Go ahead and use whatever lighting source you want. However, you must make that same lighting source available to your opponent if they also want to use it.

 

[ctyhntr]

My house league has a rule, must use provided equipment. A couple of players prefer the magic rack. It's not an issue if both players agree, and must make it available to my opponent.

I can guarantee you that your exact scenario is NOT in the BCAPL rules or the rules addendum. But it is an interesting question. For years my team has played in bars with horrible lighting. No one has gone so far as to bring their own lighting source.

HERE IS MY OPINION AS A LEAGUE OPERATOR
Go ahead and use whatever lighting source you want. However, you must make that same lighting source available to your opponent if they also want to use it.

 

[Scott Lee]

Baloney! You can wear a bike light, which will give you the light you're looking for, when shooting. You are under NO obligation to share the light with your opponents, although it would be a good idea to share with your teammates. Let your opponents bring their own lights.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

HERE IS MY OPINION AS A LEAGUE OPERATOR
Go ahead and use whatever lighting source you want. However, you must make that same lighting source available to your opponent if they also want to use it.

 

[tucson9ball]

Years ago, I was on a traveling team and we came across a similar problem. We noticed they had 40w bulbs in there lights. We simply brought 75w bulbs the next visit and installed for free. Easy solution......

 

[RiverCity]

Before you go all head lamps etc..... have you tried brighter light bulbs?

Years ago, I was on a traveling team and we came across a similar problem. We noticed they had 40w bulbs in there lights. We simply brought 75w bulbs the next visit and installed for free. Easy solution......

Shhhhhhhh I changed my mind, I want to see people wearing mining helmets while they play...... the old carbide lamped ones. :grin-square:

 

[little gambler]

Lights

The changing of the blubs is not an option, although this league follows BCA rules and that is the main structure of them, they have other non BCA rules added on fouls on all balls if touched and etc, etc.

This other team is well aware of the equipment we use at our home bar, such as good lights over the tables, new cloth once a year, new rails every other year. In fact I would say the lights are so good at our home bar they actually fade the cloth over it's life as its so bright above the tables.

In fact the other team goes out of their way to make this place as uncomfortable to play at while a visiting team shows. I'd say the doors are left open just before we arrive, temp is around 65-63 inside, lights in the three bulb light above the table are the shitty florescent 33 watt, and the suggestion of using a red dot ball last week- they looked at our team if we were from Mars suggesting we use something other than their 12 oz cue ball. So just supplying free bulbs to them is not an option, complaining to the LO is not an option as the LO really does not care for the team I come from as it's the strongest team by far.

Sure we can just suck it up and play through it all, and we did this past week, but next time we go there, I'd like to pull something out of my bag of tricks to counter balance the conditions they are providing for us and themselves. I can't find anything under auxiliary lighting that I will be providing for myself in the rules as of right now in our "special rules" that are in addition to the standard rules of the BCA.............

 

[pdcue]

So in a match the other night, our team traveled to a bar with absolutely the worst lighting in the circuit, terrible table, terrible cloth and so forth (to be honest I don't think this table has been covered in 5-7 years of bar play). I would say that over half the missed shots were players on both teams not hitting either the cue ball or object ball where they thought they were hitting for or at.

My question is this, when we return to play there, I plan on outfitting both arms and my head with a miners LED lights to see where the hell I'm actually hitting and where I'm walking when it's my turn to shoot. Would I be in violation of any BCA rule if I use my own lighting system for my own shooting? I'm in no way going to be shining it into my opponents eyes, line of sight or any other sharking method it could be used for, just mainly to see where I'm hitting/going.

You need to play in a good poolroom.

Bar tables are to make bar owners money... not to make pool champions

Dale

 

[dvs]

Uncommon courtesy

I'd agree with Mr. Lee

I'd bring any equipment or extraneous devices that would make my teams playing experience as close to my home teams venue as possible.

Sounds like the team that plays out of this palace deserves the conditions they have.

Seems like you need a space heater, light source, likely a good bridge and possibly a decent rack. A red dot is also a good idea, but without consent of the other team, it'll just stay in your bag.

We have a couple bars where a short stick is required at times, having your own short stick with a decent tip for your team should be fine. I don't know of any rules where you have to share your equipment with the other team. Of course courtesy and etiquette prevails. Unfortunately what most of us had come to learn as simple common sense, courtesy and pool etiquette is not so common any more.

Love to see pictures of you playing with your miners' hat

Good luck and enjoy even the worst of matches.

I know I've read in someone's avatar here something like:
Even a bad night of pool beats a ......

Regards
Dave

 

[hang-the-9]

So this is your outfit next time you go there?