Again you are assuming a lot of things that you dont' know. Honestly, I can't believe I am even wasting any energy on this non topic. Good day. Break well.
BVal
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So you are saying that AFTER the cue tip hits the cue ball ( and leaves the tip of the cue), the ball actually INCREASES its momentum before hitting the head ball? Where does this extra energy come from? The friction of the cloth is ADDING velocity to the cue ball?
So you have the energy in your arm transferred through the cue and narrowly focused on a 13-14mm phenolic tip--- this energy is transferred to the cue ball---- THEN at some point before coming into contact with the head ball ( with a larger surface area) of the rack the cueball has MORE force? What happened and where to add this force as you suggest? I would be very interested in knowing your technique in achieving this
Also, they have enough proof for them. They do not need to prove it to you at all. They are able to change the rules as they see fit. Everyone else has the right to complain about it, and either adjust, or not play.
Jw
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who's doing all this damage....
I know countless league players, have been to vegas 7 times have scene hundreds of league players and frankly, most of them suck at pool (including me and Im a 8 in the apa). these people cant break their way out of a wet zig zag but their doing all this damage.
I know for a fact i can hit the ball 28.5 (in uncomfertable conditions) Luxury breaks pritty dang hard (maybe not accurate enough for some to call it a good break) and I cant think of many in are area that break as good as either of us. so who is causeing all this "damage". and just how hard do you have to break to do damage. Ive scene Allison break, in person, under the gun its a whopping 18 mph every time. Im betting the average speed for league players is 15 to 18 mph. That aint doing squat. like I said, my cue ball has been pounded to death and it rolls just fine.
If there is 3000 players at a national tourney how many are breaking over 25 mph, it isnt 100. Ive been in many a break contest 26 27 28 are hard to find. my favorite was when the guy goes to get his buddy who "regularily breaks house cues when he breaks" he steps up and fires a 21, I couldnt help but laugh..
I know countless league players, have been to vegas 7 times have scene hundreds of league players and frankly, most of them suck at pool (including me and Im a 8 in the apa). these people cant break their way out of a wet zig zag but their doing all this damage.
I know for a fact i can hit the ball 28.5 (in uncomfertable conditions) Luxury breaks pritty dang hard (maybe not accurate enough for some to call it a good break) and I cant think of many in are area that break as good as either of us. so who is causeing all this "damage". and just how hard do you have to break to do damage. Ive scene Allison break, in person, under the gun its a whopping 18 mph every time. Im betting the average speed for league players is 15 to 18 mph. That aint doing squat. like I said, my cue ball has been pounded to death and it rolls just fine.
If there is 3000 players at a national tourney how many are breaking over 25 mph, it isnt 100. Ive been in many a break contest 26 27 28 are hard to find. my favorite was when the guy goes to get his buddy who "regularily breaks house cues when he breaks" he steps up and fires a 21, I couldnt help but laugh..
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Hey, just to be clear- I did not mean any of my posts as a direct attack on you. I get it.
If you just said " hey, that really sucks that I can't use my favorite break cue anymore", I would say I agree with you. I am on the same side as far as that goes.
It is when you went on a grand campaign acting like you were the mouthpiece of every downhearted pool player out there, while at the same time losing sleep over the profitablility of the BCAPL, that I felt compelled to throw in my two cents. It really just comes down to you not being happy about not using your fav cue. I think everyone can understand and agree with that. I know I do.
Just say " that stinks" and call it a day. If this is the worst it gets, it can't be that bad!:thumbup:
No need to respond. Just thought I would throw that out there.
Jw
I can't believe anyone would quit a league just because they make a rule about what kind of tips are allowed. I've been in rooms for tournaments where the sign on the wall said "No Jump Shots and No Masse' Shots" and it was enforced!
Deal with the rules. Everybody will have to, if they want to play.
Steve
Deal with the rules. Everybody will have to, if they want to play.
Steve
How is the BCAPL going to lose money??
Somehow I am missing something. The op believes the BCAPL will lose money but then he admits that even he isn't going to quit playing in the league. If somebody so adamant against the rule change wont vote with his wallet then where does he think the lost money will be from? It seems to be the usual, open mouth, spout out a bunch of b.s and then when it actually comes to action it's "umm nevermind".
Personally, I could not care less about the rule. Never own a phenolic. And it seems I agree with @ 80% of the other people who voted that the BCAPL will not lose money.
Somehow I am missing something. The op believes the BCAPL will lose money but then he admits that even he isn't going to quit playing in the league. If somebody so adamant against the rule change wont vote with his wallet then where does he think the lost money will be from? It seems to be the usual, open mouth, spout out a bunch of b.s and then when it actually comes to action it's "umm nevermind".
Personally, I could not care less about the rule. Never own a phenolic. And it seems I agree with @ 80% of the other people who voted that the BCAPL will not lose money.
The OP was talking about losing money at the annual event, not weekly play. Based on everything that I read most local leagues will not have the same rule, it is only applicable at national events. Therefore, the OP was thinking that a lot of players, including himself, would forego the national event due to this rule.
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Here's the title of the thread:
Will BCA lose more money to players switching leagues than it costs to replace balls?
It seems pretty clear the OP is about the loss of money from people switching to another league, not just about a lower head count at the National event. Frankly, if the rule will only apply at the Nationals, it becomes even less of an issue, and the thread poll results suggest it is a non-issue to begin with.
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I dont and have never used a phenolic tip.....and I can usually pocket as many balls if not more balls than the people in my league that are using a phenolic tip (which is only 3)
I think its funny over all the uproar on the ban of these tips...I feel if your going to quit because of a tip, then you dont love the game as much as I do. I am not going to quit playing pool because I cant use a certain tip...I willl just use what is not banned and make the best of it
I think its funny over all the uproar on the ban of these tips...I feel if your going to quit because of a tip, then you dont love the game as much as I do. I am not going to quit playing pool because I cant use a certain tip...I willl just use what is not banned and make the best of it
You are correct based on the title of the thread and I am mistaken. It appeared in most of his posts he was talking about the nationals, which is why interpreted it like that; however, clearly from the thread title you are correct.
Completely understandable. I think what happened is Mark Griffin came in around page 3 and clarified the rule for the OP, explaining that it only applied at the National and nationally run regional events and that the individual weekly leagues are not automatically bound to adopt the policy. That's when some of the focus of the discussion changed. :thumbup:
Now I realize why Luxury is so critical of other people's polls. It's because he's taken such a blood bath on his own polls so it makes him feel just a little bit better to criticize others. That's some disturbing shite..
What's laughable is dredging up a three year old thread that isnt even topical any longer (since the ban has been rescinded) only to make a point about polls...
Yes, that is funny. You must have missed it but what else is laughable is how vehemently this OP criticizes just about every poll that comes out for how stupid the poll is and how much of a failure the polling results are.
Save the drama for your mama and stop bumping 3 1/2 year old threads. Get a tissue and go sob quietly if that's what you need to do.
Wow what a thread. Here is my 2 cents. First off, I am the owner of an original Pechaur Break (the 5th one ever sold) that has the white diamond phenolic tip on it. I love the cue and so does half my in house league team. That being said, if I go to a tournement or a league that says no phenolic, then I will break with an older break cue. Getting another shaft for your break cue is also possbile depending on the cue. Pechaur now has a leather tip for their break cue which I could use to change out.
This next part is a reply lo Luxury.
First off, I don't know you nor do I have any beef with you. You said in your response to Mark Griffin that "no one should ever had to change thier break cue." No offense but that is a childish thought process. What makes you so special? That is like going to a Chinese restaurant and ordering a hamburger when they don't offer one and demanding them accomodate you. Adaptation is a big thing in all sports. Defensive backs had to adapt to the new rules on head to head collisions. It is no different with us. You sound like a good player with a good break. I have a good break too. You got your break where it is by practicing and fine tuning. Why can't you do that with another tip/cue? It's not like it is going to take you the same amount of time to do that. You already have the fundamentals down. Shouldn't take longer than a week IMO. Again, nothing personal.
This next part is a reply lo Luxury.
First off, I don't know you nor do I have any beef with you. You said in your response to Mark Griffin that "no one should ever had to change thier break cue." No offense but that is a childish thought process. What makes you so special? That is like going to a Chinese restaurant and ordering a hamburger when they don't offer one and demanding them accomodate you. Adaptation is a big thing in all sports. Defensive backs had to adapt to the new rules on head to head collisions. It is no different with us. You sound like a good player with a good break. I have a good break too. You got your break where it is by practicing and fine tuning. Why can't you do that with another tip/cue? It's not like it is going to take you the same amount of time to do that. You already have the fundamentals down. Shouldn't take longer than a week IMO. Again, nothing personal.