best cues or cue makers

mark tadd said:
i remember him back in the daY im not very tall bot 5-11 ive hit with a few of them i think the balance is better so if made right should be awsome
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Mark, we have a pretty good player in town named Jim Jennings, a working man but one who shoots pretty straight. He plays with a few different cues and I guess because he is such a big guy using different economical cues, he is always tweaking the new cues he plays with. (He also sells cues). Jim carries a large bag of weighted bolts for cues in his vehicle and doesn't hesitate to change bolts on his cues or for others looking to change the balance point, weight and even the performance of the cue. The bolts come in different sizes and types of metal. Some bolts might be the same size but weigh different amounts. By varying the configuration of the bolts in the cue you can move the balance point to your liking. The hardware stores carry many allen-screw bolts that could help with adjusting the feel of your cue. I might consider trying different weight bolts to adjust the balance of any cue before guessing which cue maker might be able to give you the balance you are looking for in a cue.

Do you like a "forward balanced" cue? If you are in New Orleans, bring your cue by Buffalo Billiards and Jim will help you find your "center". :-)
JoeyA


Warm Regards,
JoeyA
 
Joey....How do you think a Gulyassey compares in hit to a Southwest? How old is the Gulyassey you play with?

The first shot I hit with any cue I want to try out is to put the cue ball about 4 inches from left side pocket and about 6 inches below the pocket. Put the object ball about 8-10 inches off the rail between the third and second diamond above the side pocket. Aim true and shoot with high, inside english pocketing the ball in the upper right corner pocket. A cue that Mark Tadd is looking for will pocket the ball. A cue that has some throw to it, you will miss on the first few times until you make an adjustment.
 
Gerry said:
With a spot in the IPT.....you should have any custom you want in hand as sponsorship from the maker!...in my opinion:D just put a little well placed patch on your shirt with their name and bingo...free cue.

Gerry
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That move doesn't work to much anymore thanks to scumbag pool players like Jose Parica, and others who try to scam cues only to sell them when they get in a bad game or just as a part time job. Cuemakers don't care as much about pro players, pro players don't sell cues.

Jim
 
JimBo said:
That move doesn't work to much anymore thanks to scumbag pool players like Jose Parica, and others who try to scam cues only to sell them when they get in a bad game or just as a part time job. Cuemakers don't care as much about pro players, pro players don't sell cues.

Jim
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Tap, tap, tap.
 
www.webbcues.com

I have owned proably 15 or so cues made by Mike and all have been of the highest quality and craftsmanship..... If i had a 60 inch Webb i would send it to you and let you try it but i dont use this lenght cue for my play... Just so you know, ive also owned approximately 60 cues made of various other custom makers that also played very well but have always went back to Mr. Webb.................... I M O of course, although i have seen his name mentioned earlier in this thread.........:)
Good luck with what ever cue you decide on and also great luck in the I.P.T. ..........:)
 
mark tadd said:
hi all i was just wondering who makes the best cues or what is one of the best hitting cues out there. thanks mark
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Hi Mark,

See my post (A Que Perfect Custom cue from Ronnie Powell) for sale, it's a good cue at a reasonable price.

PM me if you are interested.

Luc Comtois
 
watchez said:
Joey....How do you think a Gulyassey compares in hit to a Southwest? How old is the Gulyassey you play with?

The first shot I hit with any cue I want to try out is to put the cue ball about 4 inches from left side pocket and about 6 inches below the pocket. Put the object ball about 8-10 inches off the rail between the third and second diamond above the side pocket. Aim true and shoot with high, inside english pocketing the ball in the upper right corner pocket. A cue that Mark Tadd is looking for will pocket the ball. A cue that has some throw to it, you will miss on the first few times until you make an adjustment.
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The Gulyassey I am playing with reportedly has a "Buddy Hall" taper to the shaft, so I can only compare this taper to a traditional Southwest cue which I believe has a conical shaped taper instead of a straight taper ,making the SW a stiffer hit.

How about putting up a Wei Table for us to view your test shot.
Thanks,
Joeya
 
watchez said:
Joey....How do you think a Gulyassey compares in hit to a Southwest? How old is the Gulyassey you play with?

The first shot I hit with any cue I want to try out is to put the cue ball about 4 inches from left side pocket and about 6 inches below the pocket. Put the object ball about 8-10 inches off the rail between the third and second diamond above the side pocket. Aim true and shoot with high, inside english pocketing the ball in the upper right corner pocket. A cue that Mark Tadd is looking for will pocket the ball. A cue that has some throw to it, you will miss on the first few times until you make an adjustment.
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sorry.... The Gulyassey is only a couple of months old.....
JoeyA
 
May I suggest trying out the new Samsara Bar cue, they are at a very affordable $400.

Richard
 
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mark tadd said:
hi all i was just wondering who makes the best cues or what is one of the best hitting cues out there. thanks mark
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I have not heard of anyone not liking these:

http://www.layanicues.com/en/home.htm

There might be some good information in here for you, and Thierry is
a really great guy to work with on what you want.

Danny
 
asiasdad said:
I have not heard of anyone not liking these:

http://www.layanicues.com/en/home.htm

There might be some good information in here for you, and Thierry is
a really great guy to work with on what you want.

Danny
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Danny,

I was going to recommend that as well. I just was not sure the price/budget in the question.

Other than the joint, the best part of a Layani cue in my opinion, is the balance coupled with a very solid construction.

The balance is very nicely forward, and the construction of the whole cue displays great integrity. It is a cue which can help you to move the cue ball around effortlessly and precisely.

Speaking from experience, with regard to the joint, the Layani joint is a very soild joint which offers a very "consistent hit." I think that is perhaps what Mark was talking about, when he mentioned that some cues are inconsistent when it comes to where he wanted the cue ball to go.

I can relate to this comment as I have found a lot of cues to be very inconsistent from one shot to another. It can be very frustrating when you need to play pin point position.

I know some of you may say it is the stroke, but there is more to it than just the stroke. Some cues are constructed better in regard to stability and consistency than others, and Layani's cue is one such example. I attribute this to the joint, the construction and his precise workmanship(especially in terms of consistency on his shaft and butt taper, and the close tolerance of all the parts used in the cue).

I also believe Layani has one of the best shaft wood in the industry.

One interesting part: Layani cue features a slim butt, and a slightly smaller joint diameter. Nevertheless, the construction is so soild, that the cue feels more solid than most cues with a fatter butt and joint dimension.

For those of you who just come back from Vegas, pro player from Taiwan, Pei Wei Chang came 7th in the BCA with wins over Dave Mattlock, Corey Deuel, Shawn Putnam, Nick Varner, Kim Davenport...with his Layani cue.

Hope this helps.

Richard
 
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bells said:
lol that joint is wierd looking system...........................................:rolleyes:
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Sure is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bells nice avatar, might that be a Deickman ???????????:)
 
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Bandido seems to have offered you a custom cue free of charge, totally to your specs and making sure it hits exactly like you want it too before you take it. The guy is an amazing cue maker and a artist. You would be clueless not to jump at this offer.

Otherwise, there are alot of good cue makers out there that have been mentioned. Southwest build a great cue, you may think they are not the best but most of the top Taiwanese players in the world would disagree with you and their records speak for themselves with wins in the World 9-ball championships.

Congniscenti are phenomenal cues that hit amazingly well. You think they are too expensive? You are about to play in a pool tournament with a $2,000,000 purse. you are already in for some winnings even if you dont win a single game. Dont screw yourself over because you are too cheap to get yourself a decent cue you can trust for the price of a single good sized pot in poker.

There are a ton of good cue builders out there, you are a well known player and I am sure you could hit a few local pool halls during a tournament and have a hit with various people's cues trying to find a cue maker you like. This is not rocket science Mark, this is common sense, and I think you know as well as I do that going to the pool hall and checking out some of the cues is a far better way of finding a good hitting cue then asking this forum. Hell, I doubt you have to travel too far to find a good selection of various custom made cues at a higher end pool hall. You JUST missed the BCA 8-ball Championships in Vegas where you could have tried out a cue from almost every custom cue maker out there and found something you really liked.

Go out and find some cues, hit with them, find what you like, and dont be afraid to spend $2,000+ for that cue because the chances are it will make you a hell of alot more money then the cue costs you in the long run. Imagine the irony of being cheap, getting a $200 cue instead of a $2,000 cue you really like, trust, and shoot well with, and missing a key shot that costs you WAY more then the $2,000 cue was even worth. Dont go screwing yourself over getting a cheap cue you dont really like only to have it ruin your chances of winning $10,000+, which is not even that deep into the upcoming tournament. Shop around, spend some real money getting something you really like. Dont give yourself a cue that is nothing more then an excuse to lose.
 
pooldogue said:
Sure is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bells nice avatar, might that be a Deickman ???????????:)
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it sure is a dieckman........however its not mine tho..i just loved the way it looked. has his classic oldschool phantograph..............style to it..................i know dennis,... he doesnt live to far from me, the avitar is from his site .........i figured he wouldnt mind the advertisment....hehehe
 
I have heard many times from pro players who would make comments such as ,"I cannot really do this shot with this cue..." or "this cue does not feel very powerful..." or "certain shots are very hard to make with this cue, I need to try real hard..." or "this cue feels good, lots of power..." or" I cannot draw past the side with my cue, but I can do it easily with this cue..."

It seems to me that they may not really know how to articulate their feelings, as pool is after all, a game of "feel;" however, they know when they come across a cue which matches their stroke and their game.

I once asked Reyes to try a cue, and he balanced it on his shoulder, and walked around with it. Has anyone ever seen that?

I believe Mark has developed a certain way to control his cue ball over years of playing the game, so he really needs to try a cue first hand, before he can tell if the cue is for him.

I have seen and met players that are very sensitive. I have heard lots of players who told me they like a cue with a certain type of wood on the forearm, because they can feel the difference in the hit. After all, I think a player needs to be very sensitive with his hands in order to develop the "feel" to become really good.

To give an example, Kuo (WPC 2005 runner up, 3rd finisher in WPC 2004) tried a Samsara cue for the very first time in Vegas when I was talking to him at my booth. It had an ebony forearm with pink ivory point. Once he hit a few balls, he looked at me, confused, and said, "this cue does not hit like an ebony cue at all, why?" I told him, "yes, it has a cored ebony forearm with a rock maple core." It just shows how sensitive some players are.

I hope I will not get in trouble for saying this. Southwest cues are, in my opinion, very different from one to another regarding the hit. I hope you can find a source to let you try many of them. Some of them do hit like a dream come true. (I still remember I tried one from my friend Paul and it was just out of this world, the cue looked great, too. Thanks Paul:))

Mark, try the cue first, and if you find something you like, my advice would be buy the cue out right on the spot. That way, you know for sure you are getting what you really like.

Just my 2 cents.

Richard
 
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asiasdad said:
I have not heard of anyone not liking these:

http://www.layanicues.com/en/home.htm

There might be some good information in here for you, and Thierry is
a really great guy to work with on what you want.

Danny
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1-pocket-player said:
Now you have. I hate them.

-Andy
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bells said:
lol that joint is wierd looking system...........................................:rolleyes:
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The joint may look wierd, but the feel of the cue is great. You will have a hard time finding a cue that hits better.
Looks aren't everything. :D
 
To give an example, Kuo (WPC 2005 runner up, 3rd finisher in WPC 2004) tried a Samsara cue for the very first time in Vegas when I was talking to him at my booth. It had an ebony forearm with pink ivory point. Once he hit a few balls, he looked at me, confused, and said, "this cue does not hit like an ebony cue at all, why?" I told him, "yes, it has a cored ebony forearm with a rock maple core." It just shows how sensitive some players are.



A C player can tell the difference between pure ebony forearm or maple cored forearm.:eek:
I had a bocote Samsara one time. It too was cored. It hit way too soft for me.
 
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