Best Pool Hall Fight!

Last one I saw, a group of really big guys (5 guys or so, all over 6'2", all over 250, I'd guess) were getting drunker and louder and angrier, and when the manager asked them to leave they decided they needed to beat him up for that. The manager is gradually talking them out the door while yell louder and louder threats of increasing severity, not knowing the police were already waiting outside. Best part is, as he's passing my table, and the large drunks are looking away, he asks the guy I'm playing against for his cue. The guy hands it to him, and he puts the tip against the carpet and steps on it and put the broken-off butt behind his back to use as a club in case things turn ugly on the way out the door. Luckily the guy was playing with a house cue. I'm glad he didn't ask for mine!

-Andrew
 
At the Jointed Cue in Sacramento years ago I was playing in the back room. All of a sudden all hell broke loose in the front of the pool room, asian guys running around everywhere, chasing and getting chased by some mexican guys. I went back to my table and then I heard what sounded like a cue being broken over a table and as I walk back to the entrance of the back room, an asian guy comes in and falls at my feet. I asked him if he was alright but he was just squirming around, so I thought he had been hit with the broken cue. Then, I noticed the bullet holes in his back. Not a pretty sight! One of the mexican guys had gone out to his car and came back to the front door and started shooting. Other than that, it was a pretty good night.:D
 
My buddy is playing these out-of-towners in a small bar with an 8-foot table. He takes 'em for a few bucks and they're not happy. It's 2:00 am and the bar is closing so my friend and I are going to go to my house a few blocks away. I hop in my car and go home, thinking my bud is right behind me in his truck. After about 5 minutes, I hear some noise in my neighbor's front yard.

Out the door I go and there's my buddy on the gorund in a mutual headlock with one of the guys with the other guy taking sucker punches at him. He looks at me and says, "Get a ball bat and come back out and help me." One of the guys backs off when he sees me. The guy in the headlock and my buddy agree to let go of each other as neither is breathing very well at this point. "You won't hit me, right?" says the one standing up. "No," says my friend.

So they let go and instantly my friend jumps up and throws the best punch I've ever seen at the guy standing. It was just like an episode of the A-Team as the guy's head goes back, his cap flies about ten feet backward and he's right behind it with his arms flailing as he falls to the ground. Oh crap, I thought, here we go...

Within seconds, a cop car pulls up in the yard and stops it.

Later, my friend tells me he taunted these guys in the parking lot. He was in his truck and there were giving him shit so he backs his truck up towards them and gives shit back. They came running towards his truck and he moved it forward just enough so they couldn't get to it. When they stopped running, he stopped his truck and backed it up again to do the same thing. This happened like three or four times...gee, I wonder why they got mad and followed him to my place to fight.

We knew the cops, and they said to my friend, "What do you want us to do with these guys?" My friend said, "Lock one in the backseat and let me have the other. Once I'm finished with him then I'll take on the other guy" "No no!" they screamed, so the cops kicked 'em out of town, but we heard they were back at the bar the next night looking for us and it turns out they had warrants out on them.

Jeff Livingston
 
Phoenix, Az. Golden 8 ball.

We had 2 bouncers, Fred and Damen.

Fred looked like a brick wall with arms, Damen was a 6'6"+ 275#?? body builder looking dude.

I witnessed them escort a 200# drunk to the door and then the drunk flipped out.

Double doors with a post in between them.

Damen picks the drunk up by the back of his pants and the collar of his shirt and throws the dude like a frisbee through the doors. Both doors and pole and drunk crash out into the parking lot.

I was impressed!


On a side note, I had a fight with a crackhead. For my troubles, I was knifed and nearly died.

At the time, I was in the best shape of my life. I hit that guy with rediculously hard punches. No joke, it would have broken a normal guy's neck.

I hit him so hard, his feet flew up in the air and he came down flat on his back......and he got up. I put him in a fireman's drove him head first into a wall and piledrove him into the floor. He got up, stabbed me and ran off.

Funny thing, I never saw the knife until I was hit. He must have had it in his hand....but I never saw it.
 
Well

These are interesting, and I have a few of my own, but
I would rather that Pool be associated with sex and not
violence, it will attract a bigger crowd ... lol
 
JohnMorton said:
At the Jointed Cue in Sacramento years ago I was playing in the back room. All of a sudden all hell broke loose in the front of the pool room, asian guys running around everywhere, chasing and getting chased by some mexican guys. I went back to my table and then I heard what sounded like a cue being broken over a table and as I walk back to the entrance of the back room, an asian guy comes in and falls at my feet. I asked him if he was alright but he was just squirming around, so I thought he had been hit with the broken cue. Then, I noticed the bullet holes in his back. Not a pretty sight! One of the mexican guys had gone out to his car and came back to the front door and started shooting. Other than that, it was a pretty good night.:D
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Hey John! I've played at the Jointed Cue a few times. I used to go there when I was in the Air Force and went TDY to Mather AFB when it was open. I remember that Tom Coker used to run the bowling alley at Mather AFB.
 
I worked the bars for a number of years and saw too many of these to count. I'm enjoying reading the stories as they sound so familiar.

I just wanted to give some of you a little tip, as I trained a number of bouncers in my day. For those that've dealt with people hopped-up on something and it seems impossible to stop them, you have to take away their air. That's the only way to stop them short of killing them. If they are bigger than you, you have to get behind them, lock on from behind on the neck, while kicking their feet out, pulling them backwards on top of you (on your back). then just hold on for the ride, till they stop moving.

For you innocent or uninitiated folks, if you are in the pool hall and a squabble breaks out, don't grab a cue and think you're going to be like in Roadhouse and clean up, it rarely happens. Grab a few pool balls and back yourself in a corner. Anyone who comes near you, that doesn't have a badge or a staff logo, go Nolan Ryan on them.
 
CheffJeff:

I laughed my butt off at your description of the knockout punch. Cracked me UP, Man!
 
Guru said:
I worked the bars for a number of years and saw too many of these to count. I'm enjoying reading the stories as they sound so familiar.

I just wanted to give some of you a little tip, as I trained a number of bouncers in my day. For those that've dealt with people hopped-up on something and it seems impossible to stop them, you have to take away their air. That's the only way to stop them short of killing them. If they are bigger than you, you have to get behind them, lock on from behind on the neck, while kicking their feet out, pulling them backwards on top of you (on your back). then just hold on for the ride, till they stop moving.

For you innocent or uninitiated folks, if you are in the pool hall and a squabble breaks out, don't grab a cue and think you're going to be like in Roadhouse and clean up, it rarely happens. Grab a few pool balls and back yourself in a corner. Anyone who comes near you, that doesn't have a badge or a staff logo, go Nolan Ryan on them.
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All those years playing at Galaxy Billiards in SA I never saw a real one. Heard of a few, LOL!
 
bruin70 said:
andy,,,you're from utah? was your polynesian friend samoan:):):)? if so,,,that dumb *ss road player learned a valuable lesson about dealing with "local boys", and samoans in particular.
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My friend was Tongan. Utah has one of the largest Polynesian populations in the country. Mostly Tongan's and Samoan's but there are Hawaiin's as well. That is one reason the University of Utah Utes are as good as they are. The offensive and defensive line is at least 75% polynesian.

People don't realize that Polynesian's have superhuman strength. I've got a funny stort about how strong they are. I once had to have some concrete busted up on my driveway so I called a construction company to do it. They told me they had to bring in some heavy machinery well it turned their "heavy machinery" was 4 Tongan's with sledgehammers. Within twenty minutes they had that concret busted up to a powder.

When you get to know most of them they are the friendliest people you will ever meet. Some of my best friends are Polynesian and if you're in trouble they will defend you like you're a member of their family.
 
1-pocket-player said:
At the my home room(The Ritz) a guy got beat so bad his friend had to drag him out unconscious. It was between four Mexicans and two Argentinians. Another time there was a fight between a Vietnamese street gang and a Mexican gang one of the Mexicans got his testicles shot off. There was a bullet hole in the front door for 3 months.

A Polynesian friend of mine was gambling with a 6'+ road player who was down a lot. The road player started giving him shit and I turned around at one point and heard very loud slap and he was on the ground with blood coming out of his nose and ears.

Another friend of mine got hit in the face with a bag full of video tapes at the Cushion and Cue. He then tackled him and really let the guy have it. A guy also got stabbed with a pencil by this crazy dude there.

And 6 or 7 months ago a guy got beaten to death outside of EO's

Utah is more dangerous than people think. It used to be the meth capitol of the country.

-Andy
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Glad I don't live in Utah!
 
I used to live in Hawaii. I lived in this appartment complex in Manoa Valley.
There was a Samoan family that lived across from me and about twice a month they would get into a family fight in the parking lot. The father, mother and older kids (in their teens) would be out there punching each other out. After they'd get tired or just wanted to quit, they'd start talking and then laughing and the party would begin. They were all big-boned people and if any normal sized person got in the middle of one of those fights, they probably wouldn't have survived!

I usually miss the ph fights for some reason. I did see one fight between two pretty good pool players. They got into a disagreement over a shot and one thing led to another and they threw their cues down and squared up. What happened next just blew my mind. They started slapping at each other like a couple of girls (no offense ladies). There was a whole bunch of use standing around sweating the action. I couldn't stand it so I walked up to them and told them to knock it off because they were embarrassing me. Everyone started laughing including the two fighters and the fight was over.

John Morton,

Speaking of the Jointed Cue, I was in there one night and there was a couple of guys playing on a table drinking beer. One of them sets his beer on the rail of the table and Carlos (you remember him?) tells the guy to please take the beer off the table. The guy ignores him so Carlos asks him again but not so politely. The guy flips Carlos the bird. Well, right about then about 5 or 6 regulars stop playing and start walking towards the guy telling him to either get that ******* beer off the table or to leave and if he didn't they were going to **** him the Hell up. The guy very quickly picked up his bottle of beer and apologized profusely to Carlos.
 
coastydad said:
All those years playing at Galaxy Billiards in SA I never saw a real one. Heard of a few, LOL!
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That's just a testament to how big (and diverse) the place was. Serious pool in the back... bikers n yayhoos by the bar and door. :p

The other day I was chatting with someone on here who talks to Don Hoppe regularly and I guess he was relaying some old Galaxy war stories. One in particular where I threw a guy out by his neck, with his feet off the ground the whole way (that's what happens when ya take a swing at the owner while he's talking the bouncer) :rolleyes:
 
My vote is for the pool room fight in "Mean Streets" ... reality is WAY too ugly!

Why didn't I pay you? Because you're a mook, and we don't pay mooks here.
 
Travis Bickle said:
My vote is for the pool room fight in "Mean Streets" ... reality is WAY too ugly!

Why didn't I pay you? Because you're a mook, and we don't pay mooks here.
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How 'bout Steven Segal vs Dan Inosanto in Out for Justice?:D
Clint Eastwood and some in Every Which Way You Can?:D
 
JoeyInCali said:
How 'bout Steven Segal vs Dan Inosanto in Out for Justice?:D
Clint Eastwood and some in Every Which Way You Can?:D
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Yeah, I liked the way Steven stuck the poolballs in a sock and whipped it around like David and Goliath. Pretty effective. That's why you should always wear socks in the poolroom. :D
 
rick- i always miss the fights, too. And I'm in all the right places, but all the "wrong" times (worked nights at jointed cue, with carlos, time served: '91-'92).

...Although two years ago at Hard Times in Sac I saw a man finish an argument by spitting in the woman's face, twice. I think I was more shocked than I would have been if he'd hit her.
 
I'm not sure if there is a BEST pool room fight because the ones I've seen weren't pretty.

I heard a tale about "Hippy Jimmy" Reid (1985 U.S. Open Champion) and Keith McCready at Pistol Pete's in Anaheim, California. They were engaged in a battle for a sand bag and a half (LOL), 7-ahead 9-ball, even Steven. All of a sudden, 15 bikers stormed the place, and they were mad at some regulars in there, fondly known to the locals as the "Karate Guys." :p

All hell broke loose, bottles flying, tables getting flipped, and people running for cover. There were only FOUR Karate Guys, but they beat the crap out of the biker gang of 15. Keith hid under the table like a scared rabbit. Jimmy lay under the table next to him. After the dust settled, their game resumed, business as usual. Another day in paradise! :D

JAM
 
rackmsuckr said:
Yeah, I liked the way Steven stuck the poolballs in a sock and whipped it around like David and Goliath. Pretty effective. That's why you should always wear socks in the poolroom. :D
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Actually it was a bar towel, I don't think Stevie had time to remove a shoe much less a shoe and then a sock.... lol

I'm a big fan of Seagal. You can't beat the pool cue fight either.

Jet Li in Kiss of the Dragon when he kicked the snooker ball out of the pocket. That move owned.
 
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