Best tip for diamond bar boxes

realkingcobra said:
2 things, first, stop bringing your 9ft stroke to a 7ft table, second, choke up on your long stroke a little bit, that'll take some of the speed out!
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hes not lying,


when i play straight rail you want minimal movement on many shots

we tend to use 2 inch or so bridge lengths and hold the cue at the balance that gives you the greatest control over the power in the hit. and its much easier to baby the ball around
 
A 650 player that thinks the his tip is what's making him under perform on a specific table..?

Maybe fargo is more like the "equalizer" than I thought...
 
SEB said:
There’s condition heavy players and others where conditions don’t affect them at all. Consider yourself lucky because it’s a nightmare for some of us showing up to what feels like a completely different game every time a new tournament comes along.
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Well being a Road Warrior requires the ability to adjust to new variables. Cliff Thorburn took those skills to the top.
 
telinoz said:
This x 1000!

I know plenty of players who have more cues than ability...
They are constantly messing with a setup... and wonder why they are not consistent.

Basic biology.
Humans have muscle memory.
We get better at things through repetition.
Translation: Practice, put the time in.

Adjusting what equipment you use too much messes with the variables.
Cue, tip, chalk etc...

Anyone, including Professionals I have seen, take a minimum of 3 months to adjust to a new setup.
Then, they rarely change.
Some are forced to by sponsors... but, not in Snooker.

As for adjusting from 9ft to 7ft tables, cloth, balls...
That is something that again, comes with practice.
Don't mess with stance, addressing the ball.

Play style and patterns remain the same, mostly... 7ft tables is more about touch and feel with breaking out clusters and 9ft is about playing for lines and areas... in my experience.
I often spend a week of solid practice, I mean 10 hours min, I have a job... so... moving from 7ft to 9ft or 9ft to 7ft.
That is just me, you adjust pace and get used to the conditions.
Again, secret is time and practice and muscle memory.
Effort is the key word.
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x10000

You don't need to change equipment to play on different tables. This is just covering up BS play.

This is why the Youtube fanboys can't play. Feel is not something that can be taught in a video. It has to be learned through experience.
 
Texas Carom Club said:
theres a speed drill for straight rail i was shown where you hit one object ball and try to hold the distance between it and the cue ball to about 1/4/ or 3/8 of an inch

and to repeat it as much as possible to get that feel
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Interesting drill.
How far would you shoot the object ball generally? 1/4table, 1/2table? Full table? Multiple rails?
 
KyHighball said:
Interesting drill.
How far would you shoot the object ball generally? 1/4table, 1/2table? Full table? Multiple rails?
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all distances. depends on how they lay
but when your playing it right, the object ball doesnt move too far until its time to bring it back with the other two, then it can go up and down table or several rails
and everything in between
 
Zerksies said:
Sounds like complete BS rating. The average "pro" woman player is in that range and they has no issues adjusting tables. Nor are they changing equipment for each game. If you can't adjust to a table your more of a 400 player
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I can adjust to any table after one rack of any game.
just watching my opponent helps.
 
There was a thread years ago about playing on trick tables. I'm pretty sure the one post I'm thinking about was by SJD, who is now with the pool gods. His post was something to the affect of: When playing on super fast tables and/or boingy rails, to actually play for fuller and harder hits. NOT slower hits. This will take the rails more out of play.

If anyone remembers that thread, I think it was about a table he gambled on regularly that was full of grease from a nearby kitchen, and the balls rolled like crazy on it. Something like that.
 
The_JV said:
A 650 player that thinks the his tip is what's making him under perform on a specific table..?

Maybe fargo is more like the "equalizer" than I thought...
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I know its me not adjusting good but at this point its basically a fact that changing the tip helps me control speed better on these tables...so its more than just 'thinking'. You can also say this to alex pagulyan who uses a different cue with a different tip for playing rotation vs 1-pocket.... Apparently filler uses a different tip for 1 pocket as well.
 
Zerksies said:
Sounds like complete BS rating. The average "pro" woman player is in that range and they has no issues adjusting tables. Nor are they changing equipment for each game. If you can't adjust to a table your more of a 400 player
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LOL. Responses like this are from the 400 players....
 
pw98 said:
I know its me not adjusting good but at this point its basically a fact that changing the tip helps me control speed better on these tables...so its more than just 'thinking'. You can also say this to alex pagulyan who uses a different cue with a different tip for playing rotation vs 1-pocket.... Apparently filler uses a different tip for 1 pocket as well.
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However, the reasoning behind the change for Alex and maybe Filler (didn't know that one) isn't because they can't adjust for table speed. It's because (in at least Alex's case) he prefers the action he gets with a very soft tip on the CB with extremely soft shots. Whereas the little guy wants all the power he can muster when swinging the CB around in rotation games.
 
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pw98 said:
I know its me not adjusting good but at this point its basically a fact that changing the tip helps me control speed better on these tables...so its more than just 'thinking'. You can also say this to alex pagulyan who uses a different cue with a different tip for playing rotation vs 1-pocket.... Apparently filler uses a different tip for 1 pocket as well.
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i have played alot on both bar tables (yuck) and 9ft tables and i never once thought maybe i should change tips for such and such reason.... seems goofy to me.
 
xX-Wizard-Xx said:
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i have played alot on both bar tables (yuck) and 9ft tables and i never once thought maybe i should change tips for such and such reason.... seems goofy to me.
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It honestly is... what happens when you're playing on a 9ft and only want to roll a ball a few inches...? Change shafts mid rack...?...lol
 
The_JV said:
However, the reasoning behind the change for Alex and maybe Filler (didn't know that one) isn't because they can't adjust for table speed. It's because (in at least Alex's case) he prefers the action he gets with a very soft tip on the CB with extremely soft shots. Whereas the little guy wants all the power he can muster when swinging the CB around in rotation games.
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"he prefers the action he gets with a very soft tip on the CB with extremely soft shots"

This sentence is key. On these tables you constantly hit extremely soft shots as they have fast rails that are boingy from humidity and championship 3030 cloth which is faster than 760. The soft tip does help in these cases, for the same reason alex thinks it helps in one-pocket.
 
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There's a locadl 9ft table here with carom cloth that is very fast. I like to play 1pkt on it. It'll take me a few racks to adjust.

Never considered a new tip but the shorter tip gap , fuller hits and just dialing back the stroke are all solid advice.
 
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