Where was this posted? I can't find it on his facebook page. Do you know what the dates are?
Better equipment, shafts, Tips, and Kamui Chalk, but the 526 RUN RECORDS Stands?
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It was posted on Mark Kendall's page yesterday he's a good friend of John's
He was wishing John luck breaking the record.
Is John attempting to equal or break Willie's record of 526 on a Brunswick 4'x8' table?
If not, what size table? And, why, if it's not a Brunswick 4'x8'?
Sorry guys i don't know all the details about the table, i just thought John's attempt at this was pertinent to this thread.
This is all i heard about the table i heard it's not a Diamond.
They have a table set up with new cloth, easy pockets and clean balls.
It is a 4.5x9, I'm pretty sure. He tried this back in April. Here is a post he made at the time.
Ok i just got the numbers in. I had 18 playing days and had 28 runs over 200 in that time. Here's the exact numbers from low to high only mentioning 200 plus. 200,208,211,211,214,224,225,228,228,233,239,239,239,240,240,244,249,250,255,271,272,,294,294,322,323,327,353,362.
about 7/8 hours a day....average (minimum) of 7- 10+ runs daily (over a hundred) for each of those 18 days.
about 7/8 hours a day....average (minimum) of 7- 10+ runs daily (over a hundred) for each of those 18 days.
With that kind of performance, John had about one chance in four of running 527 during that 18 days of trying.
I don't think the room has 4x8s.
It's probably one of the tables by the windows at the front of the pool hall. That would make it a 4.5x9. I think it is a Rebco. Here is the room's website:
http://easystreetbilliards.com/
IMHO, if the conditions, (Brunswick 4'x8' table) isn't used, what ever John's run will be, it will be irrelevant, pertaining to breaking Mosconi's 526 ball run!
I'm pretty sure, most will agree, the balls can get tied up playing straight pool, WAY easier on a 4'x8' table, than lets say a, 4.5'x9' or even a 5'x10' table!
P.S. Terry, I invite you to go to this link: https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=484373 and check out my phone interview with the late Charlie Ursitti on Willie Mosconi and the 526 ball run. And another run Willie made in Vegas!
The table John Schmidt is playing on is a Rebco. For those who know the room, it is by the windows at the front and closest to the counter.
I agree with you about getting a high run in 14.1 may be easier on a 9-foot than on an 8-foot for an experienced pro level player, but the same does not apply when going from a 9-foot to a 10-foot, in my opinion.IMHO, if the conditions, (Brunswick 4'x8' table) isn't used, what ever John's run will be, it will be irrelevant, pertaining to breaking Mosconi's 526 ball run!
I'm pretty sure, most will agree, the balls can get tied up playing straight pool, WAY easier on a 4'x8' table, than lets say a, 4.5'x9' or even a 5'x10' table!
P.S. Terry, I invite you to go to this link: https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=484373 and check out my phone interview with the late Charlie Ursitti on Willie Mosconi and the 526 ball run. And another run Willie made in Vegas!
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How about 5" corners?
Pro 8 is 46 by 92.
9 footers are 50 by 100.
IMHO, if the conditions, (Brunswick 4'x8' table) isn't used, what ever John's run will be, it will be irrelevant, pertaining to breaking Mosconi's 526 ball run!
I'm pretty sure, most will agree, the balls can get tied up playing straight pool, WAY easier on a 4'x8' table, than lets say a, 4.5'x9' or even a 5'x10' table!
P.S. Terry, I invite you to go to this link: https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=484373 and check out my phone interview with the late Charlie Ursitti on Willie Mosconi and the 526 ball run. And another run Willie made in Vegas!
How about 5" corners?
Pro 8 is 46 by 92.
9 footers are 50 by 100.
Jimmy Caras had a different opinion. Having played straight pool many hours on 4x8s, I have the same opinion as Caras. I asked him about whether 4x8s were easier to run balls on than 9-foot tables. He said that the only reason a top player would ever miss on a 4x8 was because he got tired.
I've seen Schmidt run over 170 on two separate occasions on small tables at trade shows. Both times it was within five innings, so I didn't have to wait for it. He knows how to play caroms and swerves and the occasional bank. But nearly all the time, he is in line.
What does the size of pockets have to do with the balls tying up more on a 4'x8' table?
Easier to bank, cheat the pocket and allows for more throw shots on frozen balls.
Disallowing, the banks and cheating pockets, the shorter distance for a frozen ball to travel may not throw enough!
Joey, please take a listen to this phone interview with Charlie Ursitti. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGm4TtJQKXE I think you'll find it very informative!
This can go on forever.
But, the fact stands, no pro is getting paid to do straight pool exhibitions.
If Schmidt, Holman and Pagulayan were paid to do those exhibitions for years, who's to say they would have not run 500+?
But, the fact stands, no pro is getting paid to do straight pool exhibitions.
If Schmidt, Holman and Pagulayan were paid to do those exhibitions for years, who's to say they would have not run 500+?
Over the years we have known each other, I have heard you share a version of this opinion a number of times. However, as I am reading this one, I guess what impresses me is the consistency with which he ran a hundred. I think I might argue that this consistency is more impressive than the 526 on a 4 x 8.
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The history books are filled with records that in 98% of them NO monetary incentive to achieve it!
What TOP straight pool player of today would not want to leave a record & legacy which has NOT been rivaled to this date! C'mon man, really!
Not worth their time.
They play 9 ball and 10 ball 90+% of the time.
And where do you find pro 8 tables with 5" corners now?