Betting odds for the 2007 World Pool CHampionships

Bustamante 14/1
Orcollo 22/1
Deuel 33/1
Strickland 33/1
Dark Horse Shane Van Boening 40/1

I really hope an American can take it down but its going to be tough. I think Corey probably has the best chance of the Americans but ya never know. USA, USA, USA, USA! :)
 
Question

Where you a person make a bet if they wanted to bet on all the odds posted on here....... I seen were all those players had odds.....So there has to be someone putting those lines out there...
 
some good odds for us there, except Busta, lol, 14-1 favourite, more like
50-1 at this stage of his career
 
Yeah but Bustamante has been playing quite well and even at his age is way better than a 50-1, SMASH. I like his chances.
 
dannyb78 said:
Where you a person make a bet if they wanted to bet on all the odds posted on here....... I seen were all those players had odds.....So there has to be someone putting those lines out there...
They seem to keep mentioning "Stan James" so I put that as a phrase into the "Phrase Search" text box at the search site http://www.google.com/advanced_search and it immediately returned a link to the web site www.stanjames.com/ They seem to take bets on all kinds of sports, including basketball, football, baseball and pool. I have no idea whether it is legal for someone in the US to make bets there, although I notice that the US is not in their pull-down list of customer countries although Canada is.
 
Similar to all other large UK bookmaking groups, since the arrival of online betting and the general globalisation of sporting events Stan James Group have various offshore divisions and companies registered in various ways in various countries. However the Stan James Group is still at its roots essentially a British bookmaking company which has a long history of honest trading.

Many years ago you would have only found Stan James family members and employees trading as pitch/rails bookmakers at horse and dog racing tracks in UK. The next step was to open a chain of High Street betting shops in UK and to branch out into sports betting. They have always seemed to have a flair for betting innovation and 'pioneering' and were one of the first firms in UK to introduce regular handicap betting markets. They have often been the first large global firm to take a chance on opening a betting market in the more obscure and minor sports, perhaps hence their apparent willingness to give pool a fair crack of the whip.

They are not quite yet in the same league size-wise as the big boys such as Ladbrokes and William Hill but they are a multi-million pounds sterling group which is certainly right up there in at least the second tier of betting giants.

One of their divisions happens to be a sponsor of The Candian 9 Ball Tour.

As regards the USA authorities position on the current legality of online betting and the bank transfer of funds related to such betting in and out of USA, this has been discussed many times in the IPT threads and elsewhere on these boards. It's a bit cloudy but those AZB'ers without any banking facility outside USA may well experience great difficulty in betting with Stan James or any of the other betting groups online divisions. This type of problem for citizens wishing to bet online can only be fully rectified by action on the part of the Govt of USA. Presently that Govt seem to have no inclination to encourage the freedom of USA citizens to make their own decisions as regards where, when and with whom they place any online bets. Whether that policy is inspired by fundamental morality issues or by vested, protectionist interests of USA based betting organisations is not clear. What is certain is that all the online bookmakers view the USA as a huge potential online market which they would love to be able to legally service.

Hope this clarification helps but as usual at the end of the day these are just my personal experience, observations and two cents worth:)
 
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memikey said:
Similar to all other large UK bookmaking groups, since the arrival of online betting and the general globalisation of sporting events Stan James Group have various offshore divisions and companies registered in various ways in various countries. However the Stan James Group is still at its roots essentially a British bookmaking company which has a long history of honest trading.

Many years ago you would have only found Stan James family members and employees trading as pitch/rails bookmakers at horse and dog racing tracks in UK. The next step was to open a chain of High Street betting shops in UK and to branch out into sports betting. They have always seemed to have a flair for betting innovation and 'pioneering' and were one of the first firms in UK to introduce regular handicap betting markets. They have often been the first large global firm to take a chance on opening a betting market in the more obscure and minor sports, perhaps hence their apparent willingness to give pool a fair crack of the whip.

They are not quite yet in the same league size-wise as the big boys such as Ladbrokes and William Hill but they are a multi-million pounds sterling group which is certainly right up there in at least the second tier of betting giants.

One of their divisions happens to be a sponsor of The Candian 9 Ball Tour.

As regards the USA authorities position on the current legality of online betting and the bank transfer of funds related to such betting in and out of USA, this has been discussed many times in the IPT threads and elsewhere on these boards. It's a bit cloudy but those AZB'ers without any banking facility outside USA may well experience great difficulty in betting with Stan James or any of the other betting groups online divisions. This type of problem for citizens wishing to bet online can only be fully rectified by action on the part of the Govt of USA. Presently that Govt seem to have no inclination to encourage the freedom of USA citizens to make their own decisions as regards where, when and with whom they place any online bets. Whether that policy is inspired by fundamental morality issues or by vested, protectionist interests of USA based betting organisations is not clear. What is certain is that all the online bookmakers view the USA as a huge potential online market which they would love to be able to legally service.

Hope this clarification helps but as usual at the end of the day these are just my personal experience, observations and two cents worth:)

Aside from the Bush politics, the answer is if you live in the U.S., you cannot bet with Stan James.

This reply may be dissected, but I'm just giving you the bottom line. Don't bet with Stan James if you are an American living on American soil and betting from a computer that is located in America. :p

JAM [sick and tired of politics]
 
smashmouth said:
there are many ways around the law

easiest method is to open a bank account if a foreign country

I don't know. I kind of like the banking laws here in the States. If something happens overseas, then our monies are not protected. JMHO, FWIW!

Sometimes people open bank accounts overseas to avoid the tax system here in the States.

JAM
 
gopi-1 said:
. I might get some flak for saying this but Busti at 14-1? Don't get me wrong, I love Busti but to peg him at 14-1 is somewhat ridiculous. :D

You're not getting flak from me, Gopi. I agree that, at 14-1, the odds for Busti might be surprising to many who feel his recent record pales in comparison to SVB and Dennis O, but not ridiculous from the point of view of Stan James. You will note that he has the same betting odds as Efren, the perennial betting odds favorite of the WPA world 9ball tourney, and I suspect in Busti's case this is largely an afterglow of he and Efren winning the inaugural World Cup of Pool in Cardiff (am not sure about the venue but it was definitely held in Britain) against Earl and Rodney in the lopsided finals last year.
 
gopi-1 said:
I'm a little bit disappointed in you, you didn't live up to your handle. :D
He's 43...

Efren was already in his mid-40's when he won the WPA world 9ball in Cardiff in 1999, so Busti at 43 still has a chance to win it although that window is closing fast on him. He came closest to winning it in 2002 when he reached but lost the finals, perhaps one of the most dramatic in the history of pool, Busti fighting against Earl and his own grief at the passing of his daughter two days earlier.
 
JAM said:
I don't know. I kind of like the banking laws here in the States. If something happens overseas, then our monies are not protected. JMHO, FWIW!

Sometimes people open bank accounts overseas to avoid the tax system here in the States.

JAM


Jennie,

isn't it possible for the US residents to just use the credit card to open an account with Stan James etc..??? All of the betting companies I know work that way. Afterwards, if cash in usee pay pal to transfer the money...

Markus
 
More like picks from the heart

1. Archer (he's done it repeatedly before and he can do it again)

2. SVB (hard to bet against the kid that's on a hot streak)

3. Parica (countless finals...never can quite finish in the majors...he's due)
 
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