Beware of Karsten Steinmann from Germany

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sneak_peter said:
yes sure...

so craig, can you proove 100%, that you send the shaft to my correct adress? maybe you got it already back? refunding the money then will let appear you very generous...
my suspicion is as good or bad as yours!


for the love of God. WTFE. I'm the one with many excellent transactions with users here, you are not.
 
cbi1000 said:
for the love of God. WTFE. I'm the one with many excellent transactions with users here, you are not.

so you have the right to do so and i have not? please explain.

you are continuing to brag about your exellent transactions, your good rep etc. But how is this concerned with your behaviour in our transaction, espaecially this thread?

43 ebay transactions - i have plenty of them. 100% positive! 'dude'
 
sneak_peter said:
so you have the right to do so and i have not? please explain.

you are continuing to brag about your exellent transactions, your good rep etc. But how is this concerned with your behaviour in our transaction, espaecially this thread?

43 ebay transactions - i have plenty of them. 100% positive! 'dude'

on one hand we have a 3 yr member with multiple perfect transactions.

on the other hand we have a new member with no posts and no itrader.

im not sure who i should believe. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

you got your money back. enjoy his shaft when you get it! he is out the money and the shaft. he did the right thing in your transaction. you can not win sir

normally i would let you keep digging your own grave here but its getting out of hand. everytime you log on your making yourself look worse and worse
 
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dave sutton said:
on one hand we have a 3 yr member with multiple perfect transactions.

on the other hand we have a new member with no posts and no itrader.

im not sure who i should believe. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

you got your money back. enjoy his shaft when you get it! he is out the money and the shaft. he did the right thing in your transaction. you can not win sir

normally i would let you keep digging your own grave here but its getting out of hand. everytime you log on your making yourself look worse and worse


TAP TAP TAP.
 
dave sutton said:
on one hand we have a 3 yr member with multiple perfect transactions.

on the other hand we have a new member with no posts and no itrader.

im not sure who i should believe. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

you got your money back. enjoy his shaft when you get it! he is out the money and the shaft. he did the right thing in your transaction. you can not win sir

normally i would let you keep digging your own grave here but its getting out of hand. everytime you log on your making yourself look worse and worse

sorry your highness, i'm not born with 2000 posts and 10 itraders.
this is a free forum. and people like you will not break my sense of justice nor from posting in this thread!
thanks for the worms... if that was your help, i better surrender!
 
From reading this thread,here is my opinion,contact customs and make an inquiry,both of you should do this and see where you get,the effort your putting on here bickering could do more there. ;)
 
sneak_peter said:
sorry your highness, i'm not born with 2000 posts and 10 itraders.
this is a free forum. and people like you will not break my sense of justice nor from posting in this thread!
thanks for the worms... if that was your help, i better surrender!
the can of worms was not for you. If you are going to do deals on azb you should prob learn to read and utilize the site properly. Go back and look at what was quoted then try again.
 
thanks for reps!

thanks folks for understanding my position!

btw: what are these funny liitle green spots for? :cool:
 
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Fast Lenny said:
From reading this thread,here is my opinion,contact customs and make an inquiry,both of you should do this and see where you get,the effort your putting on here bickering could do more there. ;)

already done, fast lenny! but i have to wait, nothing i can do.
 
My take on all of this, keep in mind I have done recent business with both Karsten and cbi1000.
Both our deals went well, everything was shipped and paid for fast.

The deal I had with Karsten bounced because I made a mistake in my description.
It was also for a BCM 314 Shaft, which turned out to be 3/8x10 instead of 3/8x11 as I described it.
I off course gave Karsten a refund and he gave me back the shaft.

As luck would have it the deal I had with cbi1000 was also for a 314-2 BCM threads,
and I got the shaft in good condition as described.

So I have no reason to believe either cbi1000 or Karsten are anything but honest.
I believe cbi has shipped the shaft long ago, however I also believe Karsten hasn't received it yet.

I have contacted German Customs myself in an effort to find out what is going on with the package.
I was unable to find out anything about this package,
German Customs does not give out information about packages in their posession.
There are ways to file claims, but they take time (probably weeks rather than days)
and can't be done by outsiders.

Now, let's play Devil's advocate and say Karsten had started a thread about not receiving a shaft
he paid for thru paypal 6 weeks ago and asking for advice.
What do you think the advice would be? We'd all be telling him to file a claim with paypal and if the
payment was made thru Credit Card to cancel that payment too.

As it turns out Karsten figured that out by himself and did file a claim with paypal for an item
he paid for weeks ago, but still doesn't have in his posession.
That's when the poop hit the fan, and where things went really wrong.

I'm gonna have to side with Karsten here, no doubt.
Having his name dragged thru the mud like this is unacceptable.
As stated, I believe that cbi1000 sent the shaft when he said he did, I don't doubt that either.

However, I believe that a seller's responsibility doesn't end there.
It ends when the product is in the hands of the buyer AND the buyer is happy with what he got.
Failure of a third party (German Customs or USPS) to do their job DOES NOT alleviate the
seller from this responsibility.

So, what should be done?
The buyer should be refunded and if the shaft eventually does turn up it should be paid for once again.
Starting this thread......big mistake if you ask me. Have it removed.
More and better communication could and should have prevented this.

gr. Dave
 
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i'm going to Germany this Sunday, i'll be in Munich. I didnt read this thread but I do know that Fed-X is the best way to ship things there. If i can do anything here lat me know, i'll be there for only 2 weeks, i'm going back to Germany this summer to live for a few months. I spent 5 months there last year.
 
Double-Dave said:
My take on all of this, keep in mind I have done recent business with both Karsten and cbi1000.
Both our deals went well, everything was shipped and paid for fast.

The deal I had with Karsten bounced because I made a mistake in my description.
It was also for a BCM 314 Shaft, which turned out to be 3/8x10 instead of 3/8x11 as I described it.
I off course gave Karsten a refund and he gave me back the shaft.

As luck would have it the deal I had with cbi1000 was also for a 314-2 BCM threads,
and I got the shaft in good condition as described.

So I have no reason to believe either cbi1000 or Karsten are anything but honest.
I believe cbi has shipped the shaft long ago, however I also believe Karsten hasn't received it yet.

I have contacted German Customs myself in an effort to find out what is going on with the package.
I was unable to find out anything about this package,
German Customs does not give out information about packages in their posession.
There are ways to file claims, but they take time (probably weeks rather than days)
and can't be done by outsiders.

Now, let's play Devil's advocate and say Karsten had started a thread about not receiving a shaft
he paid for thru paypal 6 weeks ago and asking for advice.
What do you think the advice would be? We'd all be telling him to file a claim with paypal and if the
payment was made thru Credit Card to cancel that payment too.

As it turns out Karsten figured that out by himself and did file a claim with paypal for an item
he paid for weeks ago, but still doesn't have in his posession.
That's when the poop hit the fan, and where things went really wrong.

I'm gonna have to side with Karsten here, no doubt.
Having his name dragged thru the mud like this is unacceptable.
As stated, I believe that cbi1000 sent the shaft when he said he did, I don't doubt that either.

However, I believe that a seller's responsibility doesn't end there.
It ends when the product is in the hands of the buyer AND the buyer is happy with what he got.
Failure of a third party (German Customs or USPS) to do their job DOES NOT alleviate the
seller from this responsibility.

So, what should be done?
The buyer should be refunded and if the shaft eventually does turn up it should be paid for once again.
Starting this thread......big mistake if you ask me. Have it removed.
More and better communication could and should have prevented this.

gr. Dave


Stimmt!!!!

what else can you say really?
I you buy something and it doesnt turn up..then you file a claim.... pretty standard operation.. ...



Fatboy.... I am going to be relocating to Stuttgart here soon....we have to hook up sooner or later
 
no need

sneak_peter said:
bashing bump!

Only told my side of the story.

Again, you got your money back and hopfully someday the shaft will turn up.

If it doesn't you have cash to purchase another one.
 
Just curious as to why you would sell/ship to Germany or or European countries when we have 300,000,000 million people right here in the USA.

Are you saying that this guy from Germany was the ONLY buyer you had?
 
bring it to an end like a man!

cbi1000 said:
Only told my side of the story.

Again, you got your money back and hopfully someday the shaft will turn up.

If it doesn't you have cash to purchase another one.

do you think, refunding money can offset a columny!

i have had a lot of trouble, spent time and money for around 20 phone calls with dhl and customs.
...apart from the discomfort, you started with this thread!

so, you can bring it to an end right now! you know what i mean...
 
first come first serve

Dawgie said:
Just curious as to why you would sell/ship to Germany or or European countries when we have 300,000,000 million people right here in the USA.

Are you saying that this guy from Germany was the ONLY buyer you had?

He was the first to say he wanted it. I've sent items to japan, singapore, Nutherlunds, etc. Never with any issue.

I'm sure he will get the shaft someday. I belive the shaft is in customs. I understand wanting a refund for an item he has not yet recieve.

But to tell me i sent a empty box, and then to say i got it back is a joke.

If you do business long enough something like this happens i guess.

Good luck to him.
 
sneak_peter said:
do you think, refunding money can offset a columny!

i have had a lot of trouble, spent time and money for around 20 phone calls with dhl and customs.
...apart from the discomfort, you started with this thread!

so, you can bring it to an end right now! you know what i mean...

Kristy,

what more do you want? You customs issue would have been there regardless of this thread.

There are some on here that think you are a great guy and i'm not.

There are some on here that think i'm a great guy and you are not.

And some who just don't give a crap.

I'm sorry this has happened, trust me, there is NO ONE on this forum that wishes you got the shaft more then me.

Dear God, please please please let this shaft find it's new owner. Amen.

I will no longer post to this thread. I have said and done everything in my power to make you satisfied.

cbi out! LOL.
 
it's not over

cbi1000 said:
Kristy,

what more do you want? You customs issue would have been there regardless of this thread.

There are some on here that think you are a great guy and i'm not.

There are some on here that think i'm a great guy and you are not.

And some who just don't give a crap.

I'm sorry this has happened, trust me, there is NO ONE on this forum that wishes you got the shaft more then me.

Dear God, please please please let this shaft find it's new owner. Amen.

I will no longer post to this thread. I have said and done everything in my power to make you satisfied.

cbi out! LOL.


craig,

i'm not satisfied yet. you know why. even if you or other members think, i'm not a great guy, what is your godgiven right: you cannot draw someones name in the mud, shrug your shoulder and disappear!

i will give a bump to this thread again and again!

and my name is karsten.
you can find it on the top of this thread. everytime, you look at this page...
 
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