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i went to my friends house and showed him this tread.he read it and said what am i crazy.do you really want this for20 days.no i don't.i thought this might be a good thing for some cue maker.to much hassle.so i am ending this thread.this is the second one i ended.thought i'd mention it before someone else brings it up.my intensions are good.i had one bid,i'll pm him and explain.this thread is ended as far as i'm concerned.no bids no cues to be made.not angry with anyone. george i hope i ended this thread correct.oh well












the cue market is slow.there are a lot of great cue makers on this forum.here is my purposal.i will take bids for someone to build me two matching cues.the bidding will include price of both cues+ shipping and when the cue will be finished.this will serve as a tie breaker.on 9-22 the bidding will end,if there is a tie in price,i will let the bidders have two more days,if still tied on 10-1.the time to get me the cue will be the tie breaker.if still tied i will pick a name out of a hat.really.i will post the lowest bid each night,around 8 o'clock, just the bid and finished date.when i get the low bid that cue maker will receive the full amount on 10-2 by paypal.i want to buy the cue on 10-1 as that is my birthday.any help in keeping the post fresh will help. 1st cue-29in solid bacota,2 in ivory like butt cap.8 ivory like dashes 1/2 in up from the cap.1/2in long ivory capped flat faced joint with a 3/8-10 alumimum pin.8 ivory like dash rings 1/2 in below the joint.29in 13mm shaft with the best pro taper the cue maker likes.1/2in ivory shaft collar with 8 ivory like dashes 1/2 in above the collar.1/2in ivory ferrul with pad and a pressed triangle tip.the ivory joint will total 1in. 2nd cue-29in solid bacota with a 2in ivory like butt cap.a 1/2in ivory like joint with a stainless steel sleve,flat faced,3/8-10 stainless steel pin.the best break taper the cue maker likes.1/2in ivory like ferrul with a barringer break tip that i will provide,unless the maker has one.the shaft size to be 13.50mm.as close to 19oz as can be for both cues.as close to 4oz shafts as can be.when i receive the wining bid i will post the amount and the cuemaker,if he or she wants,upon receiving the cues i will give a report.all bids are to be sent to my pm box.i'm sure i forgot something.i'll use what i forgot to bump it up.sounds good to me.let the bidding begin.any? george
 
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If I were a cuemaker I would find this post somewhat offensive. It tends to sound like you are looking for two free cues, or something close to that. Expecting many cuemakers to fall over themselves to make a cue for you, at bargain basement prices.

Why not just simply ask for bids for the proposed cues?
 
Great Cue Makers

Hi George,
If they are a Great cue maker they will not have to Bid to get your business .They will already have plenty of work .
Just remember you get what you pay for.
It would be best for you to just call some of the Great makers & get pricing from them, then get on their list if they are still taking orders.Some may give you a little break for ordering two cues & some may not.
Good luck on your endeavor
Tom
 
good advice all.and thanks.however there are some real good cuemakers who have not made a name for themsleves.who might just want to sell a couple of cues.salamander-your just not listening.and i'm not getting in a pi--ing contest with you.lets see how the cuemakers feel
 
I can give a cuemaker's opinion. I have no problem bidding on work but the biggest problem I have with this post is making a cue by Oct 1. Good luck keeping them straight.

Even when I have time and wood ready to start building a cue, it takes a minimum of six weeks.
 
the secondary cue market is slow but you are asking for cuemakers to custom build you two cues and bid against other cuemakers for your businness.i really don't think this is going to happen.by the way i know 4oz is considered a desirable weight for shafts,but not at 13.5mm.you should ask for 4.5oz shafts with 50 growth rings.
 
the secondary cue market is slow but you are asking for cuemakers to custom build you two cues and bid against other cuemakers for your businness.i really don't think this is going to happen.by the way i know 4oz is considered a desirable weight for shafts,but not at 13.5mm.you should ask for 4.5oz shafts with 50 growth rings.:eek:
 
ratcues said:
I can give a cuemaker's opinion. I have no problem bidding on work but the biggest problem I have with this post is making a cue by Oct 1. Good luck keeping them straight.

Even when I have time and wood ready to start building a cue, it takes a minimum of six weeks.
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It sounds to me he wants to have the decision made and pay for them by that time, but not have the cues made by that time....
 
thanks john.your right.ratcues-then you would bid to have the cue built in 6 or so weeks after i paided for it.thanks masonh thats what i want to find out.
 
I personally like the idea. While I agree you wont get Schick or Bender bidding to do your work, their are a lot of newer cue maker who are already selling cues cheap to get a name or giving a discount to do a review on this forum he is offering to do just that. "Fair exchange is no robbery".... the cue maker gets recognition and maybe work is slow so it keeps him busy and the buyer gets the best possible price.... Everyone is happy. Good luck to you sir!!!

Mike
 
Sorry I am around a year out on custom orders. I would not recomend buying any cue that is made in 1 month. It simply does not leave enough time to assemble and turn the butt down to size unless rushing the job. Not trying to offend you just trying to help. Are these cues just straight wood with no wrap? Chris.
 
Its better to not want them rushed. As many have already said, it takes time to properly turn them. I wouldn't want any cuemaker taking shortcuts just to meet a deadline. ;)
 
I can see how this post seems a little awkward....but I think it could ultimately be a good thing. Now, I don't know that it's anyone's business what the offers are...

but I think that if people see a couple of cuemakers putting theirselves out there to make a matching pair like that, then someone else might step up and buy some cues from them as well. Some people are just afraid to go to the cuemaker, but you are, in a sense, bringing the cuemakers onto the forum and people may notice.

I will say though....it may help to post something in the "ask the cuemaker" section to the affect of: "I want a matching pair....what will this cost me and who can do it?" if you do that, I think that would get a few of the cuemakers that don't watch the wanted/for sale section.
 
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I have wood that has been hanging for 3+ years already cut and ready to assemble as far as Bocote just to clear that up..
I could core the forearm if you like that solves that problem also..

Thanks

Chad
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he doesnt want anything made in a month. he was saying he wanted to make a decision on who to purchase the cue from in a month.
 
Varney Cues said:
Its better to not want them rushed. As many have already said, it takes time to properly turn them. I wouldn't want any cuemaker taking shortcuts just to meet a deadline. ;)
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He's just trying to have the decision of who will make them and pay for them by that date. He isn't wanting someone to finish the cues by that date....
 
A lot of cuemakers on AZ do not frequent this (wanted/for sale) forum. They do, however, look at the "Ask the Cuemaker" forum. You may want to post this over there. Should be interesting!
 
Hm, to each his own.

However, to me, waiting for the cue is something like looking forward to Christmas - having your own custom build is part of the fun, and rushing the maker would somehow reduce the custom's status to that of a production cue.

If price and availability are more a concern than having a word in the ongoing build process, then buying a Dominiak or even a regular production cue might be a better option. When I chose my cuemaker, I read a lot about the reputation of the "affordable" cuemakers and about their work. I have then contacted two cuemakers and found that their pricing scheme is not that far apart. However, dealing with them was entirely different: While one of them was too busy to answer my mails in a timely fashion, the other responded extremely fast. We fixed the general design (wood, number of points, number of inlays etc.) in one day and he was able to give me a price in one day. However, his backlog is 8-10 months, and the cue will be finished in November or later. That's fine with me, as the timespan gave him and me lots of opportunity to contemplate the design of the inlays. I gave him some samples of what I would like in the inlays, and he came up with his own design which fits my taste extremely well. The inlays were done as a prototype in a mock-up-butt, and as he found that the choice of colours left room for improvement, he interchanged the wood-selection for butt-sleeve and inlays, showing me both prototypes for approval.

After going through these experiences, I would never ever base my decision on the ETA, and (within reasonable limits) also not on the price.

Fwiw, I as a european customer, can't imaging going through this process with an american cuemaker without the benefit of e-mail. This design-process would not be possible without fast communication. Sending letters over the Atlantic to exchange ideas and pictures would simply not happen.

I may be wrong, and am - as always - trapped in my own opinions, but it would be interesting to learn other's opinions on this.

Regards,

Detlev
 
while ur post was informative and insightful i would like to point out again that he is not rushing anyone to make the cue. he wants to make a decision of who he should buy the cue from in a month. that is he wants to find his cuemaker by oct. he doesnt want the cue to be done by oct.
 
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