Big-time pool dispute plays out in Solano courtroom
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I posted it because I say it on the RANT, and want people to see the outcome.
To effectively argue this in court he would have had to show how collusion affects a calcutta, which is illegal in most states. Its the only thing that could be affected by such an agreement, unless there were point standings / seeding for future tournaments at stake.
One of the issues is the prize money is not separated by a significant amount to make participants think twice about doing this. Happens in pool, and poker regularly.
JV
One of the issues is the prize money is not separated by a significant amount to make participants think twice about doing this. Happens in pool, and poker regularly.
JV
I've seen people do it all the time once they are in the cash. Or the round right before. If you are playing for the a paid spot, there could be a deal to toss the loser the entry fee back or something.
The only time something like this could be cheating is when someone agrees to do a full split and it does not matter who wins. I don't see how having the loser get an extra few bucks would make the winner play any less hard.
JV
If I were the judge (which thank God I'm not) I would have found Tony's excuse much more believable had he actually DONE what he said he was INTENDING to do with the prize funds.
Kevin
Glad the ruling was right
The ruling had nothing to do with being right, but what could and could not be proved, ie cheating. The statement " no evidence of unfair practice" just means the defense did a poor job in proving there was cheating.
Just another example of the type of practices commonly accepted in pool that does nothing but bring dishonor to the game all for a buck.
Kind of like holding a big pool tournament and not paying the winners
ya aint been around pool if you havent heard of a "saver",
another great day for pool, i remember going to Reno in 85 until 91 saw some great events there Gene Starry who started the USPPA was ok with me, he was kind of strange but the players got paid.
"Don't take the law into your own hands; You take them to court" -Doug Llewelyn
Actually, having a saver is not cheating, or even really a bad thing. No-one is going to toss a game when two players have a saver. Just that the loser gets a bit more and the winner gets a bit less. Like I said in an earlier post, if they decided to do a 50/50 split and maybe arrange a winner beforehand, that is something to be complaining about.
A saver is basically changing the payouts a bit.
AL, with all due respect, players have to do savers now more than ever. Costs are too high and chopping it up to cover costs is just the way it is. It just aint talked about much, but with so little $$$ guys do savers 3 -4 matches in on the tournament for the entry fee is very common Some guys do savers before the first ball is hit. Its insurance you dont go 2 and out and lose 100% of your costs and time. There are more transactions going on than you would ever know. And thats what it takes to get players to show up. its their biz not ours. And I'm done talking about it.
As for Tony, I have no beef with him, but when you run a event you pay the pledged amount of $$$, no matter what the players do. Thats the weakest excuse I ever heard for not paying off. And Tony knows better, he is a great player.
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alstl...Annagoni is guilty any way you look at it. The problem for Jeff will be actually GETTING anything out of the judgement. If Annagoni declares BK Jeff will still get nothing. In that case, there might be a whole group of people who might like to have a little "talk" with Mr. Annagoni, and perhaps extract their "pound of flesh"! 
While I sort of agree with you, in principle, the truth is savers have been around forever, and nobody has ever withheld prize money payments because of them...right or wrong, so Annagoni would be in no position to be the first.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
While I sort of agree with you, in principle, the truth is savers have been around forever, and nobody has ever withheld prize money payments because of them...right or wrong, so Annagoni would be in no position to be the first.Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
flash5153...Actually, you missed it, because there was about a 100 page thread about this. It was a sticky for a really long time.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
alstl...Annagoni is guilty any way you look at it. The problem for Jeff will be actually GETTING anything out of the judgement. If Annagoni declares BK Jeff will still get nothing. In that case, there might be a whole group of people who might like to have a little "talk" with Mr. Annagoni, and perhaps extract their "pound of flesh"!
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
If Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson got together at the end of a big golf tournament and decided to split the prize money they would be banned for life to protect the integrity of the game.
Savers have been around forever and what network is carrying next week's pro pool tournament?
Personally, I think it would be cool if those two got to the last hole, and just flipped a coin for 1st place...that would be SERIOUS gamble, and would take gigantic balls! LOL
As far as the pool tournament...I believe the answer would likely be ESPN Star, since most of the tournaments are in the far east!
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
As far as the pool tournament...I believe the answer would likely be ESPN Star, since most of the tournaments are in the far east!
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com