Biggest Cue Making Company

What I find troubling is: 3 pages of not answering the OP question (or very few attempts). I guess my useless contribution can add to the 'troubling'. I would love to know why a question always ends in a debate about unrelated crap. I would love to see blank threads instead of wading through garbage hoping to find the answer.

Now, to the OP. I don't know who the largest is or the revenue generated, but I can tell you that years ago I had meetings with Dufferin in regards to supplying shaft wood. If I could meet quality, they wanted to order 80,000 units per month. To me, that is a crap load of potential cues. Canada Billards was interested in 120,000 - 160,000 a month, but I don't know if they actually built cues or just wanted to resell. CB was shipping overseas out of port in Halifax.
 
Jason Robichaud said:
What I find troubling is: 3 pages of not answering the OP question (or very few attempts). I guess my useless contribution can add to the 'troubling'. I would love to know why a question always ends in a debate about unrelated crap. I would love to see blank threads instead of wading through garbage hoping to find the answer.

Now, to the OP. I don't know who the largest is or the revenue generated, but I can tell you that years ago I had meetings with Dufferin in regards to supplying shaft wood. If I could meet quality, they wanted to order 80,000 units per month. To me, that is a crap load of potential cues. Canada Billards was interested in 120,000 - 160,000 a month, but I don't know if they actually built cues or just wanted to resell. CB was shipping overseas out of port in Halifax.
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Okay, the referee has called a foul on Jason: Touching the original question of the thread.

BIH for other posters!
 
bdorman said:
Okay, the referee has called a foul on Jason: Touching the original question of the thread.

BIH for other posters!
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Ok I'll take BIH here... Here is a another Chinese "builder" flexing thought... I guess Predator (and other) see the writing on the wall building/manufacturing out of the US.

I still love my Predator Throne Cue... Fest your eyes on this: :wink:

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=330750
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Kao-Kao or one of the other handfull of Chinese outfits would be the largest cuemaker's in the world...
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There you go! Thanks Corey. The biggest manufacturers of all things pool related are now in China, catering to the HUGE domestic market. There are literally millions of pool tables in pool rooms there, mostly 9' rounded snooker pocket Eight Ball tables. I think the largest pool table companies are selling over 100,000 tables a year! I wonder how big the cloth business, the slate business, the chalk business, etc. etc. is there?

I'm sure the largest cue companies dwarf anything we have here to answer your question.
 
Predator, Dufferin and Lucassi are all made in China by a company called Taican.
They make more cues than any other company in the world.

Bill S.
 
bstroud said:
Predator, Dufferin and Lucassi are all made in China by a company called Taican.
They make more cues than any other company in the world.

Bill S.
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Dont think so. Kao Kao produces more cues than Taican does as far as I know. Also if we consider the type of cues sold at Walmart, Kmart, Sports Authority etc.. then it's possible that the producers of those cues dwarf Taican and Kao Kao together.

Kao Kao once produced a 500,000 cue order for Marlboro's coupon catalog.
 
Maybe a less emotional question would be which brand or collectively owned group of cue brands sells the most in the US. That, I am 99% sure is McDermott and their various sister brands (Star, etc).

Do they make them or own factories....I don't freaking know or own any cues with their name on them.
 
bstroud said:
Predator, Dufferin and Lucassi are all made in China by a company called Taican.
They make more cues than any other company in the world.

Bill S.
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I can't help but to wonder if that's where all of the cue designs you harvested from the DYD contest ended up. BTW, this isn't wild speculation on my part, I heard that this may have been the case. :angry:

You are a legend and a weasel.

best,
brian kc
 
So would this be an OB or a Joss? This was copied off AZ MARKETPLACE


The OB J-Line Pool Cue butts are designed and engineered by OB Cues and manufactured by Joss Cues in Maryland. The J-Line cues combine technology and good looks at very affordable prices. They are 100% Made in the USA. OB cues feature a weight system which allows easy and economical weight changes. The J-Line Cues all come with a choice of either an OB-1, OB-2, OB Classic or OB Classic Pro Shaft. With nine different models to choose from, you're sure to find one that fits your style.
 
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all of you are incorrect. There's is a place in Florida making one offs of custom cues at a rate that none of the companies mentioned can handle. My vote is on Dale Perry. :-) How could you guys leave him out?
 
PolarBear said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all of you are incorrect. There's is a place in Florida making one offs of custom cues at a rate that none of the companies mentioned can handle. My vote is on Dale Perry. :-) How could you guys leave him out?
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Compared to other cue companies, he really doesn't make that many cues at all.
 
I thought I'd revive an old thread, as I think many of us, especially business oriented folks, are kind of interested.

I just queried google: U. S. market share of pool cues. I found little information, mostly because business research companies mostly rely on SEC filings of publicly traded companies for in-depth information. Most production pool cue companies in the US are not publicly traded.

At any rate, one report I found stated approx.: McDermott $40MM, Predator $30MM, Cuetec $20MM. I have little faith this is accurate.

As an aside, just to look at volume, Viking said a couple of years ago that they made 7500 cues per year, but had the capacity to do 50,000. Just for reference.

Any further input from anyone?
 
There are a few Taiwan/Chinese outfits that have 40,000 cues A MONTH capability. Universal(was Taican), KaoKao, Weilu(makes Peri and others) all can crank em out by the boatload. No US based makers come close.
 
Just look at a pool pro event player's field: pool cues from Predator are at least 50%.
If we watch asia, Peri is dominating by far.
If we look at carom, Longoni is dominating by far...so, there is not a straight answer to that question.
 
891014+1 said:
Just look at a pool pro event player's field: pool cues from Predator are at least 50%.
If we watch asia, Peri is dominating by far.
If we look at carom, Longoni is dominating by far...so, there is not a straight answer to that question.
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Predator sponsors heavily. However, Predator does not have much low-price selection. Looking around my leagues, Predator is well behind McDermott, as just an example, in cue volume.

Heck, I have four McDermott Star Lucky cues as house cues for my own table, even though I play with a Cuetec.
 
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Brunswick probably the longest cue. builder. Rambo, palmer, paradise, balabuska, and many other custom cue makers used the hoppe design points and butts.
 
1sttbone said:
Brunswick probably the longest cue. builder. Rambo, palmer, paradise, balabuska, and many other custom cue makers used the hoppe design points and butts.
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Uh.. pretty sure the "Hoppe" points look was first leveraged off older Brunswick cues like the 26 1/2 but the unique two-piece design of the Hoppe Professional was the brainchild of one of their employees named Herman.

May want to revise your list of builders who "used" the Hoppe design
 
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