Bill Incordona vs John Hager $10000

Russ I see what you are saying, but about the Efren vs Earl TCOM match- The first two days, Earl's break was working and Efren's wasnt. Earl was breaking great, squatting the cueball, and he started putting three and four packs together, consistently. Efren was hard pressed to make a ball on the break, and if he did, he rarely had a shot. Efren didn't dog more than just a handful of shots the ENTIRE race to 120. He just couldn't catch up to Earl in the first two days, because Efren couldn't string enough racks.

In the last day, Efren's gear kicked in. He was visibly exhausted, but once he got down on the table, he let loose some of the most spectacular 9ball I have ever seen. In the final tape of the series, out of 30 racks, Efren broke and ran about 20 of them. Efren started breaking the balls like Bustamante. He was smashing the living shit out of the rack, even harder than Earl was in the first two days. In the last day, Earl dogged two makeable shots, and got two bad rolls. That's what cost him the whole thing.

Efren turned into this offensive juggernaut and Earl couldn't believe what was happening. That was one hell of a match!



This guy is full of ishttt!!! So are you saying Earl would have offered Efren a spot. I doubt that. Earl had his chance to beat Efren in nine ball which by the way the only game on a pool table he would have a prayer at.
 
This guy is full of ishttt!!! So are you saying Earl would have offered Efren a spot. I doubt that. Earl had his chance to beat Efren in nine ball which by the way the only game on a pool table he would have a prayer at.

wow... 1st post and you're replying to a almost 4 and 1/2 year old thread.

Cool!!!
 
Bill and John Drew are playing right now at Diamonds Billiards {the new room in Dallas} for $10000/ The match is 1-pocket, 7 ahead.

They are in the middle of the last game of the evening and will resume play tomorrow evening. Right now Bill 3 games ahead. Good action!

I will post more as I get the long distance report.

WOW i barely even remember this match now. Gettin old I guess. Lot's of water under the bridge too.
 
I take it you thought Earl and Efren played even back then? PA leeze. The only reason Earl came so close is because Efren dogged his arse off for a LONG period of time.

Russ

Have you even watched the match? Efren dogged nothing in that match, he was not breaking as well as Earl and every time Earl got control of the table he ran multiple racks. If you are going to comment on it at least do so with some facts and not complete BS.

<edit> ok this thread is freaking old, but still give Earl his freaking due, the guy flat out outplayed Efren until the last day when Earl blew up and Efren was allowed to come back and win. If Earl on the last day played like Earl on the first day nothing Efren could have done would have kept him from losing that match. It was one of the first in many times that Earl's head lost him a match he should have won.
 
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I guess for 10K, it would have to be a multi-day kind of race. It just wouldn't feel like you got your money's worth otherwise :P

If I could go off-topic for a second...

I gotta admit, I don't understand 'ahead' races. With alternating breaks and two almost even players (ARE these guys almost even?), it seems like 7 ahead shouldn't happen unless fatigue is a factor. But it sounds like they get to take breaks and sleep. So if both players are close, who's to say if 7 ahead will ever happen? And if it does, does it really mean something or is just kind of a statistical fluke?

I'm thinking of the color of money match (race to 120 between efren and earl that was decided by only 3 games). Eventually efren won, but if they had decided to play an ahead race instead, the only guy who got ahead much was earl (by 8 racks). So if they had been playing 7-ahead, the 'wrong' guy would have won. And if they had played to 10 ahead they might have ended up playing for months constantly being stalemated.

I guess my point is, even the race to 120 wasn't enough to point out a clear cut winner in their case, and an 'ahead' race could easily have led either to either a 100 year stalemate or the wrong guy winning. It's even theoretically possible for the guy who gets 7 ahead to have actually won fewer games (as earl did after 120). I hate to think that this 10,000 bucks might actually just be pure gambling, like flipping a coin but with lots of hard work.

I was also wondering, how much big action (like 10,000) is happening in the usa (or anywhere for that matter) at any given moment. Are top players doing this kind of thing every day with each other or is 5-digit betting pretty rare? I haven't even seen a game played for thousands of dollars before (outside of tournaments) in my area. If I'm on the East Coast, where can I go to watch money games like this? Just new york, or also NJ and... FLA? boston?!


Atlanta has had some good action recently. Most of the time the better player would want to play a head set and the weaker of the two is better off in a race. Easier to win by one than by eight. Playing a headset is almost like playing by the game, but putting a standard on the length of play and also insuring a player of winning a specific amount of money. For instance 8 ahead for ten thousand would be like saying let's play some 1250 a game and you can't run and hide when you get four games loser or winner.
 
were they playing even? id thought John be the favorite though Billy certainly has the experience

John didnt have no edge,4or5 years ago when this was played,he would today ,but not then!if they did play today INCARDONA,will still find a way to get the money,that u can count on!
 
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