Blue Diamond Chalk

[Mark Griffin]

Chalk

I have not read the entire thread...so if this was mentioned I apologize. ..

BUT a few years ago my sources told me that Blue Diamond is identical to another major brand of blue chalk.

That is what I have heard on several occasions. I think Blue Diamond has done a very good job of marketing their product. But the packaging probably costs more than the product.

Mark Griffin

 

[BigDogatLarge]

Chalk???

What is this thing, chalk, you speak of??? I use brylcreme. A little dab'l doya...

Dwight

 

[Fatboy]

I have not read the entire thread...so if this was mentioned I apologize. ..

BUT a few years ago my sources told me that Blue Diamond is identical to another major brand of blue chalk.

That is what I have heard on several occasions. I think Blue Diamond has done a very good job of marketing their product. But the packaging probably costs more than the product.

Mark Griffin

i agree, if there is a difference, and I emphasise "if" it might have a bit more blue pigment in it, it does appear richer in color, which accounts for looking like it its holding on better-after a shot or two. It makes my hands sticky and darl blue, other chalk dosent as much. the way I chalk my hands get ALOT of chalk on them and my shafts get triple dirty. I dont like it.

I use pre-flag real old Master and its the best.

 

[The Saw]

i agree, if there is a difference, and I emphasise "if" it might have a bit more blue pigment in it, it does appear richer in color, which accounts for looking like it its holding on better-after a shot or two. It makes my hands sticky and darl blue, other chalk dosent as much. the way I chalk my hands get ALOT of chalk on them and my shafts get triple dirty. I dont like it.

That sounds exactly like Triangle Chalk to me.... John Barton said in another thread recently that he was told Master and Triangle were the same chalk and that Tweeten packaged Master for the American market and Triangle for the European market. But my experience with Triangle is much like what you are saying, darker pigment and holds better. I love the stuff and IMO is different than Master. I have some somewhere, I just need to figure out where.....

 

[berlowmj]

chalk & testosterone

1) All chalk is not the same, some has more grit and some has less grit. The grit is a filler that is designed to make the chalk rough up the leather of a tip as it is applied, kinda like a scuffer and adhears better. The hardness of your tip will also effect how Chalk will adhear to your tip. The old Masters formula, was the best Chalk I have ever used, it had just the right amount of fill mixed and compressed with the raw Chalk. I have not found it equal to date, thank God I still have more than a Gross of the Old Stuff, along with half a Gross of the Triangle for the 1960's which was also just as good.

2) No, as stated above the type of fill used in Chalk will definately effect how well a Chalk works. However, if the fill and the Chalk combination are not blended properly or if too much fill is used the results will be terrible like most Chalks today.

3) Phenolic Tips do not even need to be chalked at all. Their surface can act as Chalk if the surface is properly maintained, and the user knows how to use that type of tip.

4) Sang Lee Chalk is a promotional item, I knew Sang personally and when he was playing in a National or World Championships he used Masters Blue or Green depending upon the color of the cloth, and that I can state without a doubt. Sang, also sold cues with his name on them, just like the Chalk, I mean why not get something for being a World Champion.

Hope this helps

Thank you so much for a response grounded in wisdom rather than testosterone.

Phenolic- What "maintenance" are you referencing? What do you mean by,
"the user knows how to use that type of tip?" Are there specific techniques associated with the phenolic?

The phenolic came on a Sledgehammer from Seyberts.

I did miscue until my stroke improved.

I play with a Universal shaft on a Players butt. I feel that this along with my Sledgehammer is a sufficient arsenal. I suspect that I will be dead long before my skill matches the capacity of the equipment.

 

[manwon]

That sounds exactly like Triangle Chalk to me.... John Barton said in another thread recently that he was told Master and Triangle were the same chalk and that Tweeten packaged Master for the American market and Triangle for the European market. But my experience with Triangle is much like what you are saying, darker pigment and holds better. I love the stuff and IMO is different than Master. I have some somewhere, I just need to figure out where.....

Below is a post I made to that thread in case you missed it.

John you are partly correct, the Chalk made today is the same. However, until the 1960's Triangle chalk was made by a different company called Kieckhelfer Manufacturing Company, not Tweeten. I don't know when Tweeten came on the seen, however, I do know that Kieckhelfer went out of business in the 1960's. I have found references to Kieckhelfer going back to the turn of the century and ending in the 1960's. In the late 1960's or very early 1970's Tweeten comes on the scene and starts selling Masters Chalk and re-markets Triangle under their name. I suspect they bought the rights for Triangle Chalk from Kieckhelfer, along with a number of other items. The above dates may vary slightly, but not much, like most on the forum know I an a major collector billiard related items, and that I have done a lot of research in this area.

Here is a link to the photo's.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=1599803&postcount=21

 

[manwon]

Thank you so much for a response grounded in wisdom rather than testosterone.

Phenolic- What "maintenance" are you referencing? What do you mean by,
"the user knows how to use that type of tip?" Are there specific techniques associated with the phenolic?

The phenolic came on a Sledgehammer from Seyberts.

I did miscue until my stroke improved.

I play with a Universal shaft on a Players butt. I feel that this along with my Sledgehammer is a sufficient arsenal. I suspect that I will be dead long before my skill matches the capacity of the equipment.

Whether you use Chalk or not on a Phenolic Tip it must be kept roughed up and in the diameter of at least a Nickle. Once a Phenolic tip becomes shiny like any tip you are prone to Mis-cues because the surface becomes slick. Roughness allows the Phenolic to grab, however, you must also understand a few basic principles to makes thing work effectively. If you are going to use English you should not use more than 1/2 a tip.

Hope this helps

 

[stumpie71]

Where can someone buy some Blue Diamond chalk. I would like to give it a try.

 

[eyesjr]

Thats admirable - I aspire to be just like you.But you forgot one thing - Those green boxes don't hurt my stroke!!! Stick around? I hardly get on here. I finally found the unsubscribe from thread feature so this junk isnt in my email everyday.

Where did all your green boxes go? Was that me?

:grin-devilish: :grin-devilish:

As I said in your red rep comment, If you don't like it here, why stick around?

Don't let the door hit ya.....