Boti Tribute Blank On Ebay

You've listed this cue here on AZ several times now, asking for PMs from folks that were interested in a price. I asked for a price, twice, never received an answer. Now it's on ebay... doesn't make much since.
 
half fast bankr said:
You've listed this cue here on AZ several times now, asking for PMs from folks that were interested in a price. I asked for a price, twice, never received an answer. Now it's on ebay... doesn't make much since.

I got the exact same thing from Lee in the past. Tried to buy a cue he offered for sale, he never responded to emails then puts it on ebay for sale.

I think he sometimes is afraid he will only get FAIR market value for an item by listing a price.
 
This is not the cue i listed on AZ that cue is done and ready to sell this is another blank i never finished you should get your facts straight before you post.And fair market value on the finished cue is $1700.00 2 shafts joint protectors that match cue is out standing looking...
again so there is no mistake the blank on ebay is not what i posted for sale
it is a unfinished blank of similar looks
 
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half fast bankr said:
You've listed this cue here on AZ several times now, asking for PMs from folks that were interested in a price. I asked for a price, twice, never received an answer. Now it's on ebay... doesn't make much since.
as i said the cues was differnat blank
Heres a picture i just took to clear up this matter
now if theres any price question its posted
top cue is the ebay blank
 

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I dont think you understand. This cue or that one, they are wondering why you dont return emails or pms when you are trying to sell something
 
Sorry, my mistake. Doesn't change the fact you asked for interested parties to respond, which I did, and never heard back again.
Not trying to bust your balls, just trying to get a price (on the previous one as you mentioned).

$1,700 is more than double the market value on that cue. If you doubt it, take a survey here on AZ. There are bonafide custom cue makers out there that have been making cues for years, and have reputations beyond 'start-up' companies, and they don't get that kind of money for a 4 pointed/windowed cue with a single Bushka ring.

Still, I must say, it is a gorgeous cue!!!!!
 
desmocourtney said:
What would it cost to reinstall the joint?

I can't believe you would sell it like that. :rolleyes:

Courtney

If you knew who you were dealing with then it should not surprise you.

Any Boti Hats for sale?
 
who are you?

gnaroz said:
If you knew who you were dealing with then it should not surprise you.

Any Boti Hats for sale?

40 posts no I trader points ??????????
maybe you should be a cuemaker then we would see just what you know.
yeah i remeber you now,your the guy that couldnt come up with $40.00 for the hat.
 
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Wholesale

I Tried To Buy Wholesale From This Gentleman All He Would Tell Me Is Prices On His Web Page Were Wholesale Which Guess Means He Doesn't Sell Wholesale
 
half fast banker said:
Sorry, my mistake. Doesn't change the fact you asked for interested parties to respond, which I did, and never heard back again.
Not trying to bust your balls, just trying to get a price (on the previous one as you mentioned).

$1,700 is more than double the market value on that cue. If you doubt it, take a survey here on AZ. There are bona fide custom cue makers out there that have been making cues for years, and have reputations beyond 'start-up' companies, and they don't get that kind of money for a 4 pointed/windowed cue with a single Bushka ring.

Still, I must say, it is a gorgeous cue!!!!!
I was wondering if you set the market price on cues posted here on AZ?
The reason i didn't answer you back is i knew you would make some ridiculous statement like you just did . the cue is as good as any out there I'm certainly not giving it away like some do on here i didn't need to sell it to pay my rent or eat i don't get hard up and give things away i set a price and stick to it if it sells so be it if it doesn't thats life see if you can get that cue made for 700.00 from a top cue maker they will laugh in your face not saying i am a top maker ,,but the cue is perfect. id say a viking OR J&J is what your after in that price range. this isnt my frist rodeo either .
 
brianna187 said:
I was wondering if you set the market price on cues posted here on AZ?
The reason i didn't answer you back is i knew you would make some ridiculous statement like you just did . the cue is as good as any out there I'm certainly not giving it away like some do on here i didn't need to sell it to pay my rent or eat i don't get hard up and give things away i set a price and stick to it if it sells so be it if it doesn't thats life see if you can get that cue made for 700.00 from a top cue maker they will laugh in your face not saying i am a top maker ,,but the cue is perfect. id say a viking OR J&J is what your after in that price range. this isnt my frist rodeo either .


I definitely do not set the price here on AZ, that's why I said take a survey. But I am apparently more in touch with cue pricing than others. I've been a collector for many years and have had the fortune of surveying many cues of many varieties, over many years.

Since you know almost nothing about me, you didn't answer me for some other reason, like you knew the price was outlandish to being with. Good call on your part I guess.

I'm sure you don't need the money, and your cue is as good as many others, but that is not what sells $1,700 cues. Names, History and reputations do, aside from obvious craftsmanship.

I'm also certain this is not your first rodeo. However, in the cuemaker world, you are barely a guppie, and even the middle sized fish don't get this much for a simple cue. I'm not going to name names, but there are many examples everywhere, here, ebay, all the brokers sites, etc.

Again, I do not doubt you've done well with that cue. I can tell you've taken pride in it throughout it's completion. That means a lot to guys like me that constantly order new cues only to be disppointed in the finer details. But the fact remains, I can go to any of the middle guys and get this cue made for less. And, have the next buyer actually recognize the name behind it to justify the price beyond the folks that you speak of like Viking and J&J.

I'll say it one more time, that is an absolutly gorgeous cue, and I would be proud to own it (if it hits right ;) )
 
Ok, the orignal argument says it's worth 1700 and then in a rebuttal it says 700. Which one is it?
MULLY
 
mullyman said:
Ok, the orignal argument says it's worth 1700 and then in a rebuttal it says 700. Which one is it?
MULLY

Well Mully, from the Mottey shop, Lee's avatar graphic it certainly would be $ 1700.00. But at that price there are only a handful of cuemakers that will get that for that cue. But the same cue from some others will be higher, but those cuemakers are the wunderkind of cue making. The majority will be lower. I only know Lee from his booths at VF and I certainly don't know about his cue making ability, so I can only comment on the approximate price others of a similarly slightly known reputation would charge.

JV
 
Thanks it did turn out fantastic.. all i will say is this over the past years doing the billiard selling thing as I have done I have gotten the chance to visit and work in many shops and have many top cue makers help me along. I will not mention names and not being a dummied I have picked up many things and learned tons of info from making points to inlays to turning wood, wraps etc. all kinds of things. Now I am not a top cue maker some of these guys have nothing going on but building cues some part time some full time. I have a sign business , rental properties,bought into a machine shop last year,also make all the all the Brianna products so making a cue or 2 is really hard to do, and I prioritize my money making in order since the billiards is really at an all time low point now. If i had nothing on my plate and could financially afford to just work on cues I do believe I could make a cue as nice, and as good hitting as anyone out there! I certainly have the machines and the knowledge to do so.Its easy for anyone to sit back and take pot shots at someones cue making ability but that same person should invest the dollars and time and the shows and events over the last 25 years that I did before they knock someones cue or products. over the years i have looked at many cues from many makers we all know that name is 85% of cue pricing.I have seen some cues from top makers that are not anywhere near as perfect as they should be but they command top money from name alone .As i said before ill set my price and stick to it setting a price and lowering it is poor business it shows someone has know confidence in there products . as for all our cue making products i set a fair price and make a good product I am not perfect we do make mistakes but we do learn from them and try to in prove from our mistakes. I know sometimes i have a quick temper and get upset with some posts this my nature i believe in what i do and will stand up for it.
 
I am not going to get into a flame war about this, but Lee does make some nice cues from time to time. This Boti tribute appears to be a nice example. Why not just let the market determine whether or not it is worth the asking price? I don't know him personally, but I have bought many of his items in the past, and have seen and spoken with him on many occasions at many shows, going back to the Glass City Open in the early part of this century.

I have also owned a few of his cues. The early ones were not real works of art, but his asking prices reflected that, and the craftsmanship has improved immensely over the years. I picked up a really nice cue from Lee at DCC last year, and it was very well made, and it played very nicely. I sold it to a real good money player down in the DC/Northern Virginia/Southern Maryland triangle. Although he had the ferrules changed to Ivory, he plays with it exclusively, and I am confident in saying that it has payed for itself many times over.

Right now, in a depressed economy, the game is struggling. I know of many, many pool rooms that have closed their doors over the last couple of years (at least 4 of them here in Maryland). Many fledgling cuemakers have also hung it up. A few of the better cuemakers are right about at retirement.

As I said, I am not taking a position on the value of this cue or anything else. I have not had the cue in my posession to look at the craftsmanship up close. I just think that the market will decide. I hate to see another argumentative thread on here, that is all.

Joe
 
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thanks Joe that was very nicely put i am also not saying i wouldnt consider
reasonable offers i realize things are on the slow side .......lee
 
I have found that there are some people that think if they can't get it cheeper than the asking price, They will pass. Which is there right. But it is our right to put a asking price on a item, and expect to sell at that price, or turn the offer down , without any hard feeling on either side. Thanks Jim
 
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