I recently got one of the regular "Break Rak" devices. I did not get directions with the product and can't figure out exactly how it works. Here is what I have discovered: There are 3 connecting tubes that are apparently for a 7ft, 8ft, or 9ft table. The longest one seems to be for a 9ft table and when I hooked it up and put the bow frame under the rails, the bungy cords were too long. My question is do you shorten the bungy cords up some how? I tried to shorten them but it appeared they were not meant to be shortened. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. I have been to their website and see how it is done but for some reason mine will not work properly and the problem is in the bungy cords.
Break Rak question
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$TAKE HOR$E said:
I have already been to the site, and I have the standard break rak, not they deluxe.
I had one that I sold, but I should remember how it works. IIRC there is a black piece that holds one loose end of the bungie in sort of a wedge. You pull it out and pull the cord up to tighten it a little.
Im sure this isnt real clear when reading it, so catch me next time at at the poolroom and I can show you how it works.
Woody
Im sure this isnt real clear when reading it, so catch me next time at at the poolroom and I can show you how it works.
Woody
...and he can pm him here, as well. He posts as ceebee.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Sompin2do said:
please dont....
please dont buy this product !!!!!!!! and if you already have one, throw it away. so i can be the only one to have it. ok ,maybe shane will probably want to keep his. but no one else should have one, and i mean it...dont let me catch you with one. sorry charlie , learning the break should'nt be this easy. lets just keep this between me and you, ok?
bd.
please dont buy this product !!!!!!!! and if you already have one, throw it away. so i can be the only one to have it. ok ,maybe shane will probably want to keep his. but no one else should have one, and i mean it...dont let me catch you with one. sorry charlie , learning the break should'nt be this easy. lets just keep this between me and you, ok?
bd.
Fatboy said:
What he said. Had mine out the other day and was thinking about all the non-believers...
I broke the balls 10x in the amount of time it would have taken me to rack 'em and walk back up to the head of the table.
There is no other product that compares.
Fatboy said:
I wasn't sure either, but MAN is it good. I can't believe how much of a difference it can make. As the last poster stated, you can break more in 10 minutes than you could in 10 hours racking your own. And the head ball is always tight on the BR!:thumbup:
FWIW
Here's my review from 2003
I was recently given a Break Rak by its inventor Charlie Bond. A few
months back Charlie and I got into a spirited discussion over the
merits of the Break Rak. Site unseen I told him my thoughts about the
Break Rak. At the time I doubted that the Break Rak would be a useful
tool in developing a consistent break. I also felt that the cost of a
Break Rak was extremely high and that for my money I would rather pay
someone to rack real balls for me. I told Charlie that I would never
consider buying one without first trying it out. He graciously agreed
to send me one free of charge to experiment with.
First of all you need to know that the Break Rak is a training
aid that develops cue ball control when using a hard break. It will
not give you any feedback as to how the balls spread. It sole purpose
is to provide feedback on where the cue ball ends up after breaking a
rack of 9 balls. To that end the Break Rak is a complete success, IMO.
I can say with complete honesty that I have better cue ball control
after using the Break Rak for one week. I used it about ? hour the
first time I set it up and again for about 20 minutes later that day.
Each day since I've used it about 15 minutes per day.
The next day I brought it to the pool hall and it met with mixed
reviews. The counter man and another player believed that it would
benefit their breaking ability. Neither one of them or I think that
anyone would rent it for use at the pool hall. Most pool players
believe that they know it all and any invention of this kind is a
gimmick. In my initial conversation with Charlie I called this product
a gimmick too. My thinking now is that the Break Rak is indeed a
gimmick, but not in a negative way.
In today's global marketplace we see new gimmicks all the time.
Some of us buy them and love them others sit back and settle for the
status quo. I own one of pools most expensive gimmicks the Predator
314 shaft. Golf is full of swing aids and training devices. Pool is
long over due for a truly effective break training device and the
Break Rak meets that need. It is now up to the marketplace to decide
if the Break Rak is worth the price. I'll not quote the retail price
here as it may have changed since it was first introduced. Charlie
will be in Valley Forge this March demonstrating and selling Break
Rak's.
In closing I want to acknowledge Charlie as a gentleman who
proudly stood behind his product and its merits. I admire his
ingenuity for a well-conceived product and wish him success with his
business
Paul Mon
I was recently given a Break Rak by its inventor Charlie Bond. A few
months back Charlie and I got into a spirited discussion over the
merits of the Break Rak. Site unseen I told him my thoughts about the
Break Rak. At the time I doubted that the Break Rak would be a useful
tool in developing a consistent break. I also felt that the cost of a
Break Rak was extremely high and that for my money I would rather pay
someone to rack real balls for me. I told Charlie that I would never
consider buying one without first trying it out. He graciously agreed
to send me one free of charge to experiment with.
First of all you need to know that the Break Rak is a training
aid that develops cue ball control when using a hard break. It will
not give you any feedback as to how the balls spread. It sole purpose
is to provide feedback on where the cue ball ends up after breaking a
rack of 9 balls. To that end the Break Rak is a complete success, IMO.
I can say with complete honesty that I have better cue ball control
after using the Break Rak for one week. I used it about ? hour the
first time I set it up and again for about 20 minutes later that day.
Each day since I've used it about 15 minutes per day.
The next day I brought it to the pool hall and it met with mixed
reviews. The counter man and another player believed that it would
benefit their breaking ability. Neither one of them or I think that
anyone would rent it for use at the pool hall. Most pool players
believe that they know it all and any invention of this kind is a
gimmick. In my initial conversation with Charlie I called this product
a gimmick too. My thinking now is that the Break Rak is indeed a
gimmick, but not in a negative way.
In today's global marketplace we see new gimmicks all the time.
Some of us buy them and love them others sit back and settle for the
status quo. I own one of pools most expensive gimmicks the Predator
314 shaft. Golf is full of swing aids and training devices. Pool is
long over due for a truly effective break training device and the
Break Rak meets that need. It is now up to the marketplace to decide
if the Break Rak is worth the price. I'll not quote the retail price
here as it may have changed since it was first introduced. Charlie
will be in Valley Forge this March demonstrating and selling Break
Rak's.
In closing I want to acknowledge Charlie as a gentleman who
proudly stood behind his product and its merits. I admire his
ingenuity for a well-conceived product and wish him success with his
business
Paul Mon
Give me a call, I sent you my phone number via a PM. Since you have discovered how to put the BowRod together, you are almost done.
Look at the black clips, they are made to be located at any desired point on the cord, by using the moded notch to secure the cord.
Call me about the correct tension.
Look at the black clips, they are made to be located at any desired point on the cord, by using the moded notch to secure the cord.
Call me about the correct tension.
Hey there Paul Mon... we haven't seen one another since Valley Forge. Thanks for the pat on the back..
The BreakRAK costs a couple bucks, that I agree. The price of aluminum is through the roof & then the machined parts have to be plated. The balls cost about $4.00 each & have to be machined too. This scenario repeats itself throughout the manufacture & assembly of this product.
The value is there, it's just a matter of one's needs.
If a person really wants to groove a Break Shot stroke, they can go to the Pool Room on Saturday morning & whack at rack after rack for one hour. The person will have table time invested. ($5 at 52 weeks = $260 for one year). If this is done 7 days a week, it would cost $1825.00
One thing to understand about breaking a rack of balls. They are not all perfectly round & not necessarily the exact same size, so we have what I call "a sack of variables" & THIS IS WHY A BREAK SHOT CAN'T BE REPEATED. If the balls were perfect, the break shot could be repeated & the balls would all go the same place, IF you could hit the rack in the exact same place.
So by using a sack of variables, a Cue Ball CONSTANT & you as the other sack of variables, how does one expect to learn something. It is difficult at best. Sample ?+2+?=? or 2+2+?= << easier equation to solve.
The BreakRAK is easy to use to develop a true stroke & cue ball control after impact.
Questions are easily answered & free, gimme a call.
The BreakRAK costs a couple bucks, that I agree. The price of aluminum is through the roof & then the machined parts have to be plated. The balls cost about $4.00 each & have to be machined too. This scenario repeats itself throughout the manufacture & assembly of this product.
The value is there, it's just a matter of one's needs.
If a person really wants to groove a Break Shot stroke, they can go to the Pool Room on Saturday morning & whack at rack after rack for one hour. The person will have table time invested. ($5 at 52 weeks = $260 for one year). If this is done 7 days a week, it would cost $1825.00
One thing to understand about breaking a rack of balls. They are not all perfectly round & not necessarily the exact same size, so we have what I call "a sack of variables" & THIS IS WHY A BREAK SHOT CAN'T BE REPEATED. If the balls were perfect, the break shot could be repeated & the balls would all go the same place, IF you could hit the rack in the exact same place.
So by using a sack of variables, a Cue Ball CONSTANT & you as the other sack of variables, how does one expect to learn something. It is difficult at best. Sample ?+2+?=? or 2+2+?= << easier equation to solve.
The BreakRAK is easy to use to develop a true stroke & cue ball control after impact.
Questions are easily answered & free, gimme a call.
Shane & Sarah used these in their Pool School this week and they are GREAT tools for learning the break. I know Shane owns one for himself that he spend several months using a few years ago when he was trying to perfect his break. I think the students that attended their school will agree that it was very beneficial having the BreakRAK's, the couldn't believe how much more efficient that is than actually having to rack the balls on every break.
Many times when players practice their break, they are more concerned with where the balls spread to rather than what happens with their cue ball so I think this definitely helps isolate the first important part about breaking. After you perfect that, then move on to how to adjust to make the balls spread well with different types of racks.
Many times when players practice their break, they are more concerned with where the balls spread to rather than what happens with their cue ball so I think this definitely helps isolate the first important part about breaking. After you perfect that, then move on to how to adjust to make the balls spread well with different types of racks.