Break with your fancy playing cue..?
- Thread starter Peer
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The break is the most important shot of the game...with a good break...basically, you win. Thats why I can't make my break cues fast enough. If there is something that works better...then I'm all for it. Its kind of like saying..."will it hurt to run track in my cowboy boots?" Sure you could do it...probably wouldn't hurt them...but why when its much easier with special designed track shoes. If you just want to be cheap and not buy a breakcue...then use a house cue...and try to take a little better care of your "player".
Good morning to you Purdman sir as well. Did you get your package, or did they reroute back to me?
KV
Sorry for the thread hijack Peer.
KV
Sorry for the thread hijack Peer.
If you have a good cue that was built right.. The only thing breaking is going to do to it is wear down your tip faster. I can and do break with all of my cues. Why would you want something unfamiliar in your hands on arguably one of the most critical shots of the game?
I agree with Varney that you can have specialized equipment made to break "harder" but I think most players at the higher level will agree accuracy, and moreso "repeatabillity" is the key to breaking, not crushing the rack.
Incidentally, I have a Joss sneaky (about 20 years old if I had to guess) that I'd put up against just about any break cue with a standard tip out there as far as how hard you can crush a rack with it.. It's flat amazing how hard I (and others) can break with it.. It's also been my playing cue for the last 4 months. The only benefit that I can tell of having a cue that crushes a rack is that you can put less effort into breaking harder, which in turn equals more accuracy in your stroke, which brings us back to repeatabillity.
DJ
I agree with Varney that you can have specialized equipment made to break "harder" but I think most players at the higher level will agree accuracy, and moreso "repeatabillity" is the key to breaking, not crushing the rack.
Incidentally, I have a Joss sneaky (about 20 years old if I had to guess) that I'd put up against just about any break cue with a standard tip out there as far as how hard you can crush a rack with it.. It's flat amazing how hard I (and others) can break with it.. It's also been my playing cue for the last 4 months. The only benefit that I can tell of having a cue that crushes a rack is that you can put less effort into breaking harder, which in turn equals more accuracy in your stroke, which brings us back to repeatabillity.
DJ
It's True, Every Word Of It
Breaking with my 'good' cue really hasn't affected it one little bit. My Moori medium tip is like new. Of course, we play winner breaks and I've only broken with my good cue seven times in the past eight years...
Doug
( I haven't even chalked up since 2004 )
Purdman said:
Breaking with my 'good' cue really hasn't affected it one little bit. My Moori medium tip is like new. Of course, we play winner breaks and I've only broken with my good cue seven times in the past eight years...
Doug
( I haven't even chalked up since 2004 )
Purdman said:I like the consistancy of my playing cue (tip). Breaking with it changes all that. Think about it. If the one ball is the smallest ball on the table (except the cueball) due to impact, what is breaking gonna do to your tip.
JMHO Purdman
Mornng Varney
I have to echo the Purdster here, why mess up your tip.
dedicated
I like a dedicated break stick (hint, hint- Mr. Varney). I generally would not use my playing cue because once I get a tip just how I want it, I like to have it that way as long as it will go. Getting a tip just right and getting used to it can be tough.
Peer said:
I like a dedicated break stick (hint, hint- Mr. Varney). I generally would not use my playing cue because once I get a tip just how I want it, I like to have it that way as long as it will go. Getting a tip just right and getting used to it can be tough.
I have used my high end cues to break in the past and I'm sure I will in the future as well. I have two j/b cues but sometimes I don't feel like getting them out. That being said, I generally take a bit off of the break, not that I break hard anyway...lol.
Who knows, with Colin's suggestions perhaps I can bring my break up to 12 year old girl speed from a measely 8 year old.
Who knows, with Colin's suggestions perhaps I can bring my break up to 12 year old girl speed from a measely 8 year old.
gforces1911 said:
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!! TO THE BACK OF THE LINE!!!
I actually crushed a few racks with yours today. It was flawed....
...so it'll be another year or two wait on an unflawed one!!! I know I have it...but pm me your shipping address again...I keep getting flashbacks to the book "The Firm" when I'm working on yours.
I've been breaking with my "playing" cue for 25 years. The shafts are fine and it still has the original Ivory ferrules.
Peer said:
Strange...I posted on this thread last night, as the 3rd post, and it showed up, but disappeared!
I had not voted, but I didn't think that mattered, to post a reply. My earlier reply: It doesn't damage your cue...I play and break with a $4000 Samsara...and FWIW, I haven't needed to change a tip in over two years...and I play every day.Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Varney Cues said:Thats why I can't make my break cues fast enough. If there is something that works better...then I'm all for it. Its kind of like saying..."will it hurt to run track in my cowboy boots?" Sure you could do it...probably wouldn't hurt them...but why when its much easier with special designed track shoes. If you just want to be cheap and not buy a breakcue...then use a house cue...and try to take a little better care of your "player".
When I hear that the break is the most important shot of the game and with a good break you....basically, you win, what does that mean?
Would that pertain to runout players? How does that work with a typical player, a league player or a shortstop? So if I break really good and get a ball in on the break say 75% of the time, does that mean I will win close to 75% of the time or 50% or.....? I'm trying to figure out the logic, I have heard that the break is the most important many times, the only time I have really seen that work is with the pro's. I 've been playing league for about 12 years and I don't see that happen that much or in local 9 ball tournaments. Thanks.
Basically it means that after the snap...and you've made a ball or two or three...and parked whitey...you & your Searing should be licking your chops at a nice game of 6 ball!!!HIRUN526 said: