Breaking with my Player

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8Ball48043

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So, I built myself a beautiful Arnot matched set. Player, with points, and Jump/Break without points. They are beautiful Bocote and BEM. Nice ring work, built light like I like. A beautiful set, but .....

I keep finding myself going back to breaking with my Playing cue.

Feels better in may hand. Feels familiar. Gives me the cue ball control that I like .... breaking or otherwise.

Am I the only one who breaks with their player?

Just curious.
 

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No. I use the same stick to break and play. I have an ivory ferrule / Kamui Tip and I have no problems what so ever..... At times I need to use the Gator Grip to scuff but that's it
 
I flip back and forth...depends which is working better on a given day.

That rock-like tip ain't always good!
 
I find myself using my player frequently in 9 ball for the same reasons. I'm not smashing the ball and like the controll of the leather tip. I use a triangle and have not seen any mushrooming or adverse effects.
 
No opinion on breaking with your playing cue. Just had to say that is a drop dead gorgeous set! :thumbup:
 
Nice cues........ it's funny how the most attractive cues are quite plain.

I mostly break with my player. The only time I get out my break cue is if the table conditions dictate that I have to smash the rack to sink balls.

I never have to resort to my break cue on a bar table.
 
I break and play with all my cues (no dedicated break cue). Grew up that way and don't see myself changing any time soon.

Cheers,
RG
 
For me, it depends on the break speed I intend to use. If I'm playing 9-ball and a softer, controlled break (15-20 mph) is working, then I will break with my player with a Sniper tip. If I'm playing 10-ball or 8-ball, though, where a 23+mph break seems to be most effective, I will use my j/b with the white diamond tip

I broke with my player 100% of the time when I used le pro tips, but I have found that layered tips (not just sniper) can be damaged after a couple of hours of breaking at 25+mph, and they are just too expensive to risk damaging them that way. I tried a layered tip on my break cue once (not sure what it was, but it was red and hard as a rock). After 2-3 hours of breaking 10-ball, two of the layers had almost completely disintegrated, and the tip fell apart when I pushed against the side of it. I haven't yet found a layered tip that can hold up (not delam) against a hard break. Perhaps the Kamui black can; it seems almost rubbery in a way.

Aaron
 
I have a nice Rick Howard custom jump/break that I haven't used in probably a year and a half. I break around 20-21 mph (avg) with my playing cue, ivory ferrule, kamui black soft tip and have never had any issues.

The way I see it, in rotation the break is huge. Why wouldn't I want to use the cue I am most comfortable with??

For some reason, I continue to carry the Howard cue in my case (in case I need to jump). I need to just buy a dedicated jump cue and carry that instead. I would like to get another two piece jumper.
 
Aaron_S said:
I haven't yet found a layered tip that can hold up (not delam) against a hard break. Perhaps the Kamui black can; it seems almost rubbery in a way.

Aaron
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You should try the Kamui Black. Look at my post above. I use one and break 21 mph. Not only does it not delaminate, I have yet to have one mushroom using it until it popped off. They are the best tip I have used to date.
 
brandoncook26 said:
You should try the Kamui Black. Look at my post above. I use one and break 21 mph. Not only does it not delaminate, I have yet to have one mushroom using it until it popped off. They are the best tip I have used to date.
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That's good to know. I think I will try a kamui black next. I tried one on a 12.5mm shaft, but not on my ordinary 13mm player yet. FWIW, I think a sniper might be ok with a sustained 21mph break too; ~25 is where the problems seem to start, for me at least.

Aaron
 
pwd72s said:
No opinion on breaking with your playing cue. Just had to say that is a drop dead gorgeous set! :thumbup:
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Thanks PWD. I'm really a big fan of bocote, cues that aren't real dark, and none of my cues have a wrap.
 
I used to break with one of my players that had a juma ferrule and a med tan kamui. Broke like a champ never had a problem with it. Actually kinda wish I still had that shaft.
 
I have a dedicated break cue, I put quite a bit of power behind my breaks and feel more comfortable doing that with a cue I care less about. My player has ivory ferrules and most of my shots don't have nearly as much power behind it like my break does, so I switch between them. I don't feel I have less control because I've been using the same break cue for years. I even used it as my player when going to unfamiliar places where I don't feel comfortable bring a custom.
 
Use whatever works best for you. You may want to rephrase "matched set" tho. ;) That should imply a little more than they lookalike.
 
You may not notice it, but the harder you break the faster the tip wears out. Nothing wrong with using your cue to break if you dont mind replacing tips more often.
 
Bambu said:
You may not notice it, but the harder you break the faster the tip wears out. Nothing wrong with using your cue to break if you dont mind replacing tips more often.
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I have access to the necessary equipment to replace a cue tip. So, that is not an issue.
 
8Ball48043 said:
So, I built myself a beautiful Arnot matched set. Player, with points, and Jump/Break without points. They are beautiful Bocote and BEM. Nice ring work, built light like I like. A beautiful set, but .....

I keep finding myself going back to breaking with my Playing cue.

Feels better in may hand. Feels familiar. Gives me the cue ball control that I like .... breaking or otherwise.

Am I the only one who breaks with their player?

Just curious.
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How light do you like? I like 16.0 oz for play and break.
 
JimS said:
How light do you like? I like 16.0 oz for play and break.
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Jim, I find that's it's interesting that you would ask THAT question. I like extremely light cues, for both playing and breaking. I got my matched set just under 18 ounces, but have built a couple of other cues in the 'just over' 16 ounce range.
 
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