Broken Schon Cue - Need Advice

powerlineman80 said:
I agree, I was playing with a friends custom and the agreement was if anything broke on the cue that was MY fault I had to pay to get it fixed. Well I was just standing there watching him shoot (and was far from mad) and dropped the cue on a tile floor. The tip broke slam in half and I paid for it. So yea I'd agree that if a cue hits the floor, its not always because someone is mad.

And I agree with others that Schon is not responsible for this. Dropping the cue is considered abuse, no matter if it was an accident or not.
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A cue hitting the floor has alot of force behind it..Somewhat like the karate people when they break blocks of ice with their hands...The force is transferred on down....YOUR a real stand up person to do the right thing and pay for it..I'm sure you earned everyone's respect by taking care of it....:)
 
I don't know how the insurance works in the US. But in my country the insurance-company might pay for the damage.
 
cuejoey said:
A cue hitting the floor has alot of force behind it..Somewhat like the karate people when they break blocks of ice with their hands...The force is transferred on down....YOUR a real stand up person to do the right thing and pay for it..I'm sure you earned everyone's respect by taking care of it....:)
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Oh yea I understand a small drop can destroy some cues, its the luck of the draw sometimes:eek: :D

Yea I held to my word. Of course I quit shooting with it after the accident because with my luck, I'd be paying for the cue:D Olivier's are NOT cheap:D :cool:

Its weird how one slip of the hand can cause a person a TON of money for dropping high dollar cues, etc. I really feel for the ones that drop them on accident and it costs them big time.
 
You wanted a cuemakers opinion, well you've got one. I have been making cues since 1986 & in that time have seen this often. This break is caused by breaking the balls with the cue & at the end of the stroke, LEANING on the cue, so that the shaft goes onto the table & bends. Even at 160 pounds a 19 once thin piece of wood doesn't have a chance. This type of breaking causes the flexable shaft to bend, until it gets to the joint, where it is stiffer. The joint area is the strongest, because of the 3 inch bolt in that area. Cues break in the area, just behind the end of the screw (just as this on did). It may take some time, but eventually small cracks are formed in the wood. Then one day you drop it or hit a ball off center & the wood can no longer flex, so it breaks. Your friends cue was not intended to be used in this way. IT WAS ABUSED. I have a box, with a dozen broken, just like yours...JER
 
He will not be happy to hear this. I think Profficient would be his best bet to save this cue. I think i'll send em a mail. Thank you guys for your oppinions.
 
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I have seen maybe 25 instances of just this type of problem and repaired about 10-12. I believe that the cuemaker in this instance cannot take the liability for repair. Had the break occurred immediately below the joint deco ring then it might be considered a flaw caused by the joint screw pocket being filled with too much glue, and the hydraulic pressure created excess stress when put together. But your break was far below this point and appears to have been caused by the sideways stress from dropping. Cues are built to absorb great stress from the ends only. I have to agree with the manufacturer in this case.

You are welcome to visit my website (www.triplecrosscues.com) and if you see something you like we may consider a trade in value for your cue. I hate to see freakish accidents ruin a person's feelings toward another cuemaker but things like this have occurred before. Sorry it happened to you.
Tom Gedris, Triple Cross Cues:cool:
 
I would do 1 of 2 things.
1.Send it to Evan and have him totally replace the forearm. If it is repaired, no telling how it would hit. And he would probably inspect the cue and see what he could see in the cue. He might even give your friend a discount on the repair charge if he deems the cue was not treated like a baseball bat.

2.Use it as a fish whacker. It will cost you probably 200-300 to fix it. And if you ever resell it I bet you couldnt get more than 300 for it anyway. Unless you dont tell anyone what has been done.

I say toss it and invest in another cue. JMHO.
 
Welllll....................

Things do break, and freak accidents happen. I know Evan personally, and I'm pretty sure if you sent him the cue and the video he would fix it if possible at a reasonable cost. Nobody does anything for free, and I don't think he would just give you a new replacement. He has always been very fair with me, Scott
 
subdude1974 said:
I would do 1 of 2 things.
1.Send it to Evan and have him totally replace the forearm. If it is repaired, no telling how it would hit. And he would probably inspect the cue and see what he could see in the cue. He might even give your friend a discount on the repair charge if he deems the cue was not treated like a baseball bat.

2.Use it as a fish whacker. It will cost you probably 200-300 to fix it. And if you ever resell it I bet you couldnt get more than 300 for it anyway. Unless you dont tell anyone what has been done.

I say toss it and invest in another cue. JMHO.
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Easy to say when you live in a country where you can make 800$ (the cost of this cue) in 1 week maybe less.

The minimum wage per month here is 200$. My friend is a student and he saved couple of months for this cue. I hope you understand his frustration.

I have a Schon myself for 3 years now (it's a STL model) and i don't take good care of it, i drop it and throw it sometimes, and it's nothing wrong with it so far. I do take responsability for anything that might happen to my cue, but i can undrstand how my friend feels when after 5-6 months of owning a cue something like this happends.
 
I own a Ltd 1033 and I find it hard to believe that it broke like that, after being kept in mint condition and a freak accident snapped its forearm. I've dropped mine at least a half a dozen times, ranging from carpet to tile.

Was the cue kept in a trunk, did it get really cold. Had it been dropped a bunch of times before this happened to it? I can not see Schon being responsible for this, sorry. Good luck on the repairs.
 
Bugz said:
I own a Ltd 1033 and I find it hard to believe that it broke like that, after being kept in mint condition and a freak accident snapped its forearm. I've dropped mine at least a half a dozen times, ranging from carpet to tile.

Was the cue kept in a trunk, did it get really cold. Had it been dropped a bunch of times before this happened to it? I can not see Schon being responsible for this, sorry. Good luck on the repairs.
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The guys doesn't own a car. He has a decent cue case. The cue was dropped before i'm sure but i wasn't there each time he dropped it :). I am not implying it wasn't his fault, dropping your cue it is your fault. But the way the cue is broken looks wierd to me that's all.
I am trying my best to find a good rapair for it, Evan at schon cue didn't respond to my emails after i send him the pictures. I don't know what to do.
 
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