Brunswick Centennial Ball Problem

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rjtcobra

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Hi All, check out this pic of my new 5 ball from a brunswick centennial set. It appears to be slightly defective. with the edge of the number plate bleeding through at the top, and there is a slight bump there. My question is this: Should I ask for a new one, or do you think that when they make sets, they are actually "Matched" in some way?

Also, should I go through the dealer or call Brunswick Direct?

I was surprised by this as I have heard great feedback on these balls being just as good, if not better than the Aramith pro sets (knowing they are made by the same company, Saluc). I do like the look of the centennials better.

Thanks,
Ryan
 

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if its a new set then send the get in touch with them and send the whole set back....and have them send you another set
 
I would try to if you could get it replaced. I found one of the balls in my Aramath Premium set has a small mistake (cresent shape out of one of the lines) but didnt realize it until I had them 4 months and was cleaning them one day.
 
yeah, its the perfectionist in me that is bothersome. I got the balls in the centennial play package when I bought my AShbee table. I just happened to notice it yesterday when I was racking. I am going to call my dealer first, then try brunswick if I need to...

Ryan
 
The home edition balls, such as what comes with "play packages"..... are second quality balls to the commercial quality sets. Flaws like these are not uncommon in these sets.
Chuck
 
RiverCity said:
The home edition balls, such as what comes with "play packages"..... are second quality balls to the commercial quality sets. Flaws like these are not uncommon in these sets.
Chuck
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Greg at Billiard Warehouse told me that there are 2 types of Cents. A home quality and commerical quality. He said that he has the cheapest prices for the Cents (he only sells the commerical) and if you find any being sold cheaper they are not the commerical set.

A lot of times there are latent flaws. I have a set of Aramith Pros. Borrrowed a scale and just for curiosity weighed all of the billiard balls that I have. Found that the 11 ball in my Pros weighs 1 gram (.1 oz ) less than the rest of the set. Also found that all of the CBs were lighter than those balls except for the measle that weighted the same. I have had these balls for 2 years before I weighed them.

I also have a old set of Cents and the rings and numbers popped. They came with my table in 1975. That is why I bought a set of Pros.
 
You know, the more we (the playing public) know about Aramith balls, (which also makes Brunswick balls), the more suspect we should be of the quality. This thread, as well as the thread on the Aramith Magnetic balls being coated with a #'d ball inside, seems to be proof that SOMETHING is going on at Aramith (Saluc)??? Has anyone gotten through to Aramith for answers?



TheBook said:
Greg at Billiard Warehouse told me that there are 2 types of Cents. A home quality and commerical quality. He said that he has the cheapest prices for the Cents (he only sells the commerical) and if you find any being sold cheaper they are not the commerical set.

A lot of times there are latent flaws. I have a set of Aramith Pros. Borrrowed a scale and just for curiosity weighed all of the billiard balls that I have. Found that the 11 ball in my Pros weighs 1 gram (.1 oz ) less than the rest of the set. Also found that all of the CBs were lighter than those balls except for the measle that weighted the same. I have had these balls for 2 years before I weighed them.

I also have a old set of Cents and the rings and numbers popped. They came with my table in 1975. That is why I bought a set of Pros.
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nancewayne said:
You know, the more we (the playing public) know about Aramith balls, (which also makes Brunswick balls), the more suspect we should be of the quality. This thread, as well as the thread on the Aramith Magnetic balls being coated with a #'d ball inside, seems to be proof that SOMETHING is going on at Aramith (Saluc)??? Has anyone gotten through to Aramith for answers?
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There is nothing wrong with them as far as playability. They are just not the BEST that are made. Its a cost/price issue. The balls are seconds, not trash. "Seconds" can mean a lot of things. If QC is low.... the seconds will be crap. If QC is extremely high, as they are at Saluc...... the seconds are still better than some other companies firsts.
Chuck
 
Brunswick Centennials

Regarding Brunswick Centennials, Brunswick offers a "Standard" set of balls and a "Premium" set of balls. The Standard sets lists for $40 less than the Premium sets and have occasional small dots or blemishes that do not affect play . Standards are not always available because they need to be built up in inventory before becoming available as sets for sale. All sets carry the same Brunswick warranty.
 
One post says the balls in question are " 2nd's", another says that the less expensive balls from Aramith are a lesser quality and therefore less expensive (apparently not 2nd's). There is nothing in Aramith's description of ANY of their ball sets that say the balls are "blems" or "2nd's", therefore they are representing these sets as 1st quality (some with tolerances not quite as good as their best sets). The buying public looks at the advertising "specs" of their ball sets and compares prices of the different models, ie., Standard, Premier, Premium, Super Pro or Tournament, then decides which PRICE they can afford and perhaps compromise their choice and buy a less expensive set...they ARE NOT thinking they are buying "2nd's or "Blems", just 1st quality balls with slightly less tolerances for roundness and weight and a different phenolic resin mix that makes them wear out quicker.

I still believe that Aramith is misrepresenting to the public that their ball sets are 1st quality...THAT AREN'T !!!
 
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Why are there 2 different quality ball sets from (Aramith) Brunswick of the same brand/type having the same packaging and same description on the box, but different inside? Could anyone show me a "commercial" labeled box of balls? I need to know how to tell the difference between the two sets!



TheBook said:
Greg at Billiard Warehouse told me that there are 2 types of Cents. A home quality and commerical quality. He said that he has the cheapest prices for the Cents (he only sells the commerical) and if you find any being sold cheaper they are not the commerical set.
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TheBook said:
Greg at Billiard Warehouse told me that there are 2 types of Cents. A home quality and commerical quality. He said that he has the cheapest prices for the Cents (he only sells the commerical) and if you find any being sold cheaper they are not the commerical set.

A lot of times there are latent flaws. I have a set of Aramith Pros. Borrrowed a scale and just for curiosity weighed all of the billiard balls that I have. Found that the 11 ball in my Pros weighs 1 gram (.1 oz ) less than the rest of the set. Also found that all of the CBs were lighter than those balls except for the measle that weighted the same. I have had these balls for 2 years before I weighed them.

I also have a old set of Cents and the rings and numbers popped. They came with my table in 1975. That is why I bought a set of Pros.
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I thought there were two different quality Brunswick balls, but both are not centennial. My understanding is that the Centennial balls (both regular or tv edition) are thier top of line, regardless of whether you buy them in the Centennial players package or on their own. The lesser set is called heritage, which also look different.
 
rjtcobra said:
I thought there were two different quality Brunswick balls, but both are not centennial. My understanding is that the Centennial balls (both regular or tv edition) are thier top of line, regardless of whether you buy them in the Centennial players package or on their own. The lesser set is called heritage, which also look different.
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He said the commerical quality had a harder surface for more severe use???

I don't know and didn't bother doing any other research. His price was good and ended up buying a set from him. I didn't want to keep searching to just to save a buck.
 
TheBook said:
Greg at Billiard Warehouse told me that there are 2 types of Cents. A home quality and commerical quality. He said that he has the cheapest prices for the Cents (he only sells the commerical) and if you find any being sold cheaper they are not the commerical set.

A lot of times there are latent flaws. I have a set of Aramith Pros. Borrrowed a scale and just for curiosity weighed all of the billiard balls that I have. Found that the 11 ball in my Pros weighs 1 gram (.1 oz ) less than the rest of the set. Also found that all of the CBs were lighter than those balls except for the measle that weighted the same. I have had these balls for 2 years before I weighed them.

I also have a old set of Cents and the rings and numbers popped. They came with my table in 1975. That is why I bought a set of Pros.
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Wow, that is very interesting, I had no idea. Since reading this I checked out my centennials that came with the centennial playing package and also noticed that the 10 ball is about three shades whiter than the others! I also received my 5 ball replacement and it is about a 1/32 smaller than the others!!! I cna tell because it floats around in the rack vs. the other balls and the old 5 ball (which I still have). I am getting really annoyed with all this inconsistency, and at this point, I am going to see if my dealer will take the set back and get me another. I'll use the forum sellers to buy a set of Aramith super pro's, though.

Ryan
 
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