Brunswick Signature Cue.

poolrod

poolrod

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Any info would be great. Thank you all. Rod.

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I have one of these I purchased new in '68 so I'm certain about it's age. It's definitely Schmelke built. No butt cap on mine. Straight taper shaft. Different rubber bumper than yours. Mine has the original leather wrap, which fits poorly in the too-deep grove. It's just over .800 at the joint, so it's kind of thin for a conversion but it can be done: I plan to make a Rambo tribute conversion out of mine since many Rambos were thin at the joint.
I've seen them for sale for about $125 up.
 
poolrod said:
Any info would be great. Thank you all. Rod.

Hello Rod, from late 1968 until Middle 1969 these cues were contracted out to Schmelke by Brunswick. Late 1969 in to the 1970's they were made some where in Japan, the cues that were made in Japan to include the Hoppe Titlist cues will have a serial number stamped in the wood below the joint collar and above the shaft collar that should match.

To my knowledge this serial number was placed on the cues so that if the shaft and butt some how got separated the matching parts could be identified. The production process used to make these cues had poor tolerances so a different shaft would not fit another butt well at the joint.

It is also not uncommon to see the Joint on the pictured cue used in many cues during the early 70's, it appears that Schmelke allow who ever was making these cues in Japan to use their design.

Oh and by the way, I suspect that the ferrule has been changed on that cue, the others ones I have seen that were made Schmelke had a Black ring made of some type of material the separated the ferrule from the shoulder of the shaft.

Take care Rod
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Are you guys positive Schmelke made those cues? I asked someone at Schmelke about Brunswick using that joint and they said they did not make them for Brunswick, but that Brunswick went overseas and had them made with a similar joint to theirs. It may be that they were misinformed, but this came from someone at Schmelke saying that they did not build the Brunswick cues with that joint.
 
The cue is very similar to the Brunswick Personal, but a little plainer with out fancy rings and the fancy leather wrap. It's possible that Adam Japan made it, but you don't see many of these around any more.
 
cueman said:
Are you guys positive Schmelke made those cues? I asked someone at Schmelke about Brunswick using that joint and they said they did not make them for Brunswick, but that Brunswick went overseas and had them made with a similar joint to theirs. It may be that they were misinformed, but this came from someone at Schmelke saying that they did not build the Brunswick cues with that joint.
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i heard the same thing chris
 
cueman said:
Are you guys positive Schmelke made those cues? I asked someone at Schmelke about Brunswick using that joint and they said they did not make them for Brunswick, but that Brunswick went overseas and had them made with a similar joint to theirs. It may be that they were misinformed, but this came from someone at Schmelke saying that they did not build the Brunswick cues with that joint.
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To my understanding they were made by Schmelke for less than a year, and then production was moved to Japan like I said above. Again to my knowledge all the personal cues and the Hoppe Pro's that were made in Japan had Serial Numbers stamped in the above the joint and below the joint collar and this is how you can identify where they were made.

Like many subjects pertaining to pool cues made during the 1970's and earlier much written information has been lost so please believe what you choose to, and I will believe the information I have received, no loss / no foul.

JIMO
 
manwon said:
To my understanding they were made by Schmelke for less than a year, and then production was moved to Japan like I said above. Again to my knowledge all the personal cues and the Hoppe Pro's that were made in Japan had Serial Numbers stamped in the above the joint and below the joint collar and this is how you can identify where they were made.

Like many subjects pertaining to pool cues made during the 1970's and earlier much written information has been lost so please believe what you choose to, and I will believe the information I have received, no loss / no foul.

JIMO
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No serial numbers, but they have a screw inside the joints, if that helps.
 
This is all very interesting. The plot thickens!
In 1968 a friend's father worked for a company in lower New York state, Rockland County I think, called BSR, who made, among other things, stereo components. As I remember (42 years ago...WOW!), BSR had either just bought Brunswick, or had recently formed some other business relationship with them. My friend's dad was able to get this cue, and I ended up with it at that time in payment of a debt. I've had it from then on.
My cue has no serial numbers, no butt cap and no screws holding on the joint components, which it could have used...they both came loose.
I made my a-little-too-positive statement about it's Schmelke origin based on the opinion of others previously published here.
It doesn't really mater I suppose, but I'm really curious who made the thing, and where. Thanks to all the info. Robin Snyder
 
id bet

some of the builders on here could update that and make it into a real table raper.
i wish schmelkie still made those titalist blanks.
 
hitandapick said:
some of the builders on here could update that and make it into a real table raper.
I'm sure there are. I like to think I'm one of them. That's my plan.
I'll bet if Schmelke made these again...high quality and for a good price they would sell and sell and sell and....
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they have some full splice vennerd butts on there page, but none with even close to titlist points. id say the best after market titlist esk splices iv seen come from travis at blackcreek. that dude is chanalling herman rambow from beond the grave
 
hitandapick said:
they have some full splice vennerd butts on there page, but none with even close to titlist points. id say the best after market titlist esk splices iv seen come from travis at blackcreek. that dude is chanalling herman rambow from beond the grave
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Travis makes great looking cues. They play sweet too.
 
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