Actually, Matlock beat buddy three separate times one time only on the bar table and in two sets on two different occasions. when they played the last two times they were playing one set on the bar table and one on the big table, and david beat him all three times. However, buddy is the overall better 9 foot player, his record speaks for itself.gulfportdoc said:Not according to Rags To Rifleman, Then What?. Matlock did beat Buddy in an 18 hour barbox session, using the big cueball. Buddy then challenged him to a session using the regular cueball, but Matlock refused. Buddy did beat Matlock 7-1 in a barbox tournament which he won in Kansas City in 1985. The event was written about in "Pool and Billiard Magazine" by Mike Ives.
Matlock was generally regarded as the top barbox player. As far as the big track, I don't believe Matlock wanted any part of Buddy when he was beating everyone during the 1980's and early 90's.
Doc
SpiderWebComm said:I remember about 6-7 years ago I first saw him at the U.S. Open 9-ball Championship. When I first laid eyes on him, I was completely star-struck. Buddy was the very first pro I watched on TV, and his long stroke with the trademark "pause" was the prettiest thing in the world.
I stared at him for nearly 5 minutes before I got the nerve to walk up and say hi.
So I go up and say, "Hey Buddy I'm a HUGE fan! Pleased to meet ya! I heard you used to play REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL good!" (In my mind, what I wanted to say was "I heard you were the best in the world for a long time" and it came out wrong)
Buddy gave me cross look and walked away.
It took me a few minutes to realize I made a TOTAL ass out of myself. After all, I just watched Buddy torch-in Efren either 11-5 or 11-6 and here I am saying "I heard you used to play real good."
Ah well, I guess we all get stage fright and makes asses of ourselves.
JB Cases said:I played Buddy Hall some one pocket for the princely sum of $10 a game one year in Vegas. Before we started he asked me what kind of spot I wanted. I said Buddy we are just playing for $10 a game I don't want a spot. He said, "that's not fair what do you want?" I said well Cliff gives me 10:5 how about we do that? and he said "We certainly don't have to do that". He gave me 10:7 and of course robbed me. The thing is though that I actually played decent against him and put him in some good traps which he smooth stroked out of.
gulfportdoc said:Not according to Rags To Rifleman, Then What?. Matlock did beat Buddy in an 18 hour barbox session, using the big cueball. Buddy then challenged him to a session using the regular cueball, but Matlock refused. Buddy did beat Matlock 7-1 in a barbox tournament which he won in Kansas City in 1985. The event was written about in "Pool and Billiard Magazine" by Mike Ives.
Matlock was generally regarded as the top barbox player. As far as the big track, I don't believe Matlock wanted any part of Buddy when he was beating everyone during the 1980's and early 90's.
Doc
Bigdogbret said:If you can find a copy of "Rags to Rifleman" it is full of Buddy Hall stories. Otherwise, sit down with Buddy at a tournament and just listen. He has hours and hours of great stories. Thanks Buddy!!!
JB Cases said:I agree. I have read that book many many times. I asked Buddy and Sherry about reprinting it and they don't seem to know where the original is or who owns the rights to it. I guess it would be Woody Woodworth, the author. No disrespect to Woody but the book needs to be edited quite a bit and after editing I think it would be a much better book.
For those that don't know it's like 300 pages of very small print. Lots of words in that book.
If there was a way to do a revised version of it then I think it could be a mainstream book as a slice of Americana.
Pushout said:I seem to remember reading somewhere that Bebob {sp?} Publishing holds the rights to it. The print is not only small, the type varies from signature to signature. Was definitely not a quality printing job.
Though I would like to see it, I seriously doubt it would be of interest to a mainstream publisher. I really don't see a market outside the pool playing community and even league players I have mentioned him to have never heard of him. I remember stopping in mid-sentence talking to a local room owner who had no idea who he was. I couldn't believe it.
JB, unless he's sold them very recently, the rights are owned by Bob Henning of Bebob Publishing, out of Livonia, Michigan. About 1-1/2 years ago I asked Bob why he wouldn't republish it, since I believe it would sell big. He said that he didn't think he'd be able to recoup the money it would take him to edit it and republish it. He guessed it would take 5000 copies sold to break even. Hopefully he'll reconsider one of these days!JB Cases said:I agree. I have read that book many many times. I asked Buddy and Sherry about reprinting it and they don't seem to know where the original is or who owns the rights to it. I guess it would be Woody Woodworth, the author. No disrespect to Woody but the book needs to be edited quite a bit and after editing I think it would be a much better book.
shortstroke said:if you had the good fortune to see buddy play back in the early 70's it was simply amazing what he could do. on a 9 footer & buddy breaking no spot was enough. an old carney from shreveport named topsy was watching him play and commented "he never gets out of line and he never gets on the rail". buddy made it look too easy.