Buddy Hall....

Blackjack said:
I hope Buddy takes better care of himself. I'd love to see him get back into shape because I still believe that he can win against the big boys.

FWIW, Steve did try to shed some pounds prior to the stroke, but the sad fact was the he just didn't have the time to dedicate to an exercise program - nor was he impressed by diets. I believe a large part of his stroke was due to stress (from business) combined with not taking care of himself properly.

I'm not one to talk, I'm putting on the pounds too - but I was talking to Jay on the phone a few weeks ago, and I would love to get back down to about 175 - possibly even 170 - and I could do that by just getting up off of my ass and getting back in the gym or on the bike...

I'm doing a fundraiser in November at Capones where I will try to see how many balls I can pocket in a 24 hour period - I'm gunning for 9,000 -10,000 - (charity event for a young child with cancer) but I need to get in shape to do that and the clock is ticking towards November 3rd ... the closer it gets, the louder I hear the ticking... tick -tock - tick - tock

David,

Start out by walking 2-3 miles each day. It's amazing how much better you will feel in a couple of weeks. A good pace is four miles an hour, one mile every 15 minutes. Personally I do 16 minute miles, but I have short legs. They barely reach the ground. :)

A little light weight work is great too. My bar only has 45 pounds on it, so I can do mulitple lifts.
 
jay helfert said:
David,

Start out by walking 2-3 miles each day. It's amazing how much better you will feel in a couple of weeks. A good pace is four miles an hour, one mile every 15 minutes. Personally I do 16 minute miles, but I have short legs. They barely reach the ground. :)

A little light weight work is great too. My bar only has 45 pounds on it, so I can do mulitple lifts.

tapperz - .5 hrs a day will do wonders to any body's system and who cruising this network or not doesn't have that time. this should be a religion much more important than sunday church.
 
Walking is great. I have my dog and we walk 30 mintues to an hour each day. On top of that I don't own a car here so I walk much more to go where I want to go.

I have shed 20 lbs in the past year from walking and cutting out sugary drinks. I still have a Coke once in a while but I drink water or tea 90% of the time. I feel better now than I have in years. And if I would excercise a little more then I could tak off another 15 and truly feel great.

Carrying extra weight sucks. I feel terrible for people who are hugely overweight as I know how bad I feel being 30-40lbs overweight and can only imagine how it is to carry 100 or more.
 
If you all remember, I started a fittness competion on here about 6 mos ago. I had it all set up, 10 guys commitied and two sponsors offered up cues and whatnot as prizes (thanks again JB and Ratcues).

A few weeks into it everybody fell out.... nobody stuck with it, at least stuck to the rules.. so I ended to sontest but kept up woth it personaly.

Proud to say that today I carry a 10-12 % BF at 183lbs.
I started at 222.5 wiht a 42 inch gut (about 39 at the waist) and a BF% of 30% (clinicaly obesse).

I have a 5k time of around 20 mins and can knock out a mile in under 6 (5:59 counts as under!!)...I can throw my body +20 % for reps on the bench and my speed is through the roof. Oh and that 6 pack is finally there albeit only after I cut my water intake and "diet down" for it.. usally takes a day or so.

About 4 months ago I started playing and coaching for a German federal liga American Football team. Something would have never have happened if I was in the same shape as before.

Life is alot more fun now. Keeping up with the kids is a lot eaiser and they of course enjoy our time more.... as does wifey ;)


I dont want to come off as bragging (but I am). I said all of that to say this...
Pool players as a whole arent not Healthy... Buddy is a prime example...It isnt that hard to make a monster difference.. oyu just have to be dedicated and have a control over yourself. People are fat b/c they dont want to be thin... granted body types play into it but they are not an excuse!!

It really doesnt take alot of time to make the change.. give me 30 mins a day and I can help you acheive similar results. I have always been an athelte so getting back to it was a little easier for me, but nonetheless.. if you want it you can get it...

I am turning 30 in a few months and am in the greastest shape of my life.. if anybody wants help of advice shoot me over a pm and I will be more than happy to help.

Sorry to gush over like this, but it is something that I feel very strongly about and something I am more than willing to share!

Shane
 
Smorgass Bored said:
This is a stupid little story, but I've never let THAT stop me from posting before, so why start now.
I've seen ALOT of Buddy in my lifetime, both in New Orleans and here in Tampa. Planet 9-Ball was his (our) home room for 7-8 years.

Anyway, Buddy was in P-9-Ball practicing nineball alone. I never ask Buddy if I can practice with him, because I play so badly that I could only bring his game DOWN and not be any competition for him. When you aren't a threat to EVER run a rack or win a game, people don't feel any pressure and play (or take a flier) at everything. :)

So, Buddy has been practicing alone for quite awhile I notice that it's getting harder and harder for him to go around the table and gather the balls and reach under the table for the rack and so on. I go over and tell Buddy that I'll practice with him for a little while and spot him 'THE BREAKS'. He smiles and goes for it.

We ended up playing 10 games and he pulls up with the score 10-0 to Buddy. I shook his hand, thanked him for the games and told him, "I just couldn't outrun THAT SPOT."

He almost died......laughing.
Doug
( Buddy and I are the same weight, same build and same age...... no wonder so many people think that he's ME ) :)





That's a funny line, you couldn't out run the spot. I used to talk to Steve M. until I was blue in the face and it never did any good. I've only talked to Buddy once or twice about this, but no more. I realize now that's it's up to them to make the decision to do something about their weight, and no amount of talking will change their minds.

Buddy is one of the best friends I have ever made in Pool. I don't know if he knows this, but we have got along great for forty years now, since we were both kids in J.C. We always have a few laughs when we are together, and we can talk about anything. I'd love to tell the story here that he told me about the crank on a John Deere tractor but it is double X rated.

Buddy has been consistently one of the best players for over 35 years now, longer than anyone else. Only Rempe and Varner have had nearly as long and successful careers. Hopkins is a little younger. NO ONE has won more tournaments in the last 35 years than Buddy. It's not even close. He would criss cross the country for years playing tournaments nearly every weekend. Big tables, bar tables, it was all the same to him. He won zillions of bar table tourneys in the South with strong 64 player fields. First prize might have only been a grand, but he earned it the hard way.

No one knows the highways of this great nation better than Buddy. He knows the roads better than most truckers. He refused to fly until the last few years. God, it doesn't seem like the big Dayton tourneys were over 30 years ago. Buddy won one after another in the early to mid 70's. And let me tell you the quality of the fields back then were every bit as good as today, if not better. He had to deal with Mataya, Mizerak, McCready, Reid, Marino, Lisciotti, Varner, Dan Louie, Hopkins, Mathews, Cornbread, Jersey Red, Shorty, Kelly, Richie, Ronnie, Hubbard, Rempe, David Howard, Medina and later on Sigel.

I'm surely forgeting someone who belongs on that list, and there were many more decent players who weren't easy either. That's why I brag about finishing 13-16th in a couple of 64 man fields back then. And Buddy beat 'em all many times, more than any one else of his era. And more than that, he could beat them gambling too. Not one of the above great players wanted to gamble with Buddy even at 9-Ball. I can only think of one player from the above list who could have matched Buddy ball for ball at 9-Ball in his prime and that's Richie, and maybe the Ed Kelly of the 60's. Many of the others tried and failed. Only Cornbread could have out gambled him.

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but Efren in his prime could not beat Buddy Hall in his prime at 9-Ball. Buddy broke better and ran out more racks. Only Earl strung racks better than Buddy in tournaments. And by the way, Buddy played jam up One Pocket and Banks as well. Only a handful of guys had a chance against him playing Banks. He played with the best players of his era like Tony Fargo and Truman. At One Pocket it was the same story, only a handful of players would mess with Buddy, and he was the favorite along with Efren at most One Pocket tourneys in the early to late 90's.

Was he the best ever? I don't know. Was he one of the best? DEFINITELY!
 
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I really haven't been posting on here thru the summer cause it seems like too much garbage and shenanigans more often than not.

This thread really bothers me knowing Buddy and all and I really think this was in very bad judgement. Things like this are kind of...personal...and any concern should probably be done...privately.

Why don't we all start publicly stating our concern about the mentally ill players we know?

How about the one's with drinking problems?

Oh, lets not forget our drug addicted friends either.

There's alot of people with alot of problems out there that don't really need to be aired publicly. If they come on looking for advice it's one thing but to just start it for the sake of it it just doesn't sit right.
 
People holding conversations about public figures (esp. sport heros) is nothing new and nothing to hide.

We have talked about the druggies.
We have talked about the Alkies.
We have talked about the mental cases.

It isnt like we are talking about some random civilian... these peopel are inthe public light, albeit a very dim light on the big scale.. still nobody has bashed anyone or talked down about somebody (at least in this thread)

If it aint your cup of tea the dont post in the thread but dont down talk those that do.
 
stevelomako said:
I really haven't been posting on here thru the summer cause it seems like too much garbage and shenanigans more often than not.

This thread really bothers me knowing Buddy and all and I really think this was in very bad judgement. Things like this are kind of...personal...and any concern should probably be done...privately.

Why don't we all start publicly stating our concern about the mentally ill players we know?

How about the one's with drinking problems?

Oh, lets not forget our drug addicted friends either.

There's alot of people with alot of problems out there that don't really need to be aired publicly. If they come on looking for advice it's one thing but to just start it for the sake of it it just doesn't sit right.

With all forms of addicton the problem won't go away if kept quiet. The denial the addict lives in needs to be broken and that takes a crisis. The crisis can be getting arrested or divorced or losing a job or, in the case of a public figure, maybe the crisis can be sincere concern expressed by people that are obviously not bashing but sincerely want to help.

I admit it is embarrasing when your personal problem is talked about but when the situation is becoming rather extreme, such as Earl's behavior, or Buddy's weight then those that care need to openly confront the situation and tell the person with the problem that their problem is hurting their friends and family. Such openness, while not welcome per se, will add to the negative consequences of the addiction/problem and, hopefully, help to create the needed crisis in the mind of the user.

I think this thread was opened with the mindset of being helpful and with the knowledge that a friendship might be endangered but that the openness was the right thing to do in order to be helpful. Sometimes a friend has to step-up and do the right thing even though it hurts and may have consequences.

It's clear Steve that you care for Buddy and I think that everybody that has posted here does. He's a great guy and one of the greatest pool players the world has EVER known and we don't want to lose him... but his eating is endangering his life.
 
stevelomako said:
I really haven't been posting on here thru the summer cause it seems like too much garbage and shenanigans more often than not.

This thread really bothers me knowing Buddy and all and I really think this was in very bad judgement. Things like this are kind of...personal...and any concern should probably be done...privately.

Why don't we all start publicly stating our concern about the mentally ill players we know?

How about the one's with drinking problems?

Oh, lets not forget our drug addicted friends either.

There's alot of people with alot of problems out there that don't really need to be aired publicly. If they come on looking for advice it's one thing but to just start it for the sake of it it just doesn't sit right.

Steve

I respect your opinion. However, I would love to see Buddy to look like this... (Plaid... its always a bad fashion mistake)

Hall.jpg




In our game, we have lost the Miz, Jay Swanson, and many others. Buddy is and always will be one of my heroes - and I hope that he gets back into shape so that we can have him around a little while longer. I really believe that Buddy still has the game - he just needs the energy back. We're not crucifying him here, a lot of us love him dearly and we know that the long term effects of obesity can be fatal.
 
I saw Buddy last weekend at a tournament and when I went up to him, you would of thought we were old friends for life.

Buddy has that way about him on everyone he meets. He is always very cordial and friendly to all people. Sad to say though, he looked very labored as he walked around the tournament table and when racking the balls.

Still didn't bother him too much as he beat Jesse Bowman 9-1. He still has game.

I mentioned to Buddy that I was looking at some of his pictures of his "younger" years on Bill Porters web site. I told him in the picture he was skinny as a rail and had a huge bushy head of hair.

He said, quote, "yeah, I was young and thin and the girls loved me".

But on a serious note, I mentioned the same thing to my wife, that I thought he was getting big and he reminded me of Steve M. Hope he has the desire to take better care of himself.
 
William Conrad As CANNON

Blackjack said:
Steve

I respect your opinion. However, I would love to see Buddy to look like this...

Hall.jpg



There are many younger (and some older) players that think that Buddy "The Rifleman" Hall refers to how straight Buddy can shoot, but Buddy actually got that nickname because of his resemblance to Chuck Conners in the old TV series "The Rifleman".
http://www.tvparty.com/rifle.html

Doug
( today, Buddy more resembles a Cannon than a Rifleman: http://www.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/10...h=pgallery&path_key=Conrad, William (I)&seq=6 ) :)








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