Burning Man
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ISO a pool table at Burning Man post is the last thing I expect to see from AZB.
Attending Burning Man can be a carthartic experience for some, and catonic for others. One acquaintance of mine, bored during the wait to drive home from BM 2007 cut off all her hair down to her scalp.
Good Luck and enjoy your trip.
P.S.
if you feel you need to liberate yourself by giving away your pool case and pool cues, I'm here to help.
Attending Burning Man can be a carthartic experience for some, and catonic for others. One acquaintance of mine, bored during the wait to drive home from BM 2007 cut off all her hair down to her scalp.
Good Luck and enjoy your trip.
P.S.
if you feel you need to liberate yourself by giving away your pool case and pool cues, I'm here to help.
Now I do not know much about Burning Man but I was invited so I am going. it is supposed to be a different way of life or mindset. I am trying to make this more of an event than 7 or 8 days in the desert. I did have a side kick but reality got in the way and they backed out so now I can go visit friends and family across the nation.
I am taking a long drive cross country for this event. I have not selected the exact route yet. I will probably stop to hit balls a time or two. Anybody have any suggestions on must stop pool halls or whatever let me know.
Curr route is Indy leave Thurs AM go through Denver and arrive Reno by Sat PM. This could be 2 days but the extra day should give me time to do a thing or two on the way.
Sun Reno prep for Burning Man primarily groceries.
Mon - Mon Burning Man probably not going to be offering out any cues or cases might have some used chalk I could give out to any who needs some drilled out cubes. (elvi does not like drilled out chalk) I guess I should share something good but that is what i have to share in the way of pool equipment.
From BM probably head out to Vacaville CA then down to SF check out a person or two including hopefully Bob J himself, then down through Death Valley to Vegas maybe try to look in on Fatboy.
From Vegas to Pheonix hopefully check out Grand Canyon and Hoover Dam and some Pheonix rooms.
then drive on to Lubbock TX, my Dad has a club called Jakes, coldest beer in Lubbock so I will be there a day or two.
Then on home maybe the long way Dallas, Shreveport, Memphis, Nashville, Bowling Green and Russell Springs, KY back to Indy.
This route is subject to change. I will be taking an old laptop, digital camera and video equipment, George case with a Scruggs bar stick and OB2 shaft (I like OB2) and Mike G breeak stick. I will try to hit a local tourney or two along the way.
Post up if I should stop anywhere along the way. I want to hits some pool balls in most states I drive through. I will be taking a GPS.
Yet again if there is a table on the playa I want to hit some balls. If i like BM and I find no table this year I might have to take a table in the future at least a Valley Bar Box.
I am taking a long drive cross country for this event. I have not selected the exact route yet. I will probably stop to hit balls a time or two. Anybody have any suggestions on must stop pool halls or whatever let me know.
Curr route is Indy leave Thurs AM go through Denver and arrive Reno by Sat PM. This could be 2 days but the extra day should give me time to do a thing or two on the way.
Sun Reno prep for Burning Man primarily groceries.
Mon - Mon Burning Man probably not going to be offering out any cues or cases might have some used chalk I could give out to any who needs some drilled out cubes. (elvi does not like drilled out chalk) I guess I should share something good but that is what i have to share in the way of pool equipment.
From BM probably head out to Vacaville CA then down to SF check out a person or two including hopefully Bob J himself, then down through Death Valley to Vegas maybe try to look in on Fatboy.
From Vegas to Pheonix hopefully check out Grand Canyon and Hoover Dam and some Pheonix rooms.
then drive on to Lubbock TX, my Dad has a club called Jakes, coldest beer in Lubbock so I will be there a day or two.
Then on home maybe the long way Dallas, Shreveport, Memphis, Nashville, Bowling Green and Russell Springs, KY back to Indy.
This route is subject to change. I will be taking an old laptop, digital camera and video equipment, George case with a Scruggs bar stick and OB2 shaft (I like OB2) and Mike G breeak stick. I will try to hit a local tourney or two along the way.
Post up if I should stop anywhere along the way. I want to hits some pool balls in most states I drive through. I will be taking a GPS.
Yet again if there is a table on the playa I want to hit some balls. If i like BM and I find no table this year I might have to take a table in the future at least a Valley Bar Box.
elvicash,
I assume you're going with someone who is experienced. Burning Man has a reputation for alcohol, substances, and expression of open sexuality of all kinds. Its clothing optional event, meaning you'll be seeing nice hard bodies along with pruny wrinkly kind. You'll probably more of the latter. Bring flashlights, and extra batteries can always be used for barter.
I assume you're going with someone who is experienced. Burning Man has a reputation for alcohol, substances, and expression of open sexuality of all kinds. Its clothing optional event, meaning you'll be seeing nice hard bodies along with pruny wrinkly kind. You'll probably more of the latter. Bring flashlights, and extra batteries can always be used for barter.
I live avbout 80 miles from BM. Its been a few yrs. since i last attended BM. I attended many of the early ones, when they were somewhat affordable. last one i did attend was about 5 yrs ago when tickets were 100.00. Anyways its a very different experience for sure, not everyones cup of tea. I have some great memories some wonderful pictures, made many new friends. You will enjoy yourself i have no doubt, dont be a looker, join in. And take alot of Water. Have Fun Floyd (ccn7) Tibbetts
I just gotta ask.. "what in tha sam hell is Burning Man"? 
I just gotta ask.. "what in tha sam hell is Burning Man"?
Google it and you will find out more than you ever wanted to know-
08-29-2009, 09:24 AM
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Tom H and I are enroute to Burning Man.
I just played some tonight in Des Moines at the Big Dog. Nice room, I did not like the tunes much. The balls were mismatched, we played on a GC 9'
I had a great time, the bear was cold, the rate was not bad at all.
The results, I played bad early and could not overcome Tom's lead. He beat me 100 to 88. I did not feel comfortable initially. No run for me over 9 or 10, Tom ran a 19.
We played bank pool short rack and I won 3 out of 4, quit for the night.
Tommorow we might play some in Cheyenne WY. Thinking about trying out Mingles.
WBM - I would have loved to have come up and spent a little time with Mark but it just did not work out between finishing up a project, packing and then the big one. Geri got the flu so I was nursing on Wed and Thur, I left on Fri.
Back to the trip, after leaving Des Moines we drove to Lincoln, NE and played at Madsens late lunch time, a bowling alley with pool tables. Good Philly Steak and Cheese. We played on the far corner table form the counter, level table, decent matched balls pretty clean. 4 bucks and hr for the table not per player. They had a diamond 9' it was covered up. I offered a game to someone behind the counter (he was not working at the time) he passed the economy is not helping much for anyone. i had the edge here on some 9 ball.
We then drove to Cheyenne WY. We ate Texas Rd House, pretty good went to Mingles they had big tables but more of a gathering spot not a serious pool room music was a little industrial for me so we did not stay. We went over to Plush Cue Family Billiards and played on an old very clean GC 9' Excellent balls, pockets were angled to take balls easy. We played 8 ball Tom liked it, it was late and he got me no offcial score but he played well here. After we left Tom has decided that 8 ball is now his game. The room is owned by Little Joe V bro in law. according to Blackjack "You met Cheyenne Pete Trujillo? Cool! He was at one time the most fierce 9 ball player in that area (he had wars with Danny Medina)" Pete asked me if I know George Breedlove also from Indy as we all know, I mentioned I was familiar with George and Pete said George had come through and played him some, it sounded like George took that one down, I did not press for details. Pete is one nice guy stop in if you are passing through on I80. 4 bucks per hour per person, good equipment, felt like a real room, no music.
I drove till pretty late upon leaving.
Next day slept in and Tom drove us to EO's we check it out and asked for a restaraunt recommendation, that place was closed (Sunday) and quite a few others but we eventually got fed at a nice sports bar. We went to EO's and played 14.1 I played well got a good lead and then fell apart. Tom wins the pool. EO's is nice 2 12' snooker tables, GC and Diamond 9' tables. Pool Hall Junkies was filmed there, the owner was nice guy and they play 14.1 there. Time seemed high 6 bucks per hr for the good tables 4 buck for the banger tables, We did not know the rate diff the owner said I am going to cut you a break on time when we left, that was really nice. I think the 6 bucks should be posted if there is a price diff. Golf is cheap if a ring game. They almost need a rate menu. First time I ever played with IPT balls, Table was clean, good players chairs, Go To EO's they offered to call us some action, I passed. They said SVB took down some action there before he got his name out there 3 or so years back came in offering weight and got the job done.
We are now in Winnemucca NV or something like that, we might bangs some balls in a bar prior to hitting the desert later today. Wish me luck I will report back next week or so.
After Burning Man I will definitly be traveling through Vegas hitting the Phoenix Lubock, Dallas,Shrveport, Memphis, Nasheville. Any tips on where to play or tourneys let me know in this thread.
I will come out of the desert rejuvenated and ready to go.
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Tom H and I are enroute to Burning Man.
I just played some tonight in Des Moines at the Big Dog. Nice room, I did not like the tunes much. The balls were mismatched, we played on a GC 9'
I had a great time, the bear was cold, the rate was not bad at all.
The results, I played bad early and could not overcome Tom's lead. He beat me 100 to 88. I did not feel comfortable initially. No run for me over 9 or 10, Tom ran a 19.
We played bank pool short rack and I won 3 out of 4, quit for the night.
Tommorow we might play some in Cheyenne WY. Thinking about trying out Mingles.
WBM - I would have loved to have come up and spent a little time with Mark but it just did not work out between finishing up a project, packing and then the big one. Geri got the flu so I was nursing on Wed and Thur, I left on Fri.
Back to the trip, after leaving Des Moines we drove to Lincoln, NE and played at Madsens late lunch time, a bowling alley with pool tables. Good Philly Steak and Cheese. We played on the far corner table form the counter, level table, decent matched balls pretty clean. 4 bucks and hr for the table not per player. They had a diamond 9' it was covered up. I offered a game to someone behind the counter (he was not working at the time) he passed the economy is not helping much for anyone. i had the edge here on some 9 ball.
We then drove to Cheyenne WY. We ate Texas Rd House, pretty good went to Mingles they had big tables but more of a gathering spot not a serious pool room music was a little industrial for me so we did not stay. We went over to Plush Cue Family Billiards and played on an old very clean GC 9' Excellent balls, pockets were angled to take balls easy. We played 8 ball Tom liked it, it was late and he got me no offcial score but he played well here. After we left Tom has decided that 8 ball is now his game. The room is owned by Little Joe V bro in law. according to Blackjack "You met Cheyenne Pete Trujillo? Cool! He was at one time the most fierce 9 ball player in that area (he had wars with Danny Medina)" Pete asked me if I know George Breedlove also from Indy as we all know, I mentioned I was familiar with George and Pete said George had come through and played him some, it sounded like George took that one down, I did not press for details. Pete is one nice guy stop in if you are passing through on I80. 4 bucks per hour per person, good equipment, felt like a real room, no music.
I drove till pretty late upon leaving.
Next day slept in and Tom drove us to EO's we check it out and asked for a restaraunt recommendation, that place was closed (Sunday) and quite a few others but we eventually got fed at a nice sports bar. We went to EO's and played 14.1 I played well got a good lead and then fell apart. Tom wins the pool. EO's is nice 2 12' snooker tables, GC and Diamond 9' tables. Pool Hall Junkies was filmed there, the owner was nice guy and they play 14.1 there. Time seemed high 6 bucks per hr for the good tables 4 buck for the banger tables, We did not know the rate diff the owner said I am going to cut you a break on time when we left, that was really nice. I think the 6 bucks should be posted if there is a price diff. Golf is cheap if a ring game. They almost need a rate menu. First time I ever played with IPT balls, Table was clean, good players chairs, Go To EO's they offered to call us some action, I passed. They said SVB took down some action there before he got his name out there 3 or so years back came in offering weight and got the job done.
We are now in Winnemucca NV or something like that, we might bangs some balls in a bar prior to hitting the desert later today. Wish me luck I will report back next week or so.
After Burning Man I will definitly be traveling through Vegas hitting the Phoenix Lubock, Dallas,Shrveport, Memphis, Nasheville. Any tips on where to play or tourneys let me know in this thread.
I will come out of the desert rejuvenated and ready to go.
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Dana...Don't forget the sunblock! It can be very high UV rays out there on the flats. You probably know this, but Fatboy spends most of his time in L.A. now. The Cue Club is the place in Vegas...it's on Sahara Blvd. In Phoenix, there are several rooms, but I hear Sweet Tooth Billiards (which is new) is a nice place to play. Kolby's is the player room. I've only played on campus at TT, in Lubbock...no doubt your dad knows where to play. In Shreveport, you MUST visit Bill Schick's room (Bill Schick Billiards). Great room, with good equipment...and Bill is usually in his shop in the back. Take time to say hello, and he will likely show you around! Look for S'portplayer...if he's in town, he loves to play. If not, the manager (Mike, I think) loves to play, or can steer you some action. In Dallas, try to make it to the Billiard Den. It's on the north side of Dallas, and a nice place to play. Memphis has High Pockets, but I haven't been there in a long time. In Nashville, you have to go to Jim Blaylock's room, JOB Billiards. It's in Madison, about 10 miles north of Nashville. That should give you a few leads! :thumbup: Have fun in the sun!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Success Table Found At Burning Man
AZ pool is alive on the playa. I found a table, conditions were a little rougher than the Phillipines I believe. Everything banked long, dirty balls and sandy cloth. Make a bridge you make a dust cloud. 8 Ball slop counts, call pocket on the 8. Played a couple of different days. Met some nice people as normal for any pool room.
From BM we left late on Fri, stayed in Fallon, drove down to Vegas hit some balls at the Cue Club, and next day played at Pool sharks both were good. Saw Pots and Pans at Pool Sharks. Did not make it over to the Nugget too much to do, not enough time.
Headed out now to Phoenix, then Lubbock to Dallas, might go to Galveston, any info on that tourney would be appreciated especially pre paid players list so I can make a good decision.
Thanks for following the thread.
Here is the pict of the table.
AZ pool is alive on the playa. I found a table, conditions were a little rougher than the Phillipines I believe. Everything banked long, dirty balls and sandy cloth. Make a bridge you make a dust cloud. 8 Ball slop counts, call pocket on the 8. Played a couple of different days. Met some nice people as normal for any pool room.
From BM we left late on Fri, stayed in Fallon, drove down to Vegas hit some balls at the Cue Club, and next day played at Pool sharks both were good. Saw Pots and Pans at Pool Sharks. Did not make it over to the Nugget too much to do, not enough time.
Headed out now to Phoenix, then Lubbock to Dallas, might go to Galveston, any info on that tourney would be appreciated especially pre paid players list so I can make a good decision.
Thanks for following the thread.
Here is the pict of the table.
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If you can play on that table, you can play at the Cue Club. All you have to do there is be able to side step all the puke on the bathroom floor.
And no one cleaned it up, it stayed there al evening, wasn't impressed.
And no one cleaned it up, it stayed there al evening, wasn't impressed.
Tickets were 300.00. 360.00 at the gate.48,000 expected to attend. The road out of there handles 450 cars per hour. No thanks.
Just talked to a guy who came back a couple of days ago. He and his wife were there for five days. He said traffic getting in took hours and he left before they actually did the Burning Man ceremony because he said traffic would have been too heavy leaving. Over two hours North of Reno in the middle of nowhere.
But they absolutely loved it, the whole experience. He said "anything goes" up there, except drinking while driving. The guy who greeted them at the gate was butt naked. Parties on wheels, everyone hops aboard. I asked about drugs and he just laughed. Police? Some yes plus BLM people and some private security provided by event organizers. No trouble, everyone gets long. A completely and totally different environment then we are used to he said.
I'd like to go some day. Oh, very little media allowed in and video cameras were not cool. Cameras okay but you had to ask people's permission to take their photo. Why I asked? Because people did things up there that they wouldn't want other people (like family and friends) to know about. He was told there were 42,000 people and BLM will only allow 50,000 and then they shut the gates.
But they absolutely loved it, the whole experience. He said "anything goes" up there, except drinking while driving. The guy who greeted them at the gate was butt naked. Parties on wheels, everyone hops aboard. I asked about drugs and he just laughed. Police? Some yes plus BLM people and some private security provided by event organizers. No trouble, everyone gets long. A completely and totally different environment then we are used to he said.
I'd like to go some day. Oh, very little media allowed in and video cameras were not cool. Cameras okay but you had to ask people's permission to take their photo. Why I asked? Because people did things up there that they wouldn't want other people (like family and friends) to know about. He was told there were 42,000 people and BLM will only allow 50,000 and then they shut the gates.
I got there on Mon 6 PM, I thought I was going to drive right in and set up the tent for the night. I was wrong 3 hours from edge of desert to campsight. Over an hour at will call during a dust storm 50 ft visible or less for most of the time. Set up a tent in the dark in a dust storm, van filled with dust while unloading. Also it was hot, dirty and very uncomfortable.
First night after setting up tent went out to Playa the center of campl filled with over a 100 large scale art emplacements, lots and lots of art cars and thousands people many in a wide range of costomes. Think Mad Max on steriods. Booming music, glowing lights neon laser etc, vehicles with flame throwers. Nudity both topless and complete alongside people wearing tiger suits, body paint, furry boots and stilts. Little crazy to say the least. Long late night interesting in many ways.
We woke up next AM covered in dust, very rough conditions. First night we saw a lot that would be hard to explain much more than I could ever describe. Clothing optional is an understatement. Freedom is the big thing on the Playa people want to express themselves in there way.
As a group they are not open to the concept of GOD which offended me as I thought they were pretty close minded for all of their claimed open mindedness.
I was OK with the entire thing as an experience, most everybody I met was extremely kind and respectful of me and others. Sharing was evident, people wanted to be nice and be able to do their own thing.
Tons and tons of cool things. Lots to see, some things were not open to all including much of the lesbian community they definitly had alot of closed events. Some good music, alot of not so good music (techno I do not like techo).
Pictures I took alot of pictures, ask first most will pose some do not want pictures taken. I learned to ask.
I stayed with the sky diver camp, it was pretty normal compared to alot of the camps. Alot of what I mentioned above was evident here.
I will say alot of the old timer Burners do not care for first time attendees to much. I was ready to go after a day and a half but my California buddy was coming so I stayed on rather than leave Tuesday night. I end up leaving before the burn about midnight on Friday. Had a lot of good times with my buddy glad I stayed but was real happy to go, looked forward to real world with showers, AC etc.
BM is a place to be yourself for a large population almost (41,000 Fri afternoon) many of those are citizens of BM and are into it, Tom H and I were more like spectators there were alot of those too.
BM is not for everyone. If you do not like it that is fine, I am not planning to return next year, but I would go back and I would be fine with never going back. 300 bucks is not alot if people pay 150 to go to Cirque De Sole this is way crazier and last a week vs 2 hrs. I got my moneys worth, I am now headed across the country left Vegas tonight.
While in Vegas I played at the Pool Sharks and Cue Club. Went to Southwest Cues and met Laurie nice lady. She showed us the process. Vegas food is not good, the pool was and I was as ready to leave there as I was to leave BM. I am looking fwd to Phoenix where I am tonight at my buddys apartment. Hope to play some tommorow, Scott Lee goave a lead on a few spots. Oh yeah the Hoover Dam is cool real cool and that was when the goverment new how to execute a project.
I will keep posting, if any one in Phoenix, Lubbock, Dallas, Galveston, Shreveport, Memphis, Nashville want to hit balls with Elvi post up or PM me. I hope to be home in 2 weeks or less I am having a good time but am missing the wife and kids.
First night after setting up tent went out to Playa the center of campl filled with over a 100 large scale art emplacements, lots and lots of art cars and thousands people many in a wide range of costomes. Think Mad Max on steriods. Booming music, glowing lights neon laser etc, vehicles with flame throwers. Nudity both topless and complete alongside people wearing tiger suits, body paint, furry boots and stilts. Little crazy to say the least. Long late night interesting in many ways.
We woke up next AM covered in dust, very rough conditions. First night we saw a lot that would be hard to explain much more than I could ever describe. Clothing optional is an understatement. Freedom is the big thing on the Playa people want to express themselves in there way.
As a group they are not open to the concept of GOD which offended me as I thought they were pretty close minded for all of their claimed open mindedness.
I was OK with the entire thing as an experience, most everybody I met was extremely kind and respectful of me and others. Sharing was evident, people wanted to be nice and be able to do their own thing.
Tons and tons of cool things. Lots to see, some things were not open to all including much of the lesbian community they definitly had alot of closed events. Some good music, alot of not so good music (techno I do not like techo).
Pictures I took alot of pictures, ask first most will pose some do not want pictures taken. I learned to ask.
I stayed with the sky diver camp, it was pretty normal compared to alot of the camps. Alot of what I mentioned above was evident here.
I will say alot of the old timer Burners do not care for first time attendees to much. I was ready to go after a day and a half but my California buddy was coming so I stayed on rather than leave Tuesday night. I end up leaving before the burn about midnight on Friday. Had a lot of good times with my buddy glad I stayed but was real happy to go, looked forward to real world with showers, AC etc.
BM is a place to be yourself for a large population almost (41,000 Fri afternoon) many of those are citizens of BM and are into it, Tom H and I were more like spectators there were alot of those too.
BM is not for everyone. If you do not like it that is fine, I am not planning to return next year, but I would go back and I would be fine with never going back. 300 bucks is not alot if people pay 150 to go to Cirque De Sole this is way crazier and last a week vs 2 hrs. I got my moneys worth, I am now headed across the country left Vegas tonight.
While in Vegas I played at the Pool Sharks and Cue Club. Went to Southwest Cues and met Laurie nice lady. She showed us the process. Vegas food is not good, the pool was and I was as ready to leave there as I was to leave BM. I am looking fwd to Phoenix where I am tonight at my buddys apartment. Hope to play some tommorow, Scott Lee goave a lead on a few spots. Oh yeah the Hoover Dam is cool real cool and that was when the goverment new how to execute a project.
I will keep posting, if any one in Phoenix, Lubbock, Dallas, Galveston, Shreveport, Memphis, Nashville want to hit balls with Elvi post up or PM me. I hope to be home in 2 weeks or less I am having a good time but am missing the wife and kids.
Dana...Glad you had a good time, and learned to experience something most of us will never have the opportunity (or possibly desire) to do! Have fun on the road, and drive safe!:grin: If you ever get up to ND, be sure to stop in to Fargo Billiards...the newest, and nicest poolroom, in the country!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I posted this last week.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1996742#post1996742
Let me know if the link doesn't work.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=1996742#post1996742
Let me know if the link doesn't work.
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WBM posted this in the 14.1 section
I was not out there preaching, just living, getting along, having a good visit, letting them be themselves. In my post I was just making a statement about what I percieved from there written material, talking to others and seeing what I saw. When I did mention my faith (happened a few times) I found other Christians, or in repsonse questions about what my neighbors thought about me being out there or was I not going to mention it to others back home etc. No unkind rresponses on an individual basis, my statement was about the group thought I percieved from BM as a group (very hippy like group BTW)
As the week progressed we had that exact conversation amongst our group about how this social paradigm is no different than any out in the straight owrld. Cliques were evident, pecking order was very established. We were at the bottom of the order since we were straight "virgin" visitors, there at BM as observers, participating in the same way as a first time dancer attending a large dance. Also, I ran into the situation of class and level constantly, I still had a good time, these were just things I noticed as the time went on.
We also mentioned how there were groups so very noticable amongst the chaos in the desert. The groups were distinct, the uniforms were quite consistent you just had to look. A fellow attendee in line broke it down like this, when you come out here you know your tribe and find them or they find you. The attendees formed up and established levels with leader bees and worker bees, this BM is just like any other society.
I am glad to have BM behind me, I enjoy a shower, AC and a store.
I am in Phoenix today, I got some PM's to reply to and will try to make it to a room prior to leaving in the AM. Stayed up late last night visiting my good buddy and old college roomate. Tom is out getting a massage, the road goes on and I am hitting balls pretty well however I have not ran even a 20 since leaving Indy. Hopefully I will open up a little bit. Also hope to see some cue makers in the next few days as well.
I was not out there preaching, just living, getting along, having a good visit, letting them be themselves. In my post I was just making a statement about what I percieved from there written material, talking to others and seeing what I saw. When I did mention my faith (happened a few times) I found other Christians, or in repsonse questions about what my neighbors thought about me being out there or was I not going to mention it to others back home etc. No unkind rresponses on an individual basis, my statement was about the group thought I percieved from BM as a group (very hippy like group BTW)
As the week progressed we had that exact conversation amongst our group about how this social paradigm is no different than any out in the straight owrld. Cliques were evident, pecking order was very established. We were at the bottom of the order since we were straight "virgin" visitors, there at BM as observers, participating in the same way as a first time dancer attending a large dance. Also, I ran into the situation of class and level constantly, I still had a good time, these were just things I noticed as the time went on.
We also mentioned how there were groups so very noticable amongst the chaos in the desert. The groups were distinct, the uniforms were quite consistent you just had to look. A fellow attendee in line broke it down like this, when you come out here you know your tribe and find them or they find you. The attendees formed up and established levels with leader bees and worker bees, this BM is just like any other society.
I am glad to have BM behind me, I enjoy a shower, AC and a store.
I am in Phoenix today, I got some PM's to reply to and will try to make it to a room prior to leaving in the AM. Stayed up late last night visiting my good buddy and old college roomate. Tom is out getting a massage, the road goes on and I am hitting balls pretty well however I have not ran even a 20 since leaving Indy. Hopefully I will open up a little bit. Also hope to see some cue makers in the next few days as well.
Man walks 7 to 10 feet into the bonfire, surrounded by embers and flames, and gets badly burned. Sues BM for negligience. California State Supreme court voted unanimously to deny his appeal to reinstate the case.
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Need to try to finish up my trip report on going to Burning Man. We left BM late on Friday night before the burn drove out and found our nearest hotel room over a 100 miles away. We got there in the middle of the night, 53.00 dollars well spent. We asked for extra towels and took a tremendous long shower we needed those towels. Tom got first dibbs (he drove last stint) We slept well AC is something else let me tell you. Woke up and drove the day away going from Fallon NV to Las Vegas. Got there early evening and hit the Cue Club, ate some mediocre chain food in a casino. Went back and hit balls at Cue Club till late. Stayed at a Motel 6 saw cops with lights on every where off the strip the whole night (bad part of town I guess). Got up moved to a Holiday Inn played pool at Pool Sharks met Thumbs (nce guy) saw Pots and Pans he steered us to eat at Arizona Charlies Steak and eggs 3.99 after last night we said why not. We went up there and it was Denny's type food but decent and not overpriced (Thanks Pots) Tom hit them for 140 on roultte he got out with a 100 so it was good meal. NExt day we went to Southwest (I have had a cue on order for a while so I wanted to see what the place is like) Thanks Mrs Laurie Franklin for asllwoing us to see where these great cues come from it was great. They are keeping the quality high and have some serious looking awesome wood. That was a great highlight for Vegas.
We left Vegas and went over the Hoover Dam on the way to Phoenix. Stayed at my old college roommate Todd, he plays golf a little if anybody is looking to play some in the big AZ. Next day we played a bit at Q n Brew. Slow new cloth, big pocklets, I could run out a bit there so it was a good time. That night I was going to go over to Kolbies but I end up hanging with my buddy, due to circumstances I was going to miss the start of the tourney so I decided to hang out instead I wish I had went to play later. I know Scott Frost was there that night and the place looked happend on the stream so my loss. NExt day we decide to go to Lubbocxk TX. We decide Grand Canyon is too far out of the way but want to see some stuff so we go east out of Phoenix using the scenic route beautiful country it was cool but very slow. We thought it was a 1 day trip but we were wrong, went through some awesome country including a good sized canyon with some serious switchbacks, brakes were smoking serious (old van so we took a few breaks through the valley. Ate some good mexican saw a great Land Rover for sale Petrified forest and tee pees. Great drive hit balls that night in Albequeque NM at the Billiard Palace, Nice room, I played a little bad would like to play there again. Left early the next day going to Lubbock.
Got to Lubbock my Dad has a joint called Jakes cold bear pretty good food. We visited for 3 days. They welcomed us with our names on the marquee that was cool. Still ate out our meals but we ate OK. Cleaned out the van got rid of most desert dust. Good times in a couple of rooms Fast Eddies days one Fox and Hound second night. They did not appear to have much action in either joint. Fast Eddies has better walls, tables seemed like home tables mostly we played on far right corner on one of three tournament style tables. Pockets were cut a little wierd, table was pretty clean standard Aramith balls. Fox and Hound had some well used Diamond tables close to window and lighting that could be a little better. Do not get me wrong we played and had a good time but this was our least pool room type of places on the entire trip.
What in Lubbock we went out Slaton (I think it was Slaton) and met Paul Sumrall his cues are called S&S First of all let me say we called him out of the blue and neither of us had never saw anyhting he made prior to this visit so we did not have super high expectations. First thing we see upon getting there is he makes some full splice veneered cues. Very nice workmanship nice solid hit. Real nice cue, he has us in his house first we hit a few o fhis cues, alot of cue for the money, I think I will be ordering a full splice in the near future myself. He told us about how he got started and how he learned from his Dad who had started the shop and built the first cues. This is where the name S+S comes from in memory of his Dad. We had a great visit and were very impressed prior to go out to the shop. He has a wide range of wood well cured and he also uses ivory. Mutiple pins and joints. Capable of doing just about anything in a simple but complete shop. I will try to post a picture of Paul at his lathe. We talked cues for a good long time. I messed with cues a bit along time ago and Tom is interested himself so we loved this visit. We found out Paul has an opinion on most any aspect of cuemaking and I say it is well deserved because before Paul made cues he played actual pool. He thinks knowing what he likes in acue allows him to know how he is doing. He made it pretty clear he made solid hitting cues for players. Just a wonderful afternoon listening, talking and learnign about the art that is cue making. Before we left Paul pit a Sniper tip on Tom's Mike Stacey cue. Paul is a great guy and if you want a solid hitting cue give him a call his number is (806) 778-1957 and I believe his cues are a great value. We left lubbock and headed out for Galveston.
We left Vegas and went over the Hoover Dam on the way to Phoenix. Stayed at my old college roommate Todd, he plays golf a little if anybody is looking to play some in the big AZ. Next day we played a bit at Q n Brew. Slow new cloth, big pocklets, I could run out a bit there so it was a good time. That night I was going to go over to Kolbies but I end up hanging with my buddy, due to circumstances I was going to miss the start of the tourney so I decided to hang out instead I wish I had went to play later. I know Scott Frost was there that night and the place looked happend on the stream so my loss. NExt day we decide to go to Lubbocxk TX. We decide Grand Canyon is too far out of the way but want to see some stuff so we go east out of Phoenix using the scenic route beautiful country it was cool but very slow. We thought it was a 1 day trip but we were wrong, went through some awesome country including a good sized canyon with some serious switchbacks, brakes were smoking serious (old van so we took a few breaks through the valley. Ate some good mexican saw a great Land Rover for sale Petrified forest and tee pees. Great drive hit balls that night in Albequeque NM at the Billiard Palace, Nice room, I played a little bad would like to play there again. Left early the next day going to Lubbock.
Got to Lubbock my Dad has a joint called Jakes cold bear pretty good food. We visited for 3 days. They welcomed us with our names on the marquee that was cool. Still ate out our meals but we ate OK. Cleaned out the van got rid of most desert dust. Good times in a couple of rooms Fast Eddies days one Fox and Hound second night. They did not appear to have much action in either joint. Fast Eddies has better walls, tables seemed like home tables mostly we played on far right corner on one of three tournament style tables. Pockets were cut a little wierd, table was pretty clean standard Aramith balls. Fox and Hound had some well used Diamond tables close to window and lighting that could be a little better. Do not get me wrong we played and had a good time but this was our least pool room type of places on the entire trip.
What in Lubbock we went out Slaton (I think it was Slaton) and met Paul Sumrall his cues are called S&S First of all let me say we called him out of the blue and neither of us had never saw anyhting he made prior to this visit so we did not have super high expectations. First thing we see upon getting there is he makes some full splice veneered cues. Very nice workmanship nice solid hit. Real nice cue, he has us in his house first we hit a few o fhis cues, alot of cue for the money, I think I will be ordering a full splice in the near future myself. He told us about how he got started and how he learned from his Dad who had started the shop and built the first cues. This is where the name S+S comes from in memory of his Dad. We had a great visit and were very impressed prior to go out to the shop. He has a wide range of wood well cured and he also uses ivory. Mutiple pins and joints. Capable of doing just about anything in a simple but complete shop. I will try to post a picture of Paul at his lathe. We talked cues for a good long time. I messed with cues a bit along time ago and Tom is interested himself so we loved this visit. We found out Paul has an opinion on most any aspect of cuemaking and I say it is well deserved because before Paul made cues he played actual pool. He thinks knowing what he likes in acue allows him to know how he is doing. He made it pretty clear he made solid hitting cues for players. Just a wonderful afternoon listening, talking and learnign about the art that is cue making. Before we left Paul pit a Sniper tip on Tom's Mike Stacey cue. Paul is a great guy and if you want a solid hitting cue give him a call his number is (806) 778-1957 and I believe his cues are a great value. We left lubbock and headed out for Galveston.