Busti talks about aiming
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Yea he talks about one basic shot. Hit it thick and use English to make it. Everyone should shoot that shot like that and just about every pro will shoot a game ball like that. Don’t know what you think this proves. Busti still pivots as evidenced in the video I posted in the other thread.
And the pivot has nothing to do with aiming.
He shows where the cue ball needs to be to pocket the ball with or without spin. He can tell if it's too thick or right without a cue.
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The most reliable way to cut a game ball in with spin is to aim center pocket and add just enough outside spin to eliminate throw altogether (gearing english). I think that's what "every pro" does.
The amount of spin that's "gearing" doesn't change with conditions - the amount of throw does.
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It sure does! Aiming with a pivot has to be aimed differently than straight on CP to CP or a fraction. But it can be even more accurate and consistent with someone who knows what they're doing like a Bustamante. Hal's aiming systems ALL had a pivot but with different ways of seeing and aligning the CB and OB for each of them. 90/90 was completely based around a very large pivot.
They would be at different places on the OB while aiming and at impact. Outside spin will produce "throw" which requires a different aim point than no spin.
TOO ?
Parica.told us over dinner Busti and Efren spin the rock too much.
Efren admitted to us he does.
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But that your opinion and not what the pro’s do
One thing nobody brings up is quality of stroke. Players that use lots of english tend to use a low deflection stroke. IOW they minimize deflection by "pinging" the ball further out from center rather than closer to center, which would require more force to generate equivalent spin and create more unrecoverable displacement. BHE lends itself very well to this low deflection stroke and can require further compensation when the ball is struck closer to center. There is of course a force variable at work but I couldn't work that into the previous sentence.
Name the pros that confide in you with all of their secrets.
What distances are you talking about between CB and OB as well as OB from pocket because it certainly doesn't hold true for everything. I think CJ Wiley would prefer a touch of inside. He's a pro and a damn good one. However, we all know he isn't you or knows what you do.
I asked you first. Come up with your own for instance scenarios.
You made the claim that “it certainly doesn't hold true for everything”. You want “for instance scenarios” of everything?
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pj <- making sense is overrated
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Ok. Do the spot to middle diamond to side rail spin thing; first with max english to set the bench mark. Use a ping stroke or fade off the ball if you need to. Then try to get the same thing with less (closer to center) english while still going directly to the middle diamond. My guess is you'll run out of swerve before you get enough spin and probably won't get enough spin period.
Be careful PJ, using facts often doesn't sit well with the KoolAid drinkers that kneel at the CTE altar.
You're the one who said this: "
Patrick Johnson said:
The most reliable way to cut a game ball in with spin is to aim center pocket and add just enough outside spin to eliminate throw altogether (gearing english). I think that's what "every pro" does.
Why don't YOU make sense of your own claim and statement above? How close is the game ball to the pocket? How far is the CB separated from the OB? What is the ease or severity of the cut angle? Why would outside spin be needed at all if already aiming to center pocket? What method of aiming is being used to set up the CB to OB shot for center pocket? How straight and perfect is your stroke along with alignment to hit center pocket without spin? How is the outside spin being applied - parallel cue or angled (pivoted) cue?
What every pro does isn't YOU nor do you know what they're doing. Do your best to make some sense by answering the above. (You won't because you're clueless Patrick Johnson and reversing it with no answer is your game)
I can tell you where you can kneel. Wouldn't be the first time you were there.
Can you say that another way?
If you're talking about swerve's effect on the result ("net effective squirt"), it would help to say that sooner. Swerve is distinctly different from squirt.
Regarding spin and squirt only, farther from center = more.
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