Butt section, and maker

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poolgoddess

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Here's a two part question. How many ways, are there to make a butt section, with two
different kinds of wood, with a joint collar, and butt cap? You can keep it simple, such
as, screwed, glued, cored, or any combination. Is this the cue maker choice, or might
one be better than another? Next question, even though, that was my second. Why
does a cue, plain jane with one shaft, from say, Searing, go for 4000, where a cue from
any good maker, say Morris, go for 800 to a 1000? Is he really the best ever, or is his
method of building a cue, that different from anyone else? I asked Paul Dayton this same
question years ago. His answer was because you counldn't find them. I don't buy it.
I can't find a Hupmobile either, does that mean it's the best, and should cost an arm,
and a leg? Your answers should be interesting, and I thank you.
 
poolgoddess said:
Here's a two part question. How many ways, are there to make a butt section, with two
different kinds of wood, with a joint collar, and butt cap? You can keep it simple, such
as, screwed, glued, cored, or any combination. Is this the cue maker choice, or might
one be better than another? Next question, even though, that was my second. Why
does a cue, plain jane with one shaft, from say, Searing, go for 4000, where a cue from
any good maker, say Morris, go for 800 to a 1000? Is he really the best ever, or is his
method of building a cue, that different from anyone else? I asked Paul Dayton this same
question years ago. His answer was because you counldn't find them. I don't buy it.
I can't find a Hupmobile either, does that mean it's the best, and should cost an arm,
and a leg? Your answers should be interesting, and I thank you.
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I'll dress the second question... Supply and demand. Dennis's work is at the very least on par with anyone in the world and most people who know what they're looking at and makers who know his methods and have examined his work think he's at the top of the heap. Like Paul Dayton said, you just can't find them. No supply and high demand.. Paul was right. He just didn't explain...

Just an FYI, a "plain jane" with one shaft directly from Dennis is not $4000....

Good rolls to ya.
 
There's no "best" way to put a cue together. Either it is constructed solid or it is not. IMO, the woods chosen and the way they are arranged dictate hit more so than construction method.

As for Dennis' cues selling for high dollar, it's because players like them and are willing to spend that much to get one. I have known him for quite a while & never have I once seen him advertise, hype himself, compare his cues to any other, say anything derogatory about any person or their cues, or anything else aside from being a humble gentleman. He's genuinely just a good dude. I'm happy as a two peckered puppy that he is successful and his cues are popular. He deserves it.
 
I play with a Searing Shaft on a Runde butt. Previously I felt like it was blasphemous, but it is the best hitting cue to me that I have ever played with. I have two Searing shafts and one plays better to my taste than the other. Just try every cue you can and when you find the right one, buy it off the guy who probably doesn't like it as much as you anyway. lol
 
Bravo

qbilder said:
There's no "best" way to put a cue together. Either it is constructed solid or it is not. IMO, the woods chosen and the way they are arranged dictate hit more so than construction method.

As for Dennis' cues selling for high dollar, it's because players like them and are willing to spend that much to get one. I have known him for quite a while & never have I once seen him advertise, hype himself, compare his cues to any other, say anything derogatory about any person or their cues, or anything else aside from being a humble gentleman. He's genuinely just a good dude. I'm happy as a two peckered puppy that he is successful and his cues are popular. He deserves it.
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Sounds alot like the guy who posted the above. Good guy, doesn't speak down of others and you never hear anything less than praise for him personally and his cues. I do not have a Sugartree Cue, but in the times I have communicated with Eric he has been nothing but a great guy. You deserve it too.
 
If you know the variables, you can do the permutations. I, for one, am just too lazy to do it for you.

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I am long time friends with Danny Tibbitts. He started building cues a couple of years before I did and we lived in the same town. At one time John Wright was promoting Danny as being one of the best in the world. His v groove point work and hand done inlay work was way above many other top cuemakers from that time. Within a few years he went from his cues selling for a few hundred to selling for a few thousand dollars for a four point cue with veneers and a little inlay work. I asked him why his cues had started bringing that type of dollars and he simply said, "There are people out there willing to pay big dollars for really clean work."

So Danny being the artist he is decided to focus on tiny details that set his cues above other cues in attention to details. For instance he started putting a phenolic ring inside a piloted Ivory joint. He turned his forearms to the pin with points in so his points would turn out perfectly even without touch ups. His stainless was polished to perfection as was his finish. He used to sit and hand polish his finish while watching TV. His piloted joints fit super concentric and snug.

Now move on to Dennis Searing. He does super sharp tiny inlays that amaze people at how thin and sharp they are. He even polishes the inside of his stainless joints. He is very meticulous on every part being put together with high precision.

Take the late Fanelli and some of his point work leaves even experienced cuemakers looking at it trying to figure out how he glued it all up to make it look that way.

Look at Samsara and you have the same thing in their handle and butt sleeve area.

Then there is Thomas Wayne and many of his designs look impossible to build and he pushed inlay work to levels only dreamed of before.

At last is South West who does not make fancy cues, but developed a hit that people are willing to pay thousands of dollars for a fairly plain 4 or 6 point cue with veneers and wait years to get it.

So the answer is Yes these guys do things a notch above most of their peers. Does that notch really make their cues worth 3 to 4 times what other cuemakers cues bring. The market decides that and as Danny said, "There are people out there willing to pay big dollars for really clean work."
 
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